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[edit] Article title

this Marine Ecology or Marine Biology. Not sure what would be more appropriate.? Any thoughts? sunja 02:14, 21 Apr 2004 (UTC)

  • deffinitely Biology because Ecology is based more on orgainisms interacting with their environment and biology is about everything living. ==

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[edit] Clownfish? Is it a joke?

Of all the fish species in the world, why selecting clownfish? This is about Marine biology and should be more generic, not simply reflecting personal interests. Don't you agree? --Arnejohs 18:48, 12 May 2004 (UTC)

- Yes this was very inapproriate, i suspect a joke. More info on fishes is needed though. - sunja 11:02, 17 May 2004 (UTC)

[edit] Famous marine biologists

How about famous marine Biologists?! Would be nice to note a few. And i don't like that fish page link where it is. ;/ sunja 04:33, 18 Dec 2004 (UTC)

Added the famous marine biologists. Don't think i gots them all. The sites for the list of biologists doesn't mentions which biologists is an marine biologist.

Shreshth91 21:00 29 Jun

Read the list of biologists again. It mentions quite a few.
Jakob Johan Adolf Appellöf (1857-1921), Swedish marine zoologist.
Joseph Ayers, marine neurophysiologist and biomimetic researcher
Samuel Stillman Berry (1887-1984), U.S. marine zoologist
Carl Chun (1852-1914), German marine biologist
Jacques Cousteau (1910-1997), French marine biologist and explorer
Anton Dohrn (1840-1909), German marine biologist
Sylvia Earle (1935), American oceanographer
Bruno Hofer (1861-1916), German fisheries scientist
William Elford Leach (1790-1836) English zoologist and marine biologist
Nicholai Miklukho-Maklai (1846-1888), Russian marine biologist and anthropologist
John Murray (1841-1914) Scots-Canadian Marine Biologist
Harald Rosenthal (1937) German hydrobiologist known for his work in fish farming and ecology
Georg Sars (1837-1927) Norwegian marine biologist
Ruth Turner (1915-2000), marine biologist
Charles Wyville Thompson, (1832-1882) Scottish marine biologist
It's probably not an exhaustive collection but it's a start. Are there others in the 'list of biologists' who you think should be designated as marine biologists? David D. 29 June 2005 18:32 (UTC)

[edit] Picture caption?

"This is how marine life is"? Is that the best caption we can find? Not to mention I doubt that's REALLY how marine life is.

Hayleigh Alexis

[edit] Fish in the Challenger Deep?

From the Wiki: "flounder (family Soleidae) fish and shrimp were seen by the American crew of the bathyscaphe Trieste when it dove to the bottom in 1960.". In 'Mapping The Deep. The Extraordinary Story of Ocean Science' (2000) suggests that the crew of the Trieste, neither of whom were biologists, could have mis-identified a Holothurian (sea cucumber) - a group that are common in the deep. --Liam Mason 12:09, 2 June 2006 (UTC) 02:58, 29 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] 0.02 micrometer?

Plankton cannot possible be that smal - the smallest known cells are 0.2 um acrosss; 0.02 um would be two small to holds a genome. Somebodys fix it! Capybara 20:20, 29 May 2006 (UTC)

--The definition of Femtoplankton is any plankton between 0.02um and 0.2um. This is because bacteria and viruses are also defined as plankton. --Liam Mason 12:13, 2 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] deletion

I deleted * Rosie Alling (1992- )- Marine researcher and atmospheric-oceanic journalist* from Famous Marine Biologists. I believe this is a little girl posting her name on Wikipedia.

[edit] Reorganize Lifeforms section?

The Lifeforms section is currently broken into: Microscopic life, Plant life, Other marine invertebrates, Fish, and Marine mammals. That seems cumbersome... There is a great deal of overlap between microscopic life and invertebrates (plus zooplankton are currently described under microscopic??) and between microscopic life and algae. The plants section is (or should be) mostly about algae, so why call it "plant life?" And overall, invertebrates make up most of the animal life on the planet, but seem to get very relatively short mention here. Anyone have a better idea for dividing these? Also, under Fish, what does this sentence mean? "Fishes inhabit the largest (by volume) biome on Earth." Isn't that just saying fish inhabit the ocean? I don't get it. — Epastore 20:19, 14 September 2006 (UTC)

  • Well i agree article could use some more restructuring and specifiying... - Algae are plants in the broader spectrum of things, and are commonly considered such by peoples. - The sentence you ask about says basically, 'the ocean is the biggest single type of habitat on earth, and fish are the main lifeform there'... :) sunja


[edit] New picture for overview ?

I do not like the new picture for the overview, I think the Lionfish was more dramatic. First, the thumbnail of the new picture is not very clear (the picture itself is OK). Second, it comes from an aquarium and it should be better to only put "real" marine life there...--Daniel Vaulot 07:46, 7 October 2006 (UTC)

- I don't see how the picture has "more drama" than that of the Lionfish. Surely better pictures out there. --Liam Mason 16:05, 7 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Plant / Animal Distinction Page?

does this exist at the moment? there is no coherent page specifically explaining distinctions between plants and animals Charlieb63 14:55, 3 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Does "Aquatic Biology" no longer exist?

I noticed that the more general subject "aquatic biology" is not found here. This, of course, covers the gamut of "marine", "freshwater", and the continuum in between (like estuarine). Being a former biologist (marine mostly, I guess) and practitioner in the area, I noticed in my son's high school tour yesterday that they go from environmental science -> biology -> "marine" biology. When asked about field work, the teacher pointed out how hard it was for the students to make it out to full day field trips to the coast (nearby, actually). Then when walking out and explaining to my son that they should teach "aquatic biology", not "marine biology", I passed over a bridge above a flowing, freshwater stream, remembering my days at UCSB field ecology lab setting up little experiments in the streams above Santa Barbara. Alas, the marketers have gotten ahold of biology too. ;-). Interesting fun facts sheet on FW from Canada, BTW: http://www.ec.gc.ca/WATER/en/info/facts/e_quantity.htm. ~~extremetray~~ —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Extremetray (talk • contribs) 06:44, 5 December 2006 (UTC).

  • yeaa i think there needs to be a fresh-water biology page... care to start it? ;) sunja 09:49, 28 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Birds

This is a spillover from a can of worms I opened up on the Seabirds page. I pointed out the inconsistency between the first line of that page and the first line of this page - They say seabirds are adapted to live in a marine environment (with "marine" pointing here). Here, it says (paraphrasing) marine biology is the study of life in the ocean. Looking down further in this article, I see it mentions birds. I don't know whether it's this article or "seabirds" that needs fixing - does marine biology study birds? Do birds live "in the ocean"? Some birds are close - penguins, auks, etc. But most (seagulls, albatross, terns, etc.) don't spend the majority of time "in" the ocean. The problem I see is that someone clicking on "marine" in the seabird page comes here, sees the pic of a school of fish, reads that this article is about creatures that live in the ocean, and thinks that "seabird" refers only to birds that spend the majority of their time swimming underwater. Ideas? Applejuicefool 14:47, 5 February 2007 (UTC)

I am a marine bio major, and marine biology is the study of the ocean and things that live in it. Sea Birds is a completely different study. Even being seabirds, it's still considered Ornithology. With seabirds, they still live on land since they don't have gills (not to say all marine organisms have gills because they don't), and are just adapted to live by or on the ocean/water. Then again marine mammals are also considered under marine biology, but most of them live under or in the water all the time. Darthgriz98 14:54, 5 February 2007 (UTC)
Ok. I changed the link on Seabirds from marine biology to marine (ocean). I think it makes more sense that way. There is a link from marine (ocean) to marine biology. Applejuicefool 17:32, 5 February 2007 (UTC)
But that also begs the question, if what you say is true, Darth, why does this page have the section on birds? What about penguins and auks? Wouldn't they be in the same boat (no pun) as marine mammals? Applejuicefool 17:35, 5 February 2007 (UTC)
That's what I've been looking up, I've been going through Google to try and see if they are included at all under marine biology or if they are under a different field. Technically, marine biology itself is the study of salt water organisms. I'll keep looking up sources though. Darthgriz98 17:41, 5 February 2007 (UTC)
I've got a UK Master's degree in Marine Biology - seabirds, marine mammals and reptiles were all covered at one stage or another in the course. They are also covered in a few Marine Biology textbooks including "Introduction to Marine Biology" by George Karleskint.--Liam Mason 07:38, 23 February 2007 (UTC)
I'm the one who added birds and reptiles, and I don't have a degree in Marine Biology. Did I get the reptiles right? And the statement about amphibians? — Epastore 18:47, 24 February 2007 (UTC)
Seabirds definitely belong here; the movement of productivity from marine photosynthesis is probably the most visible biological process in the marine environment (ever visited an estuary when birds are feeding?). Next point, you dont have to be able to swim to be adapted to the marine environment, waders are extremely well adapted without swimming ability (this also applies to other marine organisms). I think some of the problems highlighted in this seabird discussion, stem from some more fundamental problems with the article. I have had a quick read just now (first time I have read the article) and can see quite a few confusing statements (some of which dont actually make any sense). I will try to clean some up when time permits. Celticbattlepants (talk) 00:16, 15 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] References

Suggest references be given Osborne 12:13, 13 February 2007 (UTC)

  • i just thought u all should know there is a lot more info on marine biology. u just need to know where to find it. i recommend u go to a ecotarium, or a place that helps or studies marine life.
                    yours truly,
                         Prof. Alisha

[edit] dophins

--204.100.182.77 20:25, 17 May 2007 (UTC) did you know that dolphins are actually toothed whales? They are! Believe me. When I went to a whale festival they told me that. It is really quite interesting I thought. marine biologyBold text


Rilee Simpson Murrieta, California age 14

  • sigh* your 14 and you believed them? Thats pretty sad...Dolphina and Whales are completely seperate, and most easily distinguished. Better smarten up, high school is just around the corner.


[edit] Originally posted by User:71.83.49.141.

Im Doing a Project on Marine biology and if anyone has any information on the subject like salary and job description i would be great if you could post it down here!!! Thanks —Preceding unsigned comment added by Lazylaces (talk • contribs) 22:13, 14 September 2007 (UTC)