Talk:Marie-Thérèse de Bourbon-Condé

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people; i need your views: i created this article as she was the titular queen of poland in 1697 but i dont know if it would look a bit pretentious to have that in her titles section!! what should i do ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?

Tbharding (talk) 23:00, 4 June 2008 (UTC)

as i said thats the reason i made it; i added it. will do the same for her husband later ! ! ! ! Tbharding (talk) 23:09, 4 June 2008 (UTC)

Please add proper citations (i.e. including edition, pages, etc so that accuracy can be verified, otherwise this and other under-documented info is subject to deletion. Thank you. FactStraight (talk) 05:00, 6 June 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Redundant & trivial content

A lot of unsourced edits are being uploaded rapidly to articles on French royalty. Some appear dubious, others wrong. Yet requests for reputable citations are ignored, deleted, or inadequately sourced (page numbers in books are essential to verify if the citation is accurate) -- while the wholesale editing continues. Please respond to these requests, either with reputable sources or more careful edits, before adding additional unsourced material. Also, much of the added material is redundant, excessive, or trivial. I've already recorded repeated objections to 1. unsourced allegations (e.g. that seem unprecedented, unlikely, or undocumentable) are apt to be deleted unless precisely sourced 2. redundancies (if it's in a box on the page, it's apt to be deleted from the text): 3. excess (details which belong in another person's article [e.g. parent, spouse, child], or which describe hard-to-verify details [e.g. "She felt envious": unless it's an attributed quote from a diary or correspondence -- how is it possible to know what someone who died hundreds of years ago "felt" or "thought"? Let's stick to what they verifiably said or did]), 4. gallicization (names and titles when combined, OK [but members of dynasties that ruled outside France -- Lorraine, Savoy, Modena, Bouillon, Monaco, etc -- shouldn't be gallicized, except for cadets born into a branch naturalised in France]; well-known phrases, yes; untranslatable terms, maybe; just for the sake of a more "French" sound or "feel" to the article -- not usually, and subject to deletion). Other editors will, of course, have their own views. Please don't use sockpuppets. I look forward to better mutual cooperation -- and better Wiki articles. Thanks. FactStraight (talk) 05:00, 6 June 2008 (UTC)