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[edit] "Manila" as disambiguation page
I would just like to question the change to this page as a disam:Actually, if you look at the what links here page of Manila
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- Regarding Wikipedia's Wikipedia:Disambiguation policy, it's very clear about the so called "primary topic" disambiguation (see the third bullet in the first list of the policy page). Basically it says that if a term is almost always used to refer to a particular object or thing or person, not just in Wikipedia but moreso in general, then that object/thing/person gets the primary article.
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- That is why we have Paris instead of Paris, France. Almost all instances of Paris refer to the city. There are only a few that refer to Paris (mythology) of the Trojan War or any of the other towns named Paris.
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- Now, going back to Manila, I'm quite sure that when you use the term Manila it would mean the city probably 90% of the time in general. Manila hemp, Manila envelope or even the various Manila towns in the US won't be referred to that much (and you almost always disambiguate them like Manila, Utah to avoid confusion). Even Manila hemp was named that because of the city. So I believe that Manila, the capital of the Philippines, is a good candidate for "primary topic" disambiguation.
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- Besides, I won't expect people to create new Manila, Philippines links and get the spelling of the country right. Even you yourself misspelled it as Filippines.
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- Besides, I won't expect people to create new Manila, Philippines links and get the spelling of the country right. Even you yourself misspelled it as Filippines.
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- Ok, I'm convinced. And sorry about not changing the links, I'll be wiser in the future. And since the whole mess is my doing, I'm going to do the Manila, Philippines->Manila changes myself. --- Timo Honkasalo
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[edit] Official Website of Manila's problem
Sorry if this seems to be out of topic. I'm Mozilla Firefox user, and the official website of Manila requires me to have Internet Explorer installed, how do I overcome this problem? - w3bu53r
- I don't have problems seeing it and I use Firefox. What problems are you encountering? --seav 21:53, 19 Jul 2004 (UTC)
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- The website denied my access into the main site, it redirected my browser into a special page that basically asks me to have Internet Explorer installed first. - w3bu53r
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- Well, I clicked on the "View Intro" link, then clicked on the "Enter Site" link. Will that work for you? --seav 21:39, 20 Jul 2004 (UTC)
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- That does the trick. Thanks.
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[edit] Featured Article collaboration
[edit] Proposed outline
- Introduction
- City sights
- Location and districts
- Parks and open areas
- Commercial areas
- Educational and cultural institutions
- Religious landmarks
- People
- Demographics
- Languages
- Religion
- Sports and recreation
- Economy
- Manufacturing
- Transportation
- Public services
- Housing
- Government
- History
- Pre-colonial times
- Spanish era
- American period and WWII
- Post-war era and modern times
One problem is how to tackle the subject of Manila as opposed to the other cities and municipalities in Metro Manila. Manila is tightly integrated to the rest of the metropolis, that discussion of some topics might also apply unchanged to other suburbs. --seav 15:07, 20 November 2005 (UTC)
[edit] What other encyclopedias have for Manila
Here's a sampling of how other encyclopedias have organized their "Manila" articles.
[edit] MSN Encarta (1993+)Introduction
Population
Economy
Urban Landscape
Education and Culture
History
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[edit] Columbia Encyclopedia (6th Ed)
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[edit] Encyclopædia Britannica (online)
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[edit] World Book Encyclopedia (1992)Introduction
The city
History
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[edit] NAIA
Isn't it NAIA is at Paranaque/Pasay? If then, should we remove it from the article? Circa 1900 11:26, 26 November 2005 (UTC)
- That's true, but you can not mention it since that's the airport's that services Manila. It was even called Manila International Airport before. Vancouver International Airport is not in Vancouver, but in Richmond, just south of Vancouver. But the airport gets mentioned in the Vancouver article. Just place proper context. --seav 11:36, 26 November 2005 (UTC)
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- OK. How about the map? It needs minor updates, like the San Lazaro Racetrack is now SM City San Lazaro, etc.
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- I'd have to recreate the map again. My hard drive crashed bringing down with it all my source files for ALL the maps I did. And I don't have the time right now. Baka sa Christmas break na lang. =( --seav 09:57, 28 November 2005 (UTC)
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[edit] Infobox
Although the Infobox is elegantly designed and informative, why not try adding some colors and revising font styles to make it more attractive? --User:Matthewprc 9:00, 28 November 2005 (UTC)
- I think the first priority is the content. Right? --seav 10:00, 28 November 2005 (UTC)
- How about using the national colors? Like blue, red, yellow and white? Circa 1900 05:59, 9 December 2005 (UTC)
- Eww, I don't see that working out very well. I'd prefer something in the more standard Wikipedia colors. Take a look at the infobox I implemented at Valencia,_Negros Oriental... how about we make that the standard infobox? Coffee 07:23, 9 December 2005 (UTC)
- I like that. Circa 1900 04:46, 10 December 2005 (UTC)
- Eww, I don't see that working out very well. I'd prefer something in the more standard Wikipedia colors. Take a look at the infobox I implemented at Valencia,_Negros Oriental... how about we make that the standard infobox? Coffee 07:23, 9 December 2005 (UTC)
[edit] Images
Please forgive me if I offend anyone, but I stumbled across this article and the images here were a bit of a mess. I removed some pics, moved others and changed the size and placement of some. Certainly the article looks a great deal neater now. *Exeunt* Ganymead | Dialogue? 15:19, 9 May 2006 (UTC)
That stereo image is too small to view on the page and too big to view when you click on it. If someone who knows how to do that sort of thing were to arrange the size such that the two images of a central object (like the cart in the foreground) appeared about 55mm apart, we would be able to view the scene in stereo. - Pepper 150.203.227.130 08:11, 21 November 2006 (UTC)
[edit] SM Mall of Asia
is at Pasay City, not Manila. --Howard the Duck 04:07, 10 July 2006 (UTC)
agreed Daimengrui 02:24, 15 November 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Commerce or Nightlife?
Commerce talks about malls and nightlife. Shouldn't commerce talk about trade and you know... money in general. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 125.60.243.85 (talk • contribs)
- Well, you may add some info there. But malls are like markets, where you trade, so I guess it can be included. --Howard the Duck 14:51, 16 September 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Climate
To be added when a climate section is ready.
Month | Jan | Feb | Mar | Apr | May | Jun | Jul | Aug | Sep | Oct | Nov | Dec | Year |
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Avg high temperature°C | 30 | 31 | 32 | 33 | 33 | 32 | 31 | 30 | 31 | 30 | 30 | 30 | 31 |
Avg low temperature °C (°F) | 21 | 22 | 22 | 24 | 25 | 25 | 24 | 23 | 23 | 23 | 23 | 22 | 23 |
Avg precipitation (cm) | 2 | 1 | 1 | 3 | 12 | 26 | 40 | 36 | 34 | 19 | 13 | 6 | 197 |
Source: Weatherbase |
--Howard the Duck 13:03, 6 November 2006 (UTC)
- Anyone know how to add colors for this like those found in other city articles? --Howard the Duck 09:31, 10 December 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Incoming
Manila wikipedia article was mentioned in the currently-airing episode of Veronica Mars —Random8322007-01-24T02:17:38UTC(01/23 21:17EST)
- On a sidenote, Kristen Bell is hot :p --Howard the Duck 10:52, 24 January 2007 (UTC)
Manila, being the capital and historic center of history and trade going on during the Spanish Empire naturally allowed Spanish to be the official language. There was no English yet - this only came later on in the mid-1900s with the Americans who overdid it there as their agenda. Spanish (and even broken Spanish) was in fact spoken, not by the majority, but it was used everyday and understood regularly like it was another dialect. There were even publications and radio in Spanish. Its population of those who had it as their native tongue was never majority, but put the whole population of then-Manila together, and most people had Spanish as their second or third language or had some knowledge of it, even throughout the country. This went all the way to the 50s or 60s.
[edit] Education
It's been a while since I was here, but doesn't the Education section seem a little "too much"? --Edward Sandstig 18:04, 11 May 2007 (UTC)
- If you'll ask me, I'll leave UST, La Salle, PLM and MaSci and just leave a link to Category:Educational institutions in Manila. I think that'll be a good compromise (2 private schools, 2 public schools, 1 each from the U-Belt, Intramuros and 2 from Taft, etc.) But I'm betting the anons will start readding their own schools once the section is condensed. --Howard the Duck 04:40, 12 May 2007 (UTC)
- Then we'll just have to be vigilant and revert. If push comes to shove, we could request semi-protection, but it would be nice if we had a basis (that could be verified) for choosing those four schools. Maybe just include universities and choose based on size of student population? There are a number of high schools on the list that I've never heard of and whose Wikipedia articles don't contain anything other than "Blank school is a high school in Manila". Clearly some of those schools don't qualify as notable? --Edward Sandstig 12:42, 14 May 2007 (UTC)
- Notability of schools is highly disputable and there were several AFDs that went forever. I'll support the deletions of these articles since Wikipedia doesn't need them.
- As for the 4 schools, it's a good compromise. To say schools like UE or FEU should be here would open a Pandora's box which would lead to more additions. If we base it purely on student population, DLSU won't make it if we'll cut it into the top 4. --Howard the Duck 13:38, 14 May 2007 (UTC)
- So do we use the Asiaweek's Asia's Best Universities special report to justify the inclusion of DLSU? The report's from 2000 though. UST makes it in by default being the largest university in Manila, and PLM by being the city's own university. Manila Science is a science high school, so I don't think more has to be said. --Edward Sandstig 18:04, 14 May 2007 (UTC)
- Then we'll just have to be vigilant and revert. If push comes to shove, we could request semi-protection, but it would be nice if we had a basis (that could be verified) for choosing those four schools. Maybe just include universities and choose based on size of student population? There are a number of high schools on the list that I've never heard of and whose Wikipedia articles don't contain anything other than "Blank school is a high school in Manila". Clearly some of those schools don't qualify as notable? --Edward Sandstig 12:42, 14 May 2007 (UTC)
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- A similar problem has been raised with regard to the education section in the Quezon City article. This is the "problem" posed by having a large concentration of schools in large urban centers such as QC and Manila. I do not think the notability criterion will be satisfied by such things as an outdated Asiaweek report. The key issue will be defining criteria for inclusion as "noteworthy." The list will be defining what notability is, if the objective is to really cut down the list. Otherwise, we will have to put up with the current grocery list. As Howard has already pointed out, notability is highly disputable. This is especially true since many schools in this list have had some sort of historical significance at some point in time. However, one thing I noticed is that not all of these schools are mentioned anywhere else except in the list of institutions in this article and in their own respective articles. Perhaps for the sake of "notability," one of the criteria can be whether aside from this article, an institution is mentioned elsewhere in Wikipedia? Rmcsamson 20:00, 14 May 2007 (UTC)
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- Have been bold and edited. --Edward Sandstig 21:37, 17 May 2007 (UTC)
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- This is actually a decent edit. Congratulations. Rmcsamson 03:22, 18 May 2007 (UTC)
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How about schools that are rich in history and excel in both in their academic and athletic programs? I would say the schools are La Salle, San Beda, Letran, UST, FEU, UE, Mapua, and San Sebastian. All are celebrated in UAAP/NCAA and have been proven in their academic programs plus each has its own rich history in relation to the city of Manila.—The preceding unsigned comment was added by 67.101.145.37 (talk • contribs) 02:48, 23 May 2007 (UTC).
- Links to those schools can still be found when you visit the main article listing colleges and universities in the Philippines. Adding them to this list, when we've already attempted to specify criteria for the four universities and one high school would just lead to people adding more schools which would result in the same grocery list we had before. --Edward Sandstig 11:07, 23 May 2007 (UTC)
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- The problem, again, is how you can say a school is "celebrated," or "proven," or has a "rich history." This is why I said cross-referencing might help us weed out those other schools in the grocery list.Rmcsamson 11:43, 23 May 2007 (UTC)
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- In the encyclopedia at home, UST, UP and (brace yourselves) University of Manila were mentioned in the three-paragraph Manila article. --Howard the Duck 04:07, 24 May 2007 (UTC)
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UP is in Dilaman though67.101.145.37 05:43, 24 May 2007 (UTC)
- Clarified: the statement said "universities in the metropolitan area of Manila" and it included only UP and UST. Also, see the #What other encyclopedias have for Manila above, especially MSN Encarta.--Howard the Duck 05:48, 24 May 2007 (UTC)
[edit] U.S. Rule and WW2 sections
I removed two comments added by Jeremyinstanton (talk · contribs), since the article's page isn't the place for adding comments. Sources still need to be provided for the estimates of war-dead from the Philippine-American war and American carpet-bombing causing more casualties than the fleeing Japanese, otherwise, I'll rework them tomorrow, since the request for citation was added almost a week ago. --Edward Sandstig 21:29, 17 May 2007 (UTC)
- I couldn't find any source for American bombs causing more casualties than the fleeing Japanese, so I removed that sentence. I copied the references from Philippine-American War for the statement about casualty estimates. --Edward Sandstig 17:30, 23 May 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Where is CCP?
Pasay or Manila? --Howard the Duck 04:09, 3 June 2007 (UTC)
- Pasay City according to their own website. --Edward Sandstig 07:20, 3 June 2007 (UTC)
[edit] U.S. rule - NPOV?
Unless someone gives a reason why the NPOV tag should stay it shall be removed. --Howard the Duck 07:47, 3 June 2007 (UTC)
- I think it can be safely removed. Sounds pretty neutral, and the unsourced items have been removed. --Edward Sandstig 13:25, 3 June 2007 (UTC)
- This section contains adjectives and phrases exhibiting a level of emotion unbecoming of an encyclopedia article. First names for Generals Otis and MacArthur, a full name for "Howling Jake" (or the use of quotations if full name is unavailable) would be more even-toned. The factual content is fine, but I suggest it be rewritten, with links where necessary. I would have rewritten it myself but realized there was an ongoing discussion. --Shanghaijim 04:48, 6 June 2007 (UTC)
[edit] The 'San Francisco of Asia"?
Since when? --Howard the Duck 00:38, 26 June 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Let's sit down and talk about Wikipedia Manila
I encourage everybody to participate in this meeting. Please post your replies to Wikipedia talk:Meetup/Manila 2 --Exec8 06:00, 8 July 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Isko Moreno
I believe we should use the real name of the Vice Mayor of Manila, which is Francisco Domagoso, or Francisco "Isko Moreno" Domagaso because:
1. It is the name he used in his Certifacate of Candidacy for Vice Mayor in the May 2007 elections; 2. It is the name he uses in official communications and transactions in the City Hall; 3. It is the name the Official website of Manila uses in the [Office of the Vice Mayor page].
In his Certificate of Candidacy, Vice Mayor used his screen name "Isko Moreno" only as his nickname. Unlike Joseph Estrada or FPJ na gumamit ng kanilang screen names bilang official names in their Certificate of Candidacy at sa mga official transactions.Angeles624 18:20, 10 July 2007 (UTC)
- Doesn't matter on all accounts. The United States lists a certain "Dick Cheney" as president when everyone knows he's Richard Cheney. I doubt if Cheney's name plate even includes the name or signs with "Dick". --Howard the Duck 01:02, 11 July 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Ancient name :Maniola??
Ptolemy in his world map mentions Maniola(no wiki article). This may have been the ancient name of the Philippines and Manila. Maniola is now a species of butterflies. --Jondel 04:10, 27 August 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Photo
Lately two anons had been reverting each other for the top photo. What gives? If you people don't stop I'll petition this article to be semi-protected. --Howard the Duck 02:48, 27 September 2007 (UTC)
[edit] fact checking
I have noticed some misstatements of fact in this article. For example raja means king in Sanskrit. Not 'Muslim community leader'. If Tondo, Manila was referred to in the Laguna Copperplate Inscription in year 900 (822 Saka Era, a common Hindu calendar of Southeast Asia) then how does this fit with the statement about the 13th century Manila. If Manila existed at least 2 centuries earlier, then the sentence needs to be reworded.
Some sentences marked Original Research are not logical either. 'So severely beaten that ... breastworks' fails to follow. I suggest getting rid of the words 'so' and 'that', because the words imply a logical connection. A citation wouldn't hurt, either. Otherwise, those sentences ought to be removed from the encyclopedia. --Ancheta Wis 10:21, 9 October 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Clean up
I tagged it because it really needs clean-up especially the lower portion stashing list of stuffs. Thank you. --βritand&βeyonce (talk•contribs) 05:50, 7 November 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Places of interest
there are far too many lists in this section, that make this a travel guide or a directory. WP:NOT#DIR I propose removing and only keeping most notable examples as per WP:LIST Michellecrisp (talk) 06:53, 10 December 2007 (UTC)
- Furthermore, remaining list should be written in prose. --βritandβeyonce (talk•contribs) 07:22, 10 December 2007 (UTC)
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- Well, we can do nothing but to remove those embedded list. --βritandβeyonce (talk•contribs) 08:36, 10 December 2007 (UTC)
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- It would still be a good idea to keep that list in there, it just needs some serious amendments. Maybe, we should include only a few and wirte a 1 or 2 sentence desription. If we need to decide, for a start, deleter anything red linked - if it's not significant enough to have its own article, it's not significant enough to be on that list. We could keep the City Hall in there, as it is the centre of town, but then again, every established city has one of those. Secondly, I think we should get rid of the hospitals section - I mean, what sort of tourist visits a hospital for leisure? Thirdly, having all those shopping malls there is a bit of an advert. However, it would be good to mention some sort of significance in the plethora of malls, like "Manila is one of the biggest hubs for shopping in Southeast Asia". As for the spammers, anyway, we can bother them on their talk pages. ætərnal ðrAعon 09:20, 10 December 2007 (UTC)
- Actually the anons will stop if they got tired. The Education section had LOTS of schools before but it was trimmed down. --Howard the Duck 02:28, 11 December 2007 (UTC)
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- This maybe an opinion but realistic; I hate lists. They ruin the beauty of the article. Although these might help improve the article for some additional information, writing these to prose is better. --βritandβeyonce (talk•contribs) 06:22, 11 December 2007 (UTC)
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- I agree with B&B, lists make articles messy, unless they are written in prose style. To start us off, I've dragged the list below, what say we start crossing off things that are irrelevant and discuss it if anyone wants to. By doing it in prose style, it encourages anyone who feels like adding another landmark to elaborate on why it is well-known. Sorry if putting the whole list down is killing off the talk page. ætərnal ðrAعon 08:39, 12 December 2007 (UTC)
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- Apolinario Mabini Shrine
- Chinatown (Binondo district)
- Embassy of the United States of America
- Ermita and Malate Districts, a place for Bohemian night life
- Fort Santiago
- Intramuros, the walled city built by the Spaniards, originally considered to be the City of Manila
- Liwasang Bonifacio (Former name: Plaza Lawton)
- Malacañan Palace, the official residence of the President of the Philippines
- Manila Baywalk
- Malate Church
- Manila Boardwalk
- Manila Cathedral
- Manila City Hall
- Manila Yacht Club
- Manila Zoological and Botanical Garden (Manila Zoo)
- Metropolitan Theater
- Museo Pambata
- National Library of the Philippines
- National Museum
- Paco Park, the location of the hit Paco Park Presents
- Plaza Lorenzo Ruiz
- Plaza Miranda
- Quiapo Church
- Quirino Grandstand
- Rajah Sulayman Park
- Remedios Circle
- Rizal Park, also known as Luneta
- San Agustin Church
- San Sebastian Church
- The Manila Hotel
- The Supreme Court of the Philippines
- University Belt Area
- Victims of Martial Law Memorial Wall - Bonifacio Shrine (near City Hall)
===Hospitals===
Manila has both public sector hospitals and private sector hospitals, and many are keen to become involved in medical tourism. However, to date very few have been subjected to international healthcare accreditation, whether of American, British or Australian origin.
Chinese General Hospital and Medical Center (Private - Blumentritt St., Santa Cruz)Dr. Jose Fabella Memorial Hospital (Lope de Vega, Santa Cruz)Dr. Jose R. Reyes Memorial Medical Center (Rizal Ave., Manila)Family Clinic (Private - Sampaloc)Gat Andres Bonifacio Memorial Medical Center (Tondo)Hospital of the Infant Jesus (Private - Laong Laan St., Sampaloc)Manila Doctors' Hospital (Private - UN Ave., Ermita)Manila Center Medical (Private - Gen. Luna St., Ermita)Mary Chiles General Hospital (Private - Gastambide St., Sampaloc)Mary Johnston Hospital (Private - Juan Nolasco St., Tondo)Ospital ng Maynila Medical Center (Roxas Blvd., Malate)Our Lady of Lourdes Hospital (Private - Sanchez St., Santa Mesa)Philippine General Hospital (Taft Ave., Ermita)San Lazaro Hospital (Quiricada, Santa Cruz)University of Santo Tomas Hospital (Private - España, Sampaloc)Tondo Medical Center (Balut, Tondo)
[edit] Hotels
Manila offers a wide range of accommodations ranging from top-rated de-luxe hotels to more affordable universal lodges. Most of these accommodations are located within Roxas Boulevard overlooking Manila Bay, or in the districts of Ermita and Malate. Manila's hotel accommodations are 20 to 30 minutes away from the international and domestic airport.
[edit] Places of worship
The cosmopolitan atmosphere and cultural diversity of Manila is reflected in the number of places of worship scattered around the city. The freedom of worship in the Philippines, which have existed since the creation of the republic, allowed the diverse population to build their sacred sites without the fear of persecution. People of different denominations are represented here with the presence of Christian churches, Buddhist temples, Jewish synagogues, and Islamic mosques.
- Abbey of Our Lady of Montserrat (Benedictine Chapel inside San Beda College)
- Archdiocesan Shrine of St. Jude Thaddeus
*Basilica Minore de San Lorenzo Ruiz (Binondo Church)
- Basilica Minore de San Sebastian (San Sebastian Church), the only all-steel church in Gothic style in Asia (Built 1891)
*Basilica Minore de la Immaculada Concepcion (Manila Cathedral)
Basilica Minore del Nazareno Negro (Quiapo Church)- Buddhist Temple (Malate, Manila)
- Cathedral of the Child Jesus - Iglesia Filipina Independiente (Aglipayan)
- Chapel of the Blessed Sacrament (De La Salle University Manila Main Chapel)(Built 1938)
- Chinese Temple (Binondo, Manila)
- The House of the Lord - Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints (Mormon temple in Greenmeadows Subdivision, Quezon City, Metro Manila. Also several public chapels throughout the city.)
- Hindu Temple (Paco, Manila)
*Iglesia de la Parroquia de Santo Niño (Pandacan, Manila)
Iglesia de Santa CruzIglesia ni Cristo (Cruzada Street, Quiapo)Iglesia ni Cristo (Solis, Tondo)Mosque del Globo de Oro (Quiapo, Manila)- Nuestra Señora de Guia Church (Ermita Church)
- National Shrine of St. Michael and the Archangels (San Miguel, Manila)
- Nuestra Señora de Remedios Church (Malate Church)
- Parroquia de San Fernando de Dilao (Paco, Manila)
- San Agustin Church, Intramuros -Oldest Catholic Church in the Philippines (Built in the 15th Century)- Only Church in Intramuros that survived the destruction of Intramuris during the February 1945 Liberation of Manila
- Sto. Niño de Tondo Church (Tondo, Manila)
[edit] Sporting venues
- Rizal Memorial Sports Complex (RMSC), Vito Cruz Street, Malate (Built-1934)
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Rizal Memorial Track/Football StadiumRizal Memorial Baseball StadiumNinoy Aquino Basketball Stadium
San Andres Gym (formerly Mail and More Arena, the home of the defunct Manila Metrostars.)
===Museums===
Bahay TsinoyIntramuros Light and Sound MuseumMuseo ng Maynila (Museum of Manila)(Pre-War Army-Navy Club Bldg.), Rizal ParkNational Museum of the Filipino People, Rizal ParkMain National Museum, Padre Burgos StreetMuseo Pambata (Children's Museum)(Pre-War Elk's Club Bldg.), Rizal ParkParish of the Our Lady of the Abandoned - Sta. Ana (pre-Spanish artifacts)Plaza San Luis, IntramurosSan Agustin Church Museum, IntramurosThe Museum - De La Salle University-Manila, Taft Avenue, MalateUST Museum of Arts and Sciences
[edit] Cemeteries
*La Loma Cemetery *Manila North Cemetery
[edit] Map of Manila Districts
Can anyone direct me to a map of Manila City showing the boundaries of the Districts? I've searched and searched and can't find one. Intelligent Mr Toad (talk) 05:06, 30 January 2008 (UTC)
- See this image, upper left corner. --Howard the Duck 05:35, 30 January 2008 (UTC)
Thanks. Why is this map NOT LINKED to the relevant articles on Filipino elections? I have just spent several days constructing a similar map by painstakingly assembling district maps from various sources, and now I find there was one here all along, but not linked to anything. This is VERY ANNOYING. Intelligent Mr Toad (talk) 07:04, 30 January 2008 (UTC)
- I dunno myself. I thought it was displayed everywhere so I didn't bother. --Howard the Duck 12:41, 30 January 2008 (UTC)
[edit] Bridges
why is this section included? it is rarely included in any city article? hardly something you would look up for in an encyclopaedia? Michellecrisp (talk) 05:32, 29 February 2008 (UTC)
- Maybe it shouldn't have its own section. But the World Book Encyclopedia article on Manila mentions these bridges so there's a precedent. --seav (talk) 08:12, 29 February 2008 (UTC)
[edit] Historical perspective on manufacturing
Is way too long. Michellecrisp (talk) 05:12, 26 April 2008 (UTC)