Talk:Manchester United F.C. Reserves & Academy

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Does http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manchester_United_F.C._Academy not fit in with this. There seems to be edits to the squad in the other page which then are missed out of this one and visa-versa. -

You've got my support on this one. The info in the two articles is largely the same anyway. - PeeJay 07:02, 14 June 2007 (UTC)
I am largley responsible for creating this page, and would agree with joining it with the academy page as long as it was titled the same to include the resreves. - consulrjo

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[edit] Delete it

I think we should just delete the academy page, everything on there is on the reserves/academy page so it is no longer needed.

I'd concur. I've been responsible for creating/updating the academy page and it makes no real sense having that separate. One other thing I would say is that on this page, there seems to be a strong desire to only make changes that are confirmed by the official club website - i don't really see the need for that, especially when the official site is so slack when it comes to updating the reserve/academy sections (example - the club confirmed a couple of weeks ago they'd offered pro deals to a few of the academy graduates, so there's no reason why these shouldn't now be added to the reserve squad, but the official site haven't got round to doing so yet.) - NickOGS20

[edit] 40 & 41

Anything I submit will inevitably be deleted so I will direct you to United's club page on uefa.com, where you'll find two new squad numbers listed JPMJPMJPM 21:40, 14 September 2007 (UTC)

Looks pretty official, but would you mind if we waited until the new numbers were confirmed by the club themselves? - PeeJay 22:10, 14 September 2007 (UTC)
Looks even more official now, but unless he gets on, this is not sufficient as evidence, no? Excuse me if I am not familiar with every clause and subclause of your rulebook. JPMJPMJPM 19:18, 26 September 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Rhain Davies

Well? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 124.184.156.108 (talk) 16:40, 22 December 2007 (UTC)

Well what? Rhain Davis is not in the Manchester United Academy. – PeeJay 16:48, 22 December 2007 (UTC)

What is the deal with him anyway, is he "signed" to Manchester United for the future? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 58.168.94.143 (talk) 10:25, 5 March 2008 (UTC)

He's currently training with the club's Under-10s, IIRC, and due to his age, he can't move to another club for a few years. – PeeJay 10:49, 5 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Notable former Academy and Youth Team players

I believe this section could do with trimming, as I'd argue against the notability of some of the listed players. However, rather than just doing it, can we come to some sort of consensus on who to include? Darkson (Yabba Dabba Doo!) 10:47, 10 March 2008 (UTC)

I see no real reason to trim this personally - all of the retired players on there certainly merit inclusion for their achievements, while the vast majority of current players listed have played/are playing at the highest level in club football and/or are full internationals. Of the few that don't meet this criteria (and I believe we're talking 3/4 at most), the likes of Blake and Shawcross have been recently voted as among the very strongest players outside the Premier League in England and (in the latter's case) have recieved under 21 honours for their country. Nick OGS20 —Preceding unsigned comment added by 79.67.123.204 (talk) 22:47, 1 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Cameron Stewart

Have reverted his nationality to English, couldn't fit an explanation into the edit summary box so i'll put it here - Stewart is English but qualifies for Scotland via a parent/grandparent. He has recently been named in Scotland under-17 squads but hasn't taken up the invitation to join up with them, instead preferring to continue representing England at that level (and indeed he played for England u17's last week, check www.thefa.com for details). - NickOGS20 23:55, 1 April 2008 (UTC)

OK, I've changed Stewart's nationality back to English, as I reverted a big edit a few mins ago. However, I couldn't find any evidence that Tom Cleverley or Chris Fagan are officially in the Reserves, or that anyone named Joshua King or Oliver Brady were in the club's youth squads. – PeeJay 23:07, 1 April 2008 (UTC)

Hi. I'll copy over what I just wrote on your talk page, save me typing it again:

Re: Reserves & Academy Edits:

Edit 1 - Tom Cleverley being added to the reserve squad. Cleverley is the current United reserves captain whilst Kieran Lee is out on loan. A quick check of the match reports on the official site will show he has been practically an ever-present in the last few months. He has also yesterday been nominated by the United reserves coaching staff for the Reserve Player of the Year Award, as shown on this page of the official website - [1]. Surely being nominated for that suggest he is a member of the reserve team squad?

Edit 2 - Chris Fagan being added to the reserve squad. Proof - [2]. Again, a quick read through a few match reports in the reserve section of the official site will confirm Fagan is a member of the reserve squad.

Edit 3 - Cameron Stewart's nationality being reverted to English - please see the explanation on the discussion section of the Reserves/Academy page.

Edit 4 - adding Joshua King and Robert Brady to the future scholars section. If you want to do away with the future scholars section then fine, but if not, I fail to see why these two can't be added. both players were relatively high-profile acquisitions (as far as youth players go) in January, they will be taken on on scholarships this summer and information on their acquisitions and presence at the club is easily available via google. Brady played for the reserve team last week, King for the under 18's on Saturday morning. Again with the greatest of respect, and this applies for the above edits too, this is pretty basic stuff and information I'd expect someone taking responsibility for moderating this page to have some knowledge of, or at least attempt to investigate before dismissing as incorrect. - NickOGS20 00:18 2 April 2008 —Preceding comment was added at 23:18, 1 April 2008 (UTC)