Talk:Manadel al-Jamadi

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[edit] Wording

"Died during interrogation at Abu Ghraib prison". Now that's a nice way to put it... GregorB 20:46, May 17, 2005 (UTC)

As I commented above, the initial intro of this article read "died during interrogation at Abu Ghraib prison". Back then, I changed it to "tortured to death during interrogation at Abu Ghraib prison". Now it's "thought to have been tortured to death".

I find it still a bit too weasely. The article documents well that he was indeed tortured to death, as confirmed by multiple witness accounts, and further backed by authopsy findings. There is nothing uncertain nor unclear about this, nor there is a reasonable alternative explanation of his death - at least none that is mentioned in the article. Therefore, I'm changing it back to the prior wording. GregorB 17:48, 21 October 2006 (UTC)


I had to change it to the "tortured to death part" 68.147.221.49 18:48, 10 November 2006 (UTC)sammyG


I dislike the wording "...tortured to death..." in the opening line, as I believe that represents a statement of opinion. If it's a statement of fact, can someone point me to an external source, where a neutral source established that he was in fact "tortured to death", and not simply "was killed as a result of repeated beatings and a Palestinian hanging"? I see the "tortured to death" line (especially in the opening line of the article) lending itself to a potential NPOV tag unless it's backed up with external sources. UUbuntu 04:15, 24 January 2007 (UTC)

I just restored the previous "tortured to death" wording. I believe the text of the article itself fully supports this, as I explained above (21 October 2006 comment). GregorB 15:52, 12 June 2007 (UTC)
UUbuntu, i would say "tortured to death", and "was killed as a result of repeated beatings and a Palestinian hanging" were synonymous. particlularly in the context of interrogation--Mongreilf (talk) 22:03, 7 May 2008 (UTC)