Talk:Marion Cotillard
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[edit] BAFTA
I've found something wrong here (I think) it's said "Cotillard, on February 10, 2008, became the first French actress to be awarded the BAFTA for Best Actress in a Leading Role." but Jeanne Moreau Won it in 1966 for "Viva Maria!" so Marion Cotillard is not the first French actress... —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.219.178.93 (talk) 23:34, 22 February 2008 (UTC)
- The comment needs to be qualified. Beginning in 1969, BAFTA combined two separate awards - Best British Actress and Best Foreign Actress, and began to only award on Best Actress. Moreau won the Best Foreign Actress. I'll fix that. Wildhartlivie (talk) 07:54, 23 February 2008 (UTC)
I thought the word "legendary" was far too strong, so I removed it - Shaneo632 —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.140.115.88 (talk) 05:30, 25 February 2008 (UTC)
[edit] French Academy Award winners
Cotillard is the third French actress to win an Oscar for Best Actress. Claudette Colbert was French, although she became an American citizen later in her life (after her win in 1934). Please don't change this again. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.87.228.147 (talk) 18:14, 28 February 2008 (UTC)
Does this woman even exist? I've never heard of her before today, surely she is some media invention? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 165.228.178.108 (talk) 21:00, 2 March 2008 (UTC)
Marion Cotillard is the second French actress to win an Oscar for Best Actress. (Juliette Binoche received an Oscar for Supporting Actress). Colbert grew up in New York City as small child, although French descent. She was naturalized in the US for school days. Please don't change the fact again. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Draftlock (talk • contribs) 02:15, 13 March 2008 (UTC)
Can you provide a reliable source for that statement? I'm almost sure Colbert became an American citizen in the late 30s/early 40s (just like Dietrich and Garbo). That would make her the first French Academy Award winner and Cotillard the third. 84.87.228.147 (talk) 15:19, 13 March 2008 (UTC)
Can you provide a reliable source for your statement? She immigrated to the US in 1906.[1]. Dietrich and Garbo were buried in Berlin, Germany and Stockholm, Sweden. Colbert was buried in Barbados. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Draftlock (talk • contribs) 20:02, 13 March 2008 (UTC)
[edit] 9/11 Comments
Why are we putting her PR spin on here? It's a fact that she made these comments; there's no need to downplay them with Cotillard's PR spinning. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 128.12.146.118 (talk) 21:57, 2 March 2008 (UTC)
- Well, as she is at the center of a controversy, it seems natural to give her side of the story, whatever one thinks of it. (IMHO, she had been smoking too much Pot) Wedineinheck (talk) 16:52, 3 March 2008 (UTC)
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- Much better as it is now - it gives her side, but doesn't make the controversial comments sound made-up like they did in prior articles. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 128.12.146.118 (talk) 17:09, 3 March 2008 (UTC)
- The interviews at Paris Dernière are often, as stated in the article, highly "informal", i.e., there is usually a lot of crap talking. Looks like our information age doesn't allow celebrities to say too much stupid things any more... Wedineinheck (talk) 17:20, 3 March 2008 (UTC)
- Much better as it is now - it gives her side, but doesn't make the controversial comments sound made-up like they did in prior articles. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 128.12.146.118 (talk) 17:09, 3 March 2008 (UTC)
Apparently, an user feels the need of vandalizing this page by erasing the info about the controversy. Sorry, but as it is a very public information and since Marion Cotillard's POW is included, I don't see why it should be censored. Wedineinheck (talk) 16:24, 4 March 2008 (UTC)
(Ooops I guess I should've added my comments here instead of creating another discussion, blame it on me being new :\ The current "apology/retraction" section of this wikipedia entry seems grossly inaccurate as apparently several major news sources claimed that the actress had apologized and retracted her original statements, cleverly editing quotes from both herself and her lawyer. The full quotations however, appearing in other news sources, show that she has not retracted her statements and has not apologized.
This section certainly needs to be revised to include the discrepancies made by mainstream media printing inaccurate stories of her retraction, the accurate coverage of her refusing to retract the statements, the vastness of the public debate and controversy regarding her refusal (and the original comments), and (of course) the actual facts about her standing by her original views.
A simple google search for "Marion Cotillard apology for 9/11 comments" will dredge up piles of data refuting the current "Controversy" section information. Thanks Pr0t0wiki (talk) 17:57, 12 March 2008 (UTC)
[edit] Introduction
Is writing "Marion Cotillard is an Academy Award, BAFTA, two-time César Award, Czech Lion, and Golden Globe winning actress." necessary? It reads horribly and "academy award winning" is enough, is the most important award, the others don't need any mention. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 200.6.224.254 (talk) 02:39, 6 March 2008 (UTC)
I agree on that. Neither is it necessary to mention she is the only actress to win an Oscar for a French-speaking part. That's nice trivia but it does not belong in the introduction. 84.87.228.147 (talk) 16:50, 6 March 2008 (UTC)
Oscars are awards among others. They are given by the members of an American Academy. As far as I know, their choice doesn't involve the rest of the world. When an actor/actress gets US's Oscar AND UK's Bafta AND French César AND elsewhere's so on awards... it gives another dimension to his/her international acknowledgment as an actor/actress. DanDx (talk) 15:58, 8 March 2008 (UTC) DanDx
- They should all be mentioned of course, but not all in the first sentence. In their own place further down. Now, I don't know for sure, but I think the Oscar is the most notable of the awards, so it should be the one mentioned in the opening sentence. — NRen2k5(TALK), 11:58, 9 March 2008 (UTC)
I'd leave it at "highly-acclaimed actress" or "award-winning actress". --Adoniscik (talk) 19:33, 10 March 2008 (UTC)
This is a duplicate discussion topic and should be removed.
[edit] Biased Comment?
To be respectful and brief, under the "Career" section is a bullet preceding these words: "One fact is for certain, with Marion Cotillard having won the Academy Award for Best Actress on Febraury 24th, 2008, her entire career has changed irrevocably and she is destined to become a legend, as Simone Signoret is, in France because of it."
To me, this comment is not only unfounded but very subjective. Second-guessing myself, but should this be removed or not? I only wanted to bring it to light, not cause controversy.71.168.46.16 (talk) 05:50, 16 March 2008 (UTC)