Talk:Manila Metro Rail Transit System

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[edit] Renaming this article

There is already an article called Manila Light Rail Transit System that is similar to this one but different enough -- perhaps this article should be renamed to List of Manila Metro Stations or something like that. I'm too new to know the "official" way to do this... -- StopTheFiling 17:54, Jun 14, 2005 (UTC)

There's a difference between the MRT and the LRT. I think. Hey, what is the difference anyway? Why aren't they all just called "MRT"? :p TheCoffee 18:06, 23 July 2005 (UTC)
LRT-1 (Yellow Line - Baclaran to Monumento) and MRT-2 (Purple line - Santolan to Recto) are run by the LRTA while Metrostar/MRT-3 (Blue Line - Taft Ave. to North Ave.) is run by MRTC. Edward Sandstig 23:54, 9 June 2006 (UTC)
Actually, MRT-3 is run by the DOTC. The MRTC is in charge of maintainance works. --Akira123323 Say what? | Track record 10:00, 13 June 2006 (UTC)
Thanks for the correction. Would you happen to have data on when the transfer portion of the BOT agreement will take effect and if the system will then be part of the LRTA? Edward Sandstig 11:16, 13 June 2006 (UTC)
I'm do not have anything on that yet. I would have to check the agreement between the DOTC and MRTC, but I can't find any records of that online. I might have to check with the DOTC or the MRTC on that. --Akira123323 Say what? | Track record 10:42, 16 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Line map

While I appreciate that this article includes a map of this transit system, it would be a useful improvement if this map included the routes of the Manila Light Rail Transit System. -- llywrch 02:58, 30 June 2006 (UTC)

I would love that too, although the LRT isn't exactly involved in this system, especially since they are not related to each other. Besides, that type of map is in the LRT article. --Akira123323 Say what? | Track record 12:44, 30 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Depot

can that section be incorporated into other section? it is stubby (one sentence) only. --Howard the Duck 10:14, 2 July 2006 (UTC)

I decided to expand it. Hope it's sufficient. --Akira123323 Say what? | Track record 10:35, 2 July 2006 (UTC)
It's good enough for me. --Howard the Duck 10:39, 2 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Stable version

I think the current version would be a good candidate for stabilization. Thoughts? -- Where 21:08, 11 July 2006 (UTC)

The one minor problem being that the proposal hasn't passed, therefore following it would violated WP:PROT et al. Cynical 20:34, 30 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] G-Pass

So far, the only sources i've found for information are tech blogs. If they can be used as sources, here are the links:

--Mithril Cloud 05:33, 5 August 2006 (UTC)

I heard of G-Pass on TV last week. I want to put it in, but I need sufficient citations to do it. Surprisingly, Globe hasn't talked about it in its website. --Sky Harbor 14:07, 6 August 2006 (UTC)
They've been advertising it already in stations though. Anyway, i found this: http://www.gmanews.tv/business.php?sec=3&id=12137 --Mithril Cloud 14:10, 6 August 2006 (UTC)
It might work for a citation. I'll try to clean up the section too. --Sky Harbor 21:53, 6 August 2006 (UTC)

The G-Pass service is already in all MRT stations, you guys might want to put that in there.

[edit] Inclusion at Portal:Philippines

How about a one-paragraph summary of the article? Like the one used at the FA Main Page. Thanks. --Howard the Duck 14:09, 30 October 2006 (UTC)

MRT Train approaching Ayala Avenue Station

The Manila Metro Rail Transit System, more popularly known as the MRT, is part of the main metropolitan rail system serving the Metro Manila area in the Philippines. Only one line exists within this network, and that is MRT-3, called the Blue Line. It is also popularly known as the Metrostar Express or Metrostar for short. Although the network has characteristics of light rail, such as the type of rolling stock used, the system is more akin to a rapid transit system. The system is not related to the Manila Light Rail Transit System, which forms a completely different but linked system. Although one of the original purposes of the system was to decongest Epifanio de los Santos Avenue (EDSA), one of Metro Manila's main thoroughfares, many commuters who ride the MRT also take various forms of road-based public transport, such as buses, to reach the intended destination from an MRT station. While this forms a comprehensive transportation system serving many parts of Metro Manila, the system has only been partially successful in decongesting the very busy thoroughfare, which is further aggravated by the rising number of motor vehicles in the metropolis. The system is operated by the Metro Rail Transit Corporation, a private company operating in partnership with the Department of Transportation and Communications under a Build-Operate-Transfer agreement.

Copied the summary from the Trains portal and added MRTC info. --Mithril Cloud 02:10, 1 November 2006 (UTC)
This'll be for December; I've already updated the portal. --Howard the Duck 06:05, 1 November 2006 (UTC)
Use the updated picture for it. --Mithril Cloud 12:09, 8 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Future expansion

According to these sources, the LRT-1 will be the one expanded to North EDSA.

--Mithril Cloud 05:08, 9 December 2006 (UTC)

The ENT was very unpopular with members of the SkyscraperCity forums, and the article suggests that it will be MRT-3 that will be extended. It's impossible to extend LRT-1 to North Avenue, given the way it was built and its location. --Sky Harbor 00:47, 17 December 2006 (UTC)
Okay. --Mithril Cloud 04:52, 17 December 2006 (UTC)


THE Philippine government plans to float bonds or IOUs to raise funds for the extension of the Light Rail Transit Line 1 in Monumento to North Avenue in Quezon City, a high-ranking DOTC official said Monday.

In an interview, Guiling A. Mamondiong, undersecretary for railway of the Department of Transportation and Communications, said the government will sell bonds worth $120 million to provide funding for the 5.4-kilometer railway from Monumento to Quezon City.

Mamondiong said the expansion comprises three new stations—Balintawak, Muñoz and North Avenue.

“The feasibility and detailed engineering study are undergoing,” he confirmed, saying further the LRT Line 1 and the MRT 3 loop will be closed by 2010.

The LRT Line 1 North extension project will replace the abandoned Edsa North Transit (ENT) project. It will run from North Avenue to Malabon and connect NorthRail project.

With that said, the LRT's the one going to get extended, not the MRT. --Mithril Cloud 06:43, 28 January 2007 (UTC)

I commute to Makati using EDSA every working day, and I must say that the MRT is very noisy. The authorities should consider converting the MRT, as well as the two LRTs, to rubber-tired metros. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 124.107.159.125 (talk) 09:49, 15 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] What exactly constitutes a "network"?

This sentence from the opening paragraph strikes me as odd: Only one line exists within this network, and that is MRT-3, called the Blue Line. If there's only one line, how can it be a network? Doesn't a network, by definition, consist of several lines which cross each other? Perhaps it should say "system," rather than "network." It appears that the larger metropolitan rail system consists of several independent systems which interconnect and together act as a network, but I don't think a system which only consists of one line can be a network by itself. What does anyone else think? Mpwrmnt 08:06, 18 December 2006 (UTC)

What about
  • Only one line currently exists within this planned network; that line is designated 'MRT-3' or the 'Blue Line'.
Ancheta Wis 09:45, 18 December 2006 (UTC)
But the MRT is not a planned network. Unfortunately, this is a consequence of the Philippines' overdependence on Build-Operate-Transfer. It will be years before the MRT is integrated into the LRT. --Sky Harbor 21:21, 18 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Picture pop vandalism

Just looked at this as a featured article and to my shock someone had managed to seriously vandalise the page. I edited the page as quickly as possible as this picture could cause serious offence. In my haste I may have deleted some logos etc (sorry) but my main concern was the removal of the picture! I recommend that this page be locked. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Sim1066 (talk • contribs) 12:47, 18 December 2006 (UTC).

Thanks for your effort and goodwill --Jmax- 13:05, 18 December 2006 (UTC)

The page has just been vandalized with another image, but I don't know how to remove it. SailorAlphaCentauri 16:49, 18 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Edit question

I was curious as to why there is a line through part of the opening paragraph which describes the rail as operating more like 'rapid transit'. It seemed odd because it crosses out part of a sentence and what is crossed out is part of today's featured paragraph. SailorAlphaCentauri 16:46, 18 December 2006 (UTC)

Looks like the strikethrough has been removed. SailorAlphaCentauri 17:03, 18 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] This page has been hacked!

There is a pornographic image at the beginning of the article. I tried to revert it, but it is still there! Since it is very blatant vandalism, it should have been reverted quickly. However, it is nowhere in the edit history! From my conclusions, it is the result of a hacker. SupaStarGirl 16:53, 18 December 2006 (UTC)

Never mind, it's gone now. SupaStarGirl 16:54, 18 December 2006 (UTC)

This sort of vandalism usually results from someone editing one of the templates used in the article so that they load an indecent image. To remove it, someone has to track down which template has been affected. - WJBscribe (WJB talk) 16:55, 18 December 2006 (UTC)
It seems like this has been happening to a lot of articles that are linked to from the main page lately. Why don't you just stop people from editing the templates that are on the article of the day? -- Local Woman 18:31, 18 December 2006 (UTC)
Ohhhhh, I kinda forgot templates could be edited. :-) SupaStarGirl 00:34, 19 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Small edits, a question regarding power supply, and a suggested - generalised - section reordering

The minor edits are as given: the use of acronyms perhaps needs some sort of policy discussion (eg, one has to remember them a long way into the article text).

The question: it's not immediately clear what the power system is (and where it comes from - own system's generation, external, solar, etc?): the text tells of catenary breaks (in the safety section): this imlies that is not a 'third-rail' or other power system, but a description could be explicit.

This raises the general 'flow-through' of this a(and any?) encyclopedia entry: 'the planning/history, followed bt the building/commisioning, followed by the 'what is', followed by daily use, followed by not-usual events, followed by future possibilities' sort of article flow suggests a possible re-ordering of the sections - and the inclusion of an expanded physical description part (the power supply, source, etc), as one possible addition.

There's not much indication of financial and other costs, political impacts, etc.

But a goodly and worthy Wikipedia entry! Thanks to all who worked on it.

john courtneidge


[edit] This article within the scope of the WikiProjects Systems

Hi, I have put this article under the scope of the WikiProject Systems because of the formal relation, but more because of the inspiring and motivating example this article can give our project and it's participants (to come). We are still a small and beginning group, and working to get our own toko going. In due time I hope we can also deliver a valuable contributions here from our point of view. In the mean time I wish all of you all te best. Best regards - Mdd 21:43, 4 May 2007 (UTC)