Talk:Manchester City Centre

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This article contains content that is duplicated in the Manchester page. I think there is a good case for merging the two and redirecting this one Manchester City Centre to the Manchester page which is more developed. What do people think? Bornslippy 12:57, 19 Jul 2004 (UTC)

I agree. PJBeef 16:01 28 December 2004 (UTC)

I also agree. Some of the content is already duplicated, or can be moved into existing sections on the Manchester page. Perhaps any remaining information could be added as a new 'Manchester City Centre' sub-section on the Manchester page. --David Edgar 08:23, 11 Jan 2005 (UTC)
I disagree. Some of the information here is too much for the main Manchester page. The City Centre is an official district of Manchester - it unusually appears as a named location on OS maps as "City Centre". There should be some information about this area on the main Manchester page, but then the detailed stuff should be kept here in the seperate City Centre article. David 08:28, 15 September 2005 (UTC)
I think there's been quite a lot of additions to Manchester since I last commented, and it probably is sensible to keep this page now.
Manchester#Political Divisions provides a list of all the wards in the city - the City Centre ward, I believe, being the official district you refer to. Can we establish that this page should be limited to the geographical area of the ward? --David Edgar 10:25, 15 September 2005 (UTC)
I believe that despite the duplicated content, it is necessary to allow Manchester City Centre a distinct page, as it is a seperate political and administrative entity. Likewise, it is also important that the page on 'Manchester' detail all of the relavent information on the conurbation of Manchester. Manchester as a city has grown well beyond it's administrative boundaries, and this is reflected in the attitudes of

1. Foreign and National impressions of 'Manchester' 2. National Press 3. The office of national statistics 4. Manchester institutions and companies The fact that the administrative boundaries of Manchester enclose only a portion of the living city is becoming as irrelevant as the fact that it is the same for the cities of London and indeed Westminster.

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[edit] More photos!

Come on guys - get some more photos of Manchester uploaded and added to this page and the Manchester main article. David 15:33, 24 November 2005 (UTC)

[edit] POV tag

Sounds like advertisements to the City Centre. Skinnyweed 22:52, 30 April 2006 (UTC)

I had a good look through and I could see. So! I removed eevrything which sounded like an advert and in some cases, replaced it with a neutral sentence. - Erebus555 20:40, 6 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] OK!

Hi, anyone fancy building a series on Manchester city centre? I think it could be really good for people new to the city and those who already live here to discover how great this place is. I work in the city centre so am planning to spend a bit of time taking pics of areas. I don't know how to make one of those "series" boxes, so could someone help? I think that following the rather good city centre divisions on the tourist map the council gives out would help, so here they are;

1. Manchester Arndale and Market Street 2. Deansgate, King Street and St Anns square 3. Peter's fields 4. Chinatown 5. Exhange square and new cathedral street 6. Northern Quarter 7. Piccadilly 8. Castlefield 9. The gay village 10. Spinningfields

I also propose the addition to this of Oxford Road/Manchester University.

These 11 areas would cover the city centre. Salford would have its own page, maybe with a link in the series box.

Can anyone help? I don't know how to change the template. --Totalthinker 22:56, 1 June 2006 (UTC)

First of all, I'm not sure what template you're talking about changing, but you can make a template by setting one up at Template:Whatever, making a table on that page, and then adding {{Whatever}} to this page. If you're confident enough to do this yourself, help is at Help:Template or Help:Table - otherwise you could always use a table that exists, copy its edit mode text and then paste and edit it on the new template's page.
There are already several articles on the places you mention, such as Northern Quarter, Piccadilly Gardens, Market Street (Manchester, England), Manchester Arndale, Canal Street (Manchester), Castlefield, Exchange Square (Manchester); but not on others, notably: Chinatown and St. Ann's Square - though I'm slightly dubious about making pages on areas that are just used in marketing literature (I've barely heard of Spinningfields but am dubious of Peter's fields - though I'm ahppy to be proved wrong). In any case, it would be easy to at least create a list on this page (if you're not comfortable enough to make a table/template) - however, most are there already, so a template sounds like a good addition. Overall, great to see some enthusiasm for this page - and your photos would be most welcome :-) Cheers. Cormaggio @ 08:16, 2 June 2006 (UTC)


[edit] Chinatown

On this page it says that Chinatown in Manchester is the biggest in Europe, on the Chinatown page it says that it is the second largest in the UK after the one in London. Which is correct? ~~CD

Dunno things get worst. Think the largest dragon arch outside main land china still stands. china town biggest in europe oh no. A large area devoted to chinese business etc. Manchester does hold the title of the largest collection of free municipal lending library books written in chinese in europe complete with a chinese library. Mike33 13:30, 1 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Merge proposal

I see from the discussion above that merging this article with the Manchester article has been considered before, in 2005, when opinion seemed to be fairy evenly divided.

I'm proposing the merger again now for a number of reasons:

  • The Manchester article has vastly improved in the meantime, and clearly has a great deal of overlap with this one.
  • This article is not being maintained: there are requests for citations dating back to March of this year.
  • The History section is just a stub referring to the Manchester article.
  • Much of the material looks like like an advertisement for the city centre.

--Malleus Fatuarum 17:10, 18 October 2007 (UTC)

I oppose the merge as this article should be a more precise and detailed account of the city centre area of Manchester, in the same way that other districts of the city have their own articles. David 17:14, 18 October 2007 (UTC)
Support: Sorry, I forgot to add what is probably obvious anyway. As the nominator of this merger proposal, I'm strongly in favour of it. --Malleus Fatuarum 18:32, 18 October 2007 (UTC)
Oppose: I totally agree with Malleus that the quality of the article is poor; futher shown by the recent rocketting of strength in the Manchester article. However, I do think there is more than enough scope to keep and vastly expand (and thereby improve) this article. Furthermore, at a quick glad we do have Belfast City Centre, Bristol city centre, Newport city centre, Leicester City Centre and Sheffield City Centre. Surely the Gtr Mcr WikiProject can aid us in improving this article and keep a step ahead of the other cities? -- Jza84 · (talk) 22:47, 18 October 2007 (UTC)
Oppose I agree that this article could be better, but the city centre should have an article just as Ardwick, Ancoats, C-on-M etc do. Mr Stephen 11:49, 19 October 2007 (UTC)
Oppose This article is a total mess but it is useful to have one about the city centre district as there are population figures published for it. I think this article should head in the direction of the economy i.e. focus on business, maybe merge some/all of Spinningfields into it? I get the impression from the article that it is supposed to be the central business district of the Manchester borough and it should focus directly onto that. I do think that suggesting the merge will spur interest in the article which is great! It doesn't need to be a huge article and could easily be overhauled. A detailed map of the boundries of the city would be great so we know what we can and can't include. └and-rew┘┌talk┐ 13:01, 19 October 2007 (UTC)

OK, I can see that I'm thrashing a dead horse with this merger proposal, so I'll withdraw it. Doesn't mean that I don't still believe that this article ought to be merged of course. :) --Malleus Fatuarum 22:03, 22 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] WikiProject class rating

This article was automatically assessed because at least one WikiProject had rated the article as start, and the rating on other projects was brought up to start class. BetacommandBot 05:55, 10 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Five star hotel

I'm pretty sure that it's inaccurate to describe the Lowry as 'Manchester's first five-star hotel'. I think that the Midland was a five star rating when it opened but was subsequently downgraded. I've not checked for an online reference for this, but there was an illuminating documentary on Channel 4 about the Midland a couple of months ago. The same may apply for other hotels too, I don't know (the downgrading, rather than the documentary!). --Benwilson528 (talk) 11:18, 11 April 2008 (UTC)