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From http://www.city-on-a-hill.com/2/about.asp:

"Marc Byrd, Co-Producer

Founding member of the modern rock band, Common Children, Marc Byrd began producing independent artists' albums in the mid-1990s-but over the past few years, his songwriting has made the most impact on the Christian music industry. Co-producer on both City on a Hill projects and co-writer of "God of Wonders," one of the most celebrated and honored songs of 2000, Byrd's work has been recorded by many artists including Amy Grant, Jaci Velasquez, Third Day, Caedmon's Call and Nichole Nordeman. Most recently, his song "Show Me Your Glory," recorded by Third Day, went No. 1 on the Adult Contemporary chart, arguably making him one of the most impressive modern worship songwriters today. In addition, Adore (a band featuring himself and his wife, Christine Glass) signed a recording deal with Squint Entertainment and look forward to releasing an album in the near future."

From http://www.ourgodofwonders.com/project.asp:

"... Our God of Wonders was produced by two-time Dove Award nominee for Producer of the Year, Steve Hindalong (The Choir, By The Tree, The Waiting, Common Children), Marc Byrd (Common Children, co-wrote “God of Wonders”) and Bob Wohler (Third Day, Caedmon’s Call, FFH). The trio, in addition to executive producer Robert Beeson, is also responsible for the first City On A Hill project and City On A Hill - Sing Alleluia."

From http://www.city-on-a-hill.com/3/about.aspx:

* Marc Byrd, producer

Nashville-based producer, two-time Dove Award nominee for Songwriter of the Year and session guitarist Marc Byrd may be best known as a co-writer (along with Hindalong) of the award-winning modern worship song “God of Wonders,” the astonishing opening track of City on a Hill-Songs of Worship and Praise. His songwriting star on the rise, popular acts like Third Day, Rebecca St. James, Amy Grant, Jaci Velasquez, Nichole Nordeman and ZoeGirl have recorded gems from Marc’s pen. Steve Hindalong characterizes Byrd’s songwriting as “the future of Christian music.” Before the City on a Hill series, Marc was a founding member, guitarist and vocalist of Common Children, a rock band with two acclaimed albums to its credit. When he’s not behind the console producing acts like SONICFLOOd, he partners with his wife, Christine Glass Byrd, in the pop duo GlassByrd. Previous, Marc served as co-producer of City on a Hill-Sing Alleluia and is credited for co-production on City on a Hill-Songs of Worship and Praise.

(here it is again, in bold, proof that he co-produced City on a Hill #1)Hizzyhutch 16:49, 22 December 2006 (UTC)

-- Previous unattributed claims by Hizzyhutch 6:31 22 December 2006 (UTC)

There are four City on a Hill projects and a fifth project that is only related by personnel, not by name. Yes, it's on the same web site, but that's likely out of economy and marketing rather than sharing the name. Hizzyhutch keeps crediting Marc with producing the first one, which Marc isn't credited for. That doesn't mean that he didn't help produce it, it's just that he isn't credited with producing it and as such we can't state that he produced it. If Hizzyhutch wants to show us a source that credits him as a producer for the project, the line can stand.
(he did, according to the first paragraph on this discussion page WHICH I COPIED AND PASTED DIRECTLY FROM THE CITY ON A HILL WEBSITE)Hizzyhutch 16:35, 22 December 2006 (UTC)
(I never made this claim)Hizzyhutch 16:35, 22 December 2006 (UTC)
I have removed your statement that he produced the first disc.
(I have added it back!)Hizzyhutch 16:35, 22 December 2006 (UTC)

I also added back the info box and categories that I added.

(thanks--I don't know how to do that)Hizzyhutch 16:35, 22 December 2006 (UTC)
I also removed some of your superlatives.
(whatever)Hizzyhutch 16:35, 22 December 2006 (UTC)
I also changed the format of the SonicFlood disc entries. --Walter Görlitz 16:01, 22 December 2006 (UTC)
(thanks again)Hizzyhutch 16:35, 22 December 2006 (UTC)
Just read the Beeson phrase. Not convinced that responsible means producer. Since the album and the album's about page don't credit him as producer, I think it over-rides that terse statement. --Walter Görlitz 16:04, 22 December 2006 (UTC)
(correct, this particular sentence doesn't specifically give him production credit, but it refers to his co-producing the album which is substantiated in myriad other places, which I've pointed out, INCLUDING THE SENTENCE IMMEIDATELY PRIOR TO THE BEESON PHRASE.)Hizzyhutch 16:51, 22 December 2006 (UTC)
I still don't get what the problem is. In the first paragraph (in bold) it states that he was a "co-producer on both City on a Hill projects". The chronology of this statement is in reference to "Songs of Praise and Worship" (project #1) and "Sing Alleluia" (project #2). "Our God of Wonders" is a City on a Hill project, which is stated on the official City on a Hill website, which I quoted right up above this paragraph. How much more thorough do I need to be? I did not say that "Our God of Wonders" shared the same prefix "City on a Hill: ...", I only mentioned it as City on a Hill PROJECT because it is on the official City on a Hill site; I infer from the site that "City on a Hill" not only refers to the works, but also to the core group of people producing the works. I'll admit that I'm a newbie and have some things to learn about editing wikipedia, but it simply makes me livid that the claims I've made (which I've quoted or copied directly from the most reputable source), can be called "unsubstantiated".

Hizzyhutch 16:40, 22 December 2006 (UTC)

The problem is that he isn't credited on the album or the project page. That could be an oversight. I concede that this paragraph gives him co-producer right. Sorry for the protracted debate. Based on the material at hand (the CD credits) I caused an edit war. Now all you have to do is find a picture of Marc that isn't published on the web site as it's copyrighted and the wiki admins are going to delete it in a few weeks. Thanks for all your hard work on the page. --Walter Görlitz 18:02, 22 December 2006 (UTC)
hi guys, i think that hizzy should calm down, i'm kind of new here too but i've read some of the posts and things--maybe i could be a mediator. hizzy if your a believer you should get it straight, brother because you sure fooled me. but walter maybe don't be so quick to point out the errors, maybe do a little more research because it looks like other than hizzy saying byrd was prominent and successful, he has been correct all along. also, i think if you look at byrd's track record (who is using his songs, who he's worked with, etc.) he does seem to be 'successful' in that regard, so we need to come to a consensus as to what defines 'success' or 'prominence'in this case. i've read up on byrd and i would say that it is easier to prove he is successful than it is to prove he isn't, which is why maybe hizzy kept saying it. peaceCirleoftwo 19:47, 22 December 2006 (UTC)