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[edit] Ownership by Sun Myung Moon's Unification Church

I have reverted user Manhattan Center's change of Unification Church to the equivalent "Holy Spirit Association for the Unification of World Christianity" back to its proper to Wikipedia name, Unification Church, and the person readers know better than church name, Sun Myung Moon, even though Manhattan Center would prefer to hide this information. -Exucmember 22:04, 9 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Unification Church clarification

Hello Exucmember, I just wanted to make a clarification on my edits on the Manhattan Center page. The goal of my contributions to this page is to ensure the factual accuracy of the details on the history of the building. Also, I'm aiming to keep the history section consistent with the history on Manhattan Center's official website. The entries on the official website are neutral, factual, and they should fit well within Wikipedia's standards. The website lists that the building was purchased by the Holy Spirit Association for the Unification of World Christianity (the Unification Church). It doesn't say that it was purchased by Sun Myung Moon's Unification church. This phrasing is redundant; similarly, you would not refer to the Church of Scientology as L. Ron Hubbard's Church of Scientology. If you were a Roman Catholic, you would not refer to your church as the Pope's Roman Catholic Church. The leaders (or some cases, originators) of the chuch are assumed. It's not that you wish to hide the information about the leader of the church, you only want to ensure the accuracy of the church's name when it is mentioned. For these reasons, all I ask is that the reference on Manhattan Center's Wikipedia page match the information on the website. Thanks. 69.38.167.178 17:27, 11 July 2006 (UTC) (copied from User talk:Exucmember)

Anyone can verify that in this last round of edits User: Manhattan Center (you, apparently) entirely deleted all reference to the Unification Church or HSA-UWC. Perhaps this was unintentional.

The Roman Catholic Church is better known than the Unification Church, and its history is less dominated by one man or even by all the popes collectively. My thought was that the name "Rev. Sun Myung Moon" in conjunction with that of the Unification Church was more easily recognizable than simply the Unification Church by itself; however, I have solved this difference of opinion.

Your statement: "all I ask is that the reference on Manhattan Center's Wikipedia page match the information on the [Manhattan Center's] website" is ridiculous. Suppose we were to agree on an institution that had something it prefered not to reveal because of its being controversial, say, an affiliation with the Ku Klux Klan. If its official web site neglected to say anything about this important affiliation, is that a sound reason for an appeal that it not be mentioned in an encyclopedia article? The raising of controversial issues and allowance for criticism is a hallmark of Wikipedia. -Exucmember 21:37, 11 July 2006 (UTC)