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[edit] Marc suffered a heart attack?

Is that information really correct in the Decline section? I've never heard that he had a heart attack in late 1974. Can anyone point to a source for this piece of information? --Medullaoblongata 00:28, 24 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Name Spelling

You spelt Marc's real name wrong, it's Mark Feld.

And I bet nobody has pointed that out before.

Alan--81.138.76.233 10:37, 23 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Mark Feld (July 30, 1947 – September 16, 1977)

He was born September 30, 1947!!!!

Bolan died on September 16th 1977, two weeks before his 30th birthday.

That doesn't make any sense.

It means that if he'd lived for another fortnight he'd have been 30. Do wake up at the back.Britmax 14:11, 12 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Bolan married Gloria Jones

according to http://members.cox.net/dregenold/marc/trex.html , Jones and Bolan married, although no mention is made of that in this article. -- Jon Dowland 14:35, 12 March 2006 (UTC)


Marc Bolan did not marry Gloria Jones - they were planning a wedding for early 1978 but at the time of his death, Bolan was still two weeks shy of finalising his divorce from June Child, from whom he had been separated since 1973. Rexbox, 28 March 2006

Two things of vague interest... first, in "Children of the Revolution" Bolan sings "I've got a Rolls Royce 'cause it's good for my voice" when if he'd been in his Roller and not the Mini he might still be with us. Secondly, just after Elvis died in August 1977 Marc apparently said "I hope I don't die in the next month or so because if I do no-one will remember me..." Britmax 19:12, 12 May 2006 (UTC)

I think we ought to have a list of erm... I honestly do not know how to put this... "Allusions to Marc Bolan's um... tragic death... in his erm... recordings and interviews". I bet there's been some interesting books written on the subject. Now if you'll scuse me, I'm gonna buy Electric Warrior and play it backwards. Yours sincerly, A. Curiousfan

[edit] What is a "Discretionary Trust"?

...and why should it prove such an intractable problem? (I am sure that there are other people besides me who simply do not know anything about it.) Hi There 12:47, 8 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Was Marc the first Anglo-Jewish musician to become internationally popular?

I know quite a few Jewish managers from Britain (eg. Arden and Epstein) were very successful, but was Marc the first British Jew to make it big in pop music itself? I'm not Jewish or nothing, I'm just A. Curiousfan. 17:25, 10 June 2006.


Come one! Get educated here: http://www.jewsrock.org/ Did you ever hear of Neil Diamond or Bob Dylan? -Brian marcbolan.net

Neither of which was British, as the question asked...
Peter Green was playing with John Mayall a bit earlier than Bolan's period of greatest success, however. --David Edgar 16:40, 19 June 2006 (UTC)

And Green was in Fleetwood Mac (albeit in the late 60s, before their international success)

Paul Kossoff of Free was Jewish. Or at least his Dad, David Kossoff, was Jewish. I don't know if Paul professed any faith.

Max Bygraves? Totnesmartin 12:45, 26 December 2006 (UTC)

Frankie Vaughan was definitely Jewish and he grew up in Leeds. Babykins229 22:02, 23 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Edits?

I'm deleting the part about Bowie influencing Marc's glam looks, because it's widely been documented to have been the other way around. I'm also tempted to delete the part about "Bolan" being a contraction of "Bob Dylan," since I have an interview somewhere with Marc explaining how "Bolan" came about (a combination of typos and marketing). However, I'd need to dig up that interview first.

I also deleted this part:

"*Contrary to popular belief, Bolan did not play guitar on David Bowie's followup to "Space Oddity", "The Prettiest Star". The guitarist was Tony Visconti, who produced both Bolan and Bowie."

Where is the proof for that? Teenagewildlife.com lists Bolan as the guitarist. There are multiple interviews by both Visconti and Bowie saying that Bolan played guitar on that single (documented in Nicholas Pegg's The Complete David Bowie) AND this site has a quote from Visconti saying marc played lead guitar:

http://easyweb.easynet.co.uk/~rthomas/rexdal/sessions.html

--MBanon

I noticed there was no mention of Bolans friendship with Jeff Lynne, he played guitar on a few tracks with E.L.O. check out On the Third Day and I heard once performed live with them in 1973.

[edit] Height

How tall was Marc, anyway? I've heard various sources report he was anywhere from 5'2" to 5'5". Could somebody please help me? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 88.107.191.174 (talk • contribs)

[edit] Book

Didn't he write a best-selling poem book? —Preceding unsigned comment added by XYZ CrVo (talkcontribs)


[edit] Genre

Bolan is absolutely glam rocker. But is that "proto metal" right? And when you press to that "proto metal" it goes straight to "heavy metal". T.Rex was not metal. Someone should fix that... —Preceding unsigned comment added by 80.223.231.53 (talkcontribs)

Yes, I don't see any explanation for the "proto metal" classification. While a link probably does exist, I think it's more misleading than helpful. I removed it. --David Edgar 12:10, 26 February 2007 (UTC)

Definitely even if T Rex were "metal" which they obviously weren't how could they be "proto" metal when fully fledged metal (Led Zeppelin, Black Sabbath, Deep Purple, Blue Cheer etc) had been around since 1968/69? when T(yrannosaurus) Rex were still messing around with bongos and acoustic guitars. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.140.22.122 (talk) 18:20, 10 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Ride a White Swan had no bass?

Then just what is the low register plucked instrument that plays along with Micky Finns Bongos? I believe it is played by Steve Currie, uncredited (who was also the third member of the duo as they were still being advertised). Even Visconti, who played bass on Bowies "Man Who Sold The World" lp, could have played it - although it isn't in his style. Listen to the record, and you will hear it! LessHeard vanU 22:14, 5 April 2007 (UTC) ps. Bolan did play the lead guitar on "Prettiest Star" on the Mercury single version. Ronson faithfully copied the same lines on the rerecorded version for the "Ziggy..." lp. pps. Bowies "Lady Stardust" partly references Bolan (whose image was sometimes backprojected when it was played in concert.)

The bass on RAWS is played by Marc Bolan. Fact confirmed by Tony Visconti. 195.152.219.3 11:34, 30 July 2007 (UTC) Rexbox

[edit] Bass on "Swan"

It's Tony Visconti who plays bass on Ride A White Swan, also on the T Rex album and some of the Tyrannosaurus Rex reocrding

No it's not. See above. 195.152.219.3 11:35, 30 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] External links

Could you add: http://www.cosmic-dancer1970s.piczo.com ? It's a great fanpage for Marc Bolan & T-Rex with pics & info plus discography and lyrics. Thanks

[edit] Moved here from article

"Bolan's music was a massive influence on punk rock and the 1990s Britpop movement. In fact, many acts claim, or are known, to have (allegedly) taken portions of T. Rex songs for use in "original" compositions. Notable examples include "Panic" by the Smiths (credited to Morrissey/Marr; core of the song is lifted from "Metal Guru"), "Me I Funk" by KMFDM takes the lyrics from "Telegram Sam" and "Cigarettes & Alcohol" by Oasis (credited to Noel Gallagher; plagiarizing "Get It On", to which Gallagher later admitted). Beyond punk and Britpop, British rock band Def Leppard, despite being known as a heavy metal outfit in their earliest days, claim to have been influenced more by T. Rex than any other act.

American acts of the late 1970s punk/New Wave genres, such as the Ramones ("The KKK Took My Baby Away" has a slightly similar guitar riff to "Laser Love"), have also cited Bolan's music as an influence. Punk group Radio Stars (ironically featuring John's Children vocalist Andy Ellison) recorded a cover of "Horrible Breath" on the B-side to their 1978 top 40 song "Nervous Wreck"."

If any of this is replaced in the article it would need to be referenced. --John 17:34, 12 September 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Bronze Bust Image

Ref the picture of Marc Bolan's Bronze bust in the article. The picture was taken by me yesterday (30th September 2007) and I will work to ensure that this licence is properly labelled. Britmax 20:09, 1 October 2007 (UTC)

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Right, so now, understanding that it has to be on the image's description page, I have put it there. Britmax 20:28, 1 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] That tree

Is it really necessary to give the precise Latin name to the tree he hit? It made me laugh, which I'm sure was not the intention. I think it should go as it's absurd. —Preceding unsigned comment added by MegdalePlace (talkcontribs) 08:07, 23 November 2007 (UTC)

Maybe the name could go somewhere but it does disturb the flow where it is. Britmax (talk) 20:30, 23 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Name pronuncation?

How is his last name pronounced? That would be helpful in the first sentence of the article. --24.31.187.238 (talk) 03:20, 14 February 2008 (UTC)