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Map is: 1) UNSOURCED 2) UNREFERENCED 3) WRONG - pls note:

a) In Bulgaria 1,000 people declared themselves to be Romanians in the last census (2001), whereas another 10,000, mostly in the regions of Varna, Shumen, Razgrad, Ruse declared to be Vlachs. The latter are actually the so called Vlach Jypsies who are not Romanians but Romany. Anyway, despite the fact that Romanians and Vlachs together constitute 0.1% of the population of Bulgaria, Romanians are depicted to inhabit half of Southern Dobruja, the whole of the Vidin region and significant pockets in northern Bulgaria. Despite the fact that a total of seven (7) Vlachs were registered in the 2001 census in the region of Blagoevgrad, the region is portrayed on the map with significant Vlach (Aromanian) enclaves covering nearly one-third of the province. So 0.1% of the population are depicted as population 1/10 of Bulgaria.

b) In the Republic of Macedonia, Vlach enclaves are portayed to cover 1/4 of the territory of the country!!! According to the last census, Vlachs in RoM are 9,600 people (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographics_of_the_Republic_of_Macedonia) or 0.5% of the population. They are concentrated in the capital and in the towns of Krushevo (2,000) and Shtip (2,000). So, if we follow the principle of fair representation, the Vlachs in RoM should be represented by three small dots, not by large strips of land covering 1/4 of the territory of the country.

c) In Serbia, a total of 50,000 Vlachs were registered in the last census in the Timok Valley. They do represent a minority there but on the map the region is depicted as completely Vlach, despite the fact that Vlachs do not constitute a majority in any municipality in the region.

d) The same goes for Greece. There certainly is an Aromanian minority in Greece but under no circumstances so large as represented on the map!!!

e) Again blatant violation of any source data in the case of Ukraine!!! According to the latest census (http://ukrcensus.gov.ua/eng/results/general/nationality/), only 5.5% of the population of the Odessa Region declared to be Moldavian (Romanian) whereas the map depicts more than half of the region as etnically Romanian.

For these reasons, the map should be taken down from all pages it is on at present and should not be put there again until it is duly corrected in compliance with the offical population data concerning Romanians in the countries concerned.


This map seems to exagerate the ro population in ukraine but also aromanian people living in the balkans. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 134.117.181.217 (talk) 03:34, 2 October 2007 (UTC)


[edit] Map is wrong

This map should be changed. I am Romanian but I am aware that the map over-represents the Vlach and Romanian speaking populations. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 158.143.181.123 (talk) 14:26, 9 March 2008 (UTC)

Some observations might be ok, but we should remember that official figures on minorities in Eastern Europe are often unreliable as they were in the beginning of XX century. We can mention as an exemple the Austrian census in Istria and Dalmatia of 1910. Most of the Ukranian migrants present in Italy come from Northern Bucovina and from Odessa District and belong often to the Romanian (Moldavian) minority.