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March 4: Saint Casimir's Day

1461 – Wars of the Roses in England: Lancastrian King Henry VI (pictured) was deposed by his Yorkist cousin, who then became King Edward IV.
1681 – King Charles II of England granted Quaker William Penn a charter for the Pennsylvania Colony.
1769 – French astronomer Charles Messier first noted the Orion Nebula, a bright nebula visible to the naked eye in the night sky situated south of Orion's Belt, later cataloguing it as Messier 42 in his List of Messier objects.
1849 – According to urban legend, President pro tempore of the U.S. Senate David Rice Atchison became the de jure U.S. President for one day after Zachary Taylor refused to be sworn into office on a Sunday when his predecessor James Polk's term expired.
1980 – Robert Mugabe of the Zimbabwe African National Union was elected to head the first government in Zimbabwe.

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Orion Nebula reference: [1] Rklawton 02:33, 22 February 2006 (UTC)

1 Discrepancies
2 Significance
3 A Study in Scarlet
4 Misplaced information?
5 Trivia
6 Only complete sentence?
7 World Wide Web
8 pov?
9 Just a fun fact
10 Brett Favre

[edit] Discrepancies

Billy Gibbons is listed as having been born on March 4, 1950, however the article on Billy Gibbons says that he was born December 16, 1949. Which is it?

I checked with Google. Both dates are given, and some websites mention that both dates are given. It's possible that other sites are using Wikipedia as their sorce. We're going to have to go back to the original documents (or at least to something that pre-dates Wikipedia) to sort this one out. Rklawton 18:59, 22 February 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Significance

Shouldn't a person or event have an article first in order to be listed here? If it doesn't rate an article, why would it rate listing here? Rklawton 16:16, 23 February 2006 (UTC)

[edit] A Study in Scarlet

What does it mean that "A Study in Scarlet, the first Sherlock Holmes story, begins"? Does it mean the fictional plot begins on March 4, 1881 (i.e. Dr. Watson met Sherlock Holmes on this day)? Should it then be considered an event worth included here?

According to the book's article, it was writtin in 1888. Therefore, one might concluce that this is a fictional date within the book. In some date articles, there exists a "fictional date" section (or to that effect). This entry, if verified, would belong in such a section. Rklawton 15:37, 4 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Misplaced information?

Re:

From 1789, this was Inauguration Day, the day on which the President of the United States was sworn in and took office. Originally held every four years on March 4, the ratification of the Twentieth Amendment to the United States Constitution changed the time for the President and Vice President's terms to begin to noon on January 20, beginning with Franklin Roosevelt's second term in 1937.

It would seem that this information belongs under events rather than in the first section that defines the date. That is, American politics have little to do with defining and describing the date itself. Most date articles keep this section simple. Articles with more detained information in this section include information regarding the date and the calendar (for example, January 1) rather than an obscure political event. Comments? Rklawton 04:12, 23 March 2006 (UTC)

Removed with no comment. Rklawton 01:44, 29 March 2006 (UTC)

Inauguration Day (1789 - 1933) was added to the Holidays and Observances section several days ago. Acumen76 00:44, 30 March 2006

[edit] Trivia

Unlike the majority of date articles, this one seems to be riddled with useless trivia. Rather than trying to thin it out, I think we should start a discussion in the date article project page to sort out what constitutes notability. Rklawton 01:44, 29 March 2006 (UTC)

The "useless trivia", as you so put it, since it was added by myself has now been removed. Events that have related articles to substantiate them have been kept as are those pieces of information that were present on this page originally. Acumen76 00:49, 30 March 2006

Please keep in mind that there is a significant difference between date articles and date/year articles. A date/year article will contain all sorts of information specific to that day in history. However, date articles should only contains events that we'll want to remember years hence. These events mark milestones in various, significant, human endeavors. Rklawton 18:28, 26 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Only complete sentence?

Can't I tell someone to "March first," or "March twenty-second" for that matter? 69.201.182.203 05:37, 23 October 2006 (UTC)

    Crap. Broooooooce (talk) 11:38, 16 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] World Wide Web

The World Wide Web article indicates that it went online in August 1991. I think this discrepancy needs to be cleared up. Hu 01:31, 30 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] pov?

" 1797 - In the first ever peaceful transfer of power between elected leaders in modern times, John Adams is sworn in as President of the United States, succeeding George Washington." Really? Says who? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 91.106.134.59 (talk) 23:41, 28 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Just a fun fact

Just thought I'd note that March 4 is the only day that is also a command in the English language (March Forth!). I'd have perhaps added this myself, but I'm really novice at this sort of thing and figured I'd just give it a shot here first, now how is it that I sign my name again? Broooooooce (talk) 08:33, 22 February 2008 (UTC) Hope that works ;)

Somebody has added this now. Great idea, but is it really true that it is sometimes celebrated as Progress Day? --The very model of a minor general (talk) 21:02, 5 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Brett Favre

The announcement of Brett Favre's retirement is not a globally notable event. There is no impactful significance to the event and it should not be listed here. -- Mufka ^(u) ^(t) ^(c) 20:32, 4 March 2008 (UTC)

I agree completely! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 192.91.171.42 (talk • contribs) 21:55, 4 March 2008

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