Talk:Marcel Dzama

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I am finding it impossible to log a complaint about the removal of my edits on Marcel Dzama's page. I am removing the commercial work he has done for him as he does not consider it a part of his artistic career. Why do they keep getting put back? There is no reason to advertise for record companies on his Wikipedia page and to include a few but not all is incorrect and unprofessional. Please respond to me here. Thank you and I trust that you will take this into valid consideration so I don't have to keep coming back here. I appreciate that you do not block my IP either. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Serviceinformation (talk • contribs)

I'm not sure what you mean by commercial work done "for him". In any case, if Dzama has done commercial work or lent out his images for commercial purposes, that is a part of his overall biography. Wikipedia isn't a public-relations vehicle for artists. In other words, we don't just choose and pick what to include based on what someone considers representational of their over-all work. I likewise fail to see how listing these commercial projects as being advertising for the record labels. As just a point of comparison, see Jeff Wall and Gerhard Richter, two artists whose images have been used by Sonic Youth (for the albums Daydream Nation and The Destroyed Room: B-sides and Rarities) and that type of information is usually listed. The ideal of Wikipedia is that there is a possibility to cross-reference between articles (i.e "wikilink"), so information about Jeff Wall would be listed in the Wall article, the Sonic Youth article and the article for the album in question, with links to all articles. If it's part of public record, then it is part of an artist's biography. If Dzama doesn't "consider it a part of his artistic career", that's beside the point, unless he's discussed it in print. Then we could mention that in that section. But otherwise, there seems to be consensus that the information be kept in. Usually when there's an edit conflict, it's taken to the talk page of that article and discussed until consensus is reached. You could bring this discussion to the Dzama talk page to see what others think, but you shouldn't just delete information. We try to maintain WP:BLP when dealing with biographies, but as this information isn't libelous, it shouldn't be removed if consensus has been reached. Thanks. freshacconcispeaktome 21:59, 21 May 2008 (UTC)

Many artist's biographies include this kind of commercial work. I don't see the problem.--Ethicoaestheticist (talk) 22:37, 21 May 2008 (UTC)