Talk:Marche

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[edit] Pronounciation?

mahr-KEH or mahr-SHEH? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 192.55.52.3 (talk) 23:26, 10 January 2008 (UTC)

In italian, it sounds like "marquee" without the final accent. --Cantalamessa (talk) 14:05, 11 January 2008 (UTC)

"marquee" is a bit confusing as its final syllable is the sound of "key" whereas in "marche" it should be the sound of "kay" as in first syllable of the word "cane". Accent is also on first syllable of "marche", not last syllable as in "marquee". —Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.60.135.1 (talk) 15:23, 23 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Marche and Marca

Marche is a prural noun in italian because the name refers to the several Marche (a border territory of the Holy Roman Empire ruled by a Marchese) i the region not only to the Marca Anconitana or Marca di Ancona. --Brandoale 09:34, 27 December 2005 (UTC)

[edit] External link

I removed ItalianVisits.com since, as can be seen, it's a small and very inferior site: a single unfinished page with 4 small uncaptioned photos and 4 links, the purpose of which is to draw people to "I.V. Tours".

I replaced it by a selection of the best sites available. The five provinces maintain excellent sites as well, with at least some pages in English; and there are several dozen small sites in English much better than the above. I didn't add my own site because not sufficiently broad — although it has 28 pages of text and 59 large photos, and is thus considerably better than the spam I removed. Bill 09:42, 21 July 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Rebuttal to Bill Thayer

Bill, I am the "someone" who added links to ItalianVisits.com on the various Italian Regional sites - and I don't think I was commiting "link spam" or engaged in vandalism when I did so. ItalianVisits.com is a serious endeavour being undertaken by my daughter, Jesse Andrews, who for the past 2 years has been living in Praia A Mare, in the northwest region of Calabria. My other daughter, Arianna, is attending university at the University for Foreigners in Perugia, and also contributes to the ItalianVisits website when she can.

If you look at the section on Calabria, you will see how much work and effort has been put into cataloguing towns and villages that are virtually unknown to English-speaking people, whether they are travelers or tourists, or people who have a curiousity about the area. You will note, I hope, the abundance of wonderful photographs that compliment the text, and present our viewers with images that otherwise would not be available. Incidentally, you should also note the link to Wikipedia resources whereever and whenever there is material on Wikidpedia about a region, town or other locale. We are as committed to Wikipedia as you are.

Jesse has created a vessel into which more information is being added every day. I just spent 15 days in Umbria, for instance, and added pages for Perugia, Assisi, Spello, Bevagna, Gubbio and the Regional Park at Colfiorito. Other contributors, like Katherine Lavallee, have added information about other towns in Tuscany. Such contributions are solicited eagerly so that we can fatten the content on the site.

ItalianVisits.com is hardly a come-on for selling tour packages, although we are trying to attract people to "unknown" parts of Italy, and in so doing, get some business to those out of the way places for local restauranteurs, hoteliers, and others in the travel business. If you are aware of what is going on in Italy now, you will understand that the economy is depressed, owing largely to various difficulties it has and is facing as it tries to integrate with the EU, and as it attempts to compete in a global economy. So, having information for travelers can not be the sine qua non of "link spam". If you look at all the external links listed in the Umbria section of Wikipedia, a number of them are active promoters of travel to the Region. Even in the various regional sections of Italy where you posted identical comments to the comments you made here there are links to sites that promote and facilitate travel. Should all of these be removed? And if so, by whom and under what (hopefully) reasonably well-defined policy?

You can coin or use phrases like "link spam", and "cyber vandalism", or other terms of denigration, but I think you, and others who "worry" about Wikipedia, should be careful not to sit on Wikipedia with a holier than thou attitude, deleting other people's contributions, unless a more thorough investigation is done into the content, and sometimes into the motives and objectives of their creators. Many people spend a lot of time, money and energy trying to do good without much reward beyond the satisfactions it provides. This effort to "do good" is manifest on your site Bill, at least, so far as I can see, and I commend you for it.

I'm a bit more than a little chagrined about what you have done Bill, and about how you have characterized ItalianVisits, but I hope we can discuss this if you think I am making an untenable argument in favour of allowing us to post links to the IV website, without fear of having them removed by the over-zealous.

Regards Vian Andrews Vancouver, BC July 28, 2005

[edit] Northern Italy?

Why Marche is considered a region in Northen Italy? As far as I know, together with Tuscany, Lazio, Umbria and Abruzzo, it is part of Central Italy. --Cantalamessa 23:00, 23 May 2006 (UTC)

Bravo, amico — now why didn't you make the change? I've been watching this "error" (a piece of vandalism introduced in Dec 04) to see how long it would take to be caught. Qui, si canta spesso non la messa, ma il truffo.... Bill 00:03, 24 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Merged content from Foglia

Kville105125 01:12, 15 October 2007 (UTC) Merged content to this page to eliminate a stub, and expand this page.