Talk:Manzai

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Is manzai similar to Abbott and Costello, or The Three Stooges? -- zandperl 22:14, 25 Oct 2003 (UTC)

Yes, that`s pretty much what it`s like. One additional aspect is that being from the Kansai region the flavor of that region`s dialect contributes to the humor.

Yes, and the Who's on First routine is a good comparison. 66.235.50.103 (talk) 01:20, 24 November 2007 (UTC)

Abbott and Costello was the comparison I interjected, and I feel that it is very accurate. Manzai has metamorphosized a lot lately, with double boke and double tsukkomi acts, and wacko acts like Yasuda Dai Circus. The Three Stooges are a bit more like old Neptune, even though Nagura played a bit of the straight man, like Moe. Oh, wait, I haven't written the Neptune article yet.... Time to get back to wikiwork. struggle 14:14, 29 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Sources?

This is a very nice rewrite. Can the author add a references section where the sources are cited? — Amcaja 18:24, 10 February 2006 (UTC)

The external links lists one of the sources, though the main source is the Japanese wiki. I've never seen a wiki of another language listed as a source, so I didn't bother. About 30% of it didn't come from a source, because it's common knowledge (only the modern, undisputable stuff like boke and tsukkomi)   freshgavin TALK    00:36, 13 February 2006 (UTC)

Actually, could you clarify what you mean by that? Do you want me to attach reference notes to individual points?   freshgavin TALK    00:38, 13 February 2006 (UTC)

No, I'm not requesting inline citations or anything. Just curious what the overall references were. Does the Japanese wiki list any refs? — Amcaja 22:49, 13 February 2006 (UTC)

Unfortunately no. The "give references" revolution hasn't hit the ja:wiki yet, and their manzai isn't such a comprehensive page anyways, so I'll bet it's just one or two guys pulling it from their heads. Since I'm working on a lot of other pages related to owarai and manzai I'm sure I'll pull up some other references some time, and add to the info on this page.   freshgavin TALK    02:03, 14 February 2006 (UTC)

Good deal. It's nice to have this kind of information on the English wiki, so I hope you continue your work! — Amcaja 04:00, 14 February 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Expansion

The Indonesian version of the article seems to have a little more information. I wonder if any of it could be translated into English and appended here...  freshgavinΓΛĿЌ  04:34, 10 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Etymology

"The kanji for manzai have been written in various ways throughout the ages. Originally written as 萬歳 (meaning something like "long life")..." On the Japanese article for 萬歳 (separate from 漫才) it says its separate from 漫才-Manzai but became the basis of it.Mackan 16:52, 6 June 2006 (UTC)

Yes, that's true that they're quite different, and they have different characteristics, but since modern style manzai didn't exist at the time, and manzai (萬歳) was eventually replaced by manzai (漫才), there's no reason not to consider them along the same time-line. It could do with a slightly expanded explanation to define the differences between the old and new style, I've been meaning to expand the articles when I finish some more important stuff over at project owarai.  freshofftheufoΓΛĿЌ  03:07, 7 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] External link

the external link from pacificu.edu now gives a 404 error. --220.12.252.3 07:01, 6 September 2007 (UTC)(nobuyuki)