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Masada2000

Thanks for the wonderful editing work you did on this article. It's very strong. I'm going right now to visit the Abu El Haj article since it's also one I'm interested in. It is hard to keep articles about Israel-Palestine from veering into propaganda.

BTW, sometime when you have a chance I hope you'll take a look at my Israel-Palestine peace blog, Tikun Olam Richard (talk) 11:12, 2 February 2008 (UTC)

Beyt Tikkun

I've tagged it for deletion due to lack of notability. FYI.... Bstone (talk) 22:34, 5 February 2008 (UTC)

Thank you, I appreciate your edits. Culturalrevival (talk) 18:51, 6 February 2008 (UTC)
Are you actually saying that an editorial piece written by the leader of this congregation can be used and referenced in the article? It violates many policies and guidelines and is absolutely improper to keep in the article. Any editor would remove it without a second thought. Bstone (talk) 18:53, 6 February 2008 (UTC)
If they are in the middle of editing they should add the various tags to the article such as inuse or holdon. Otherwise I will be WP:BOLD. I don't appreciate your accusation of disruption. I will continue to mercilessly edit articles, especially those which are poorly sourced, not notable and seem to be advertisements/political statements. Bstone (talk) 19:05, 6 February 2008 (UTC)
Simply adding an inuse tag does not mean the article is immune from editing by other editors. Saying it is disruption does not mean it is. I urge you to step back and think this through. Perhaps take a break. You've called me a dick, disruptive and now threatened everyone with being disruptive if they dare edit the article. A bit concerning. Bstone (talk) 19:37, 6 February 2008 (UTC)

I see you removed the expert help request tag from the Beyt Tikkun article. I am a little miffed why you did this. This tag requests help for the article and might save it from being deleted. Care to explain? Bstone (talk) 23:52, 6 February 2008 (UTC)

Lists of porn stars

I don't mind red links so long as they're sourced. WP:BLP requires that we don't call people porn actors unless we have a good source for the info. The simplest way of making sure a list is sourced is to require that entries have articles, but it's also possible to source each entry individually. ·:· Will Beback ·:· 06:07, 6 February 2008 (UTC)

Sure, I'd think video covers would be a source, though there are other problems with using those. There are a couple of websites that have databases of movies and actresses. ·:· Will Beback ·:· 06:38, 6 February 2008 (UTC)

Thanks

Thank you for your help, Malik. Honestly, I don't know how you keep up on everything. I'm glad to see that there is room for forgiveness and repentance in Wikipedia, as I was getting frustrated and had considered giving up. --Email4jonathan (talk) 22:47, 6 February 2008 (UTC)

Maurice Princet

WOW! Nice job. -- Avi (talk) 07:11, 7 February 2008 (UTC)

Thanks

Thanks for starting Maurice Princet. Some time ago I noticed him in Actuary, and did some research and minor preparatory editing on Section d'Or -- and then got distracted by somethiing else (a WP hazard!). You've obviously put some effort into it, well done!
--NSH001 (talk) 18:59, 7 February 2008 (UTC)

Nice Job of Copy Editing Martin Luther King, Jr.

I was slightly timid about adding information to such an important entry, Martin Luther King, Jr.. I was glad to see the clean up you did hoping that some of the shepherds of that entry would weigh in. One of our students pursuing a PhD in African American Studies (I'm a librarian) was poo-pooing wikipedia because she noted the lack of Howard Thurman as an early influence. I did some quick research (finding the Thurman entry), made the entry, ran it by her to see if their are any egregious errors, then posted. She is now VERY impressed with wikipedia and I am recruiting her to become a wikipedian. - Quartermaster (talk) 03:52, 8 February 2008 (UTC)

King authorship issues

I posted this on the talk page of the King authorship issues:

POV edits by Malik Shabazz I've noticed on many of the entries of African American figures, Malik Shabaz is making POV edits without any rationale. His overriding motive seems to be--How dare you say anything that might be critical of an African American person in Wikipedia. I added some short text from Rev Carey's 1952 address to the Republican Convention to allow a comparison between Carey's words and King's in his 1963 speech. Try and find this anywhere else on the web. Also, I added a short entry on a 1905 speech by African American author and essayist Charles Chesnutt, which King was most likely well aware of from his reseach, to show striking similarities between Chesnutt's and King's speeches. Both these additions showed factual integrity. Shabaz summarily deleted them without any compelling rationale. Can anyone keep an eye on this person and watch his predatory editing. Thanks. Rosspz (talk) 14:35, 9 February 2008 (UTC)rosspz

Can you please tell me what your deal is????? Rosspz (talk) 14:35, 9 February 2008 (UTC)rosspz

Joseph Massad

I've posted to the talk page of Joseph Massad. I'd appreciate your comments.

I also, FYI put an entry for the article into the WP:BLP report page asking for outside comment, because while it looks like various users, particularly yourself, have been doing good work, thanks to the conflict the article remains a total mess and could use some outside intervention.

Kalkin (talk) 03:24, 10 February 2008 (UTC)

Maurice Princet DYK

Updated DYK query On 11 February 2008, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Maurice Princet, which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

--BorgQueen (talk) 12:12, 11 February 2008 (UTC)

Cheers

The RickK Anti-Vandalism Barnstar
For furiously fighting the foul foolishness flung at our feet. – Scartol • Tok 02:04, 12 February 2008 (UTC)

Cornel West

I'd just like to thank you for the tireless way you've been working on Cornel West for POV and other issues. I've been watching it ever since I did some work on it, and I constantly see your name pop up! Kakofonous (talk) 00:33, 13 February 2008 (UTC)

You can delete...

the category but I read of this 'African American diaspora' in two books...Moving on:Black Loyalists and Epic Journey by Cassandra Pybus. It is a relatively new term but if you believe it is unecessary you should delete. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Wikiaddict8962 (talk • contribs) 22:24, 13 February 2008 (UTC)

Hey!

Hello, Malik! :) Just letting you know that I did reply to your comment on my talk page. --Grrrlriot (talk) 00:06, 14 February 2008 (UTC)

Freedman

Hi Malik. The copyright tag basically says that the picture is sourced from the Knesset website, and it is assumed that permission is given to use such photos in encyclopedia articles; obviously Betacommandbot is not active on he.wiki :) пﮟოьεԻ 57 22:32, 14 February 2008 (UTC)

WP:3RR

Don't forget.I will report to administrator any attempt of you to undo.Oren.tal (talk) 23:13, 15 February 2008 (UTC)

Thank you

Hello! Thank you for correcting the Jessie Davis Page. I am new to posting on Wiki thought I have been an avid reader for a long time. I am unsure of how to do anything on the main pages and do not want to mess them up! I thought it would be safer for me to just do what I did! Have a great day! Tiffany —Preceding unsigned comment added by Tnertle (talk • contribs) 03:06, 17 February 2008 (UTC)

Sources and notability added

Hi Malik: Shavua Tov: I have spent some time improving the two articles currently up for deletion. The Adas Israel Congregation and Adath Jeshurun Congregation articles, now renamed Adas Israel Congregation (Duluth) and Adath Jeshurun Congregation (Minnetonka) to differentiate them from other similar sounding congregations elsewhere, are now a full articles. They meet all criteria for such articles. I also wish to point out that this is proof of what can and should be done to improve stubs. Merely because someone has started a stub does not mean that the article of a place/person/event are "not notable" since not all people have the time and capability of working to improve such articles. There is no statute of limitations on how long a stub deemed to be significant can exist and it is certainly no reason to invoke reasons to eliminate them, otherwise why do we have stubs in the first place? It is requested that the nominations be withdrawn! Please look into this. Sincerely, IZAK (talk) 11:09, 17 February 2008 (UTC)

Edits to Ponzi scheme article

Hi, I'm the one who added the Social Security example. No it's not personal analysis; I provided a reference. By contrast, those who assert that Social Security is not being run like a Ponzi scheme have failed to provide references. Perhaps you should try to improve that argument instead of deleting the arguments you don't like.

To help you I've added a new reference to a New York Sun article about an analysis of Social Security done by Moody Investment services. If you don't want people to read about analysis by Moody then you're seriously compromising the neutrality of the article. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.231.68.47 (talk) 19:30, 17 February 2008 (UTC)

Follow-up with creator of Minnesota synagogues stubs

Hi Malik: You may be interested to know that I have contacted User Grika (talk · contribs) who was the editor who originally created all the stub articles about synagogues in Minnesota that have now become the focal point of much debate, and he, as creator of the stubs has neither responded, participated nor defended himself in any discussions AFAIK. Please see User talk:Grika#Requesting your attention. Feel free to add your comments. Thanks, IZAK (talk) 09:44, 18 February 2008 (UTC)

User boxes

Dear Malik,

Thanks for the edits on my user box collection just now. It's the first time anyone has shown any visible interest. But as those boxes were your's in the past, I understand it. I forget how I got to you, probably thru mutual editing. Bellagio99 (talk) 00:22, 19 February 2008 (UTC)

Then, it's thanks x 2. Thanks for the original creation -- you'll note that Emma has pride of place at the top of my column -- and for being thoughtful enough to make the change for me too. Am I on your watchlist, or does your change just propagate thru the system? There are many coding things in WP I don't understand. You'll note that I give you credit: indeed, you're the second one I borrowed from. Bellagio99 (talk) 01:49, 19 February 2008 (UTC)

Thank you for your imput on Nadia Abu El Haj

Thanks for your imput. I totally agree that ethnicity should not be put into the lead sentence of this article. I hate to escalate this point but it might be necessary. --70.109.223.188 (talk) 14:31, 19 February 2008 (UTC)

Charlie Parker

Hi Malik, I appreciate the time you've spent keeping the Charlie Parker article on the up and up. The links I have been posting are certainly of interest and relevance for anyone wishing to attain a deeper familiarity with the man and his music. The links are in line with other links along the same line on the page. I would appreciate your not blocking them since they are relevant and beneficial to people reading the article Thanks---- BlazeFelton —Preceding unsigned comment added by BlazeFelton (talk • contribs) 00:37, 20 February 2008 (UTC)

Charlie Parker

Hello again. There are several mentions of commercial products on this page (and I daresay Wikipedia has thousands of articles on commercial products as well) Since we agree that the links serve the interest of the readers, I really do not see the point in disallowing this link while allow similar links on the very same page. I respectfully ask that the links be included as relvant and useful and informative to the readers. ThanksBlazeFelton (talk) 00:52, 20 February 2008 (UTC)

Gary Coleman

Thank you for your insightful email about my edit to the Gary Coleman page. I completely disagree with you that my edit could be considered vandalism as the facts were completely substantiated.

Please refrain from contacting me. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 209.217.86.26 (talk) 16:48, 22 February 2008 (UTC)

Tawana Brawley rape allegations

Hi Malik

Could you take a look at this article, the lead in particular. I recall the case being far more contentious and complicated than the one sided "hoax" meme that the article was portraying a few rounds ago. I've added some well sourced balance to the lead, while keeping intact the findings of the grand jury, the defamation case etc, other than copy editing the quote farm that the lead had been turned into. I also corrected a subhead which had read "maintaining innocence" subhead which was a BLP faux pas, since she has not been found guilty (I recall one commentator who had documented how many times the media had referred to her as "the defendant"). There's a low level edit skirmish now with an editor who wants to maintain the unipolar "hoax" meme. An outside look would be appreciated. thanks. Boodlesthecat (talk) 04:49, 28 February 2008 (UTC)

Thanks; I'll see if the editor comes around to a collaborative approach rather than slash and burn. Doesnt seem that anyone is really watching this article, so yeah, if it continues I'll head over to the BLP board. Thanks,Boodlesthecat (talk) 05:08, 28 February 2008 (UTC)

To someone who is very deserving

The Special Barnstar
For defending editors (especially new ones) who are sometimes picked on by others. Eustress (talk) 00:39, 7 March 2008 (UTC)

Now that I have learned how to give awards, I want you to be the first one I give one to. Keep up the good work!

Sources for racism in drug laws

Dear Malik, you seem to have a good knowledge in racism and specially regarding the American history. I'm trying to improve the article Arguments for and against drug prohibition which badly lacks sources. Do you know one which states that the drug laws themselves and their enforcement are racist? --mms (talk) 17:15, 8 March 2008 (UTC)

Thanks a lot for these exactly fitting sources. Since there are now 5 sources for 4 sentences, the section isn't removed, yet. --mms (talk) 01:43, 12 March 2008 (UTC)

DC Meetup on May 17th

Your help is needed in planning Wikipedia:Meetup/DC 4! Any comments or suggestions you have are greatly appreciated. The Placebo Effect (talk) 19:55, 8 March 2008 (UTC)

Lehi (group)

The parties involved in the edit war on Lehi (group) don't seem to have made any edits to the debate since December. Can the edit protection be removed? - TheMightyQuill (talk) 17:55, 10 March 2008 (UTC)

SSP case

I am just writing to inform you that BGMNYC has renewed his accusation that you and I are sockpuppets at his SSP case. I feel as though raising such concerns on the SSP board (even in a complaint about oneself) requires notice, but I assume he would not give you any, so I have done so. Regards. --Cheeser1 (talk) 09:09, 12 March 2008 (UTC)

Jewish self hate

Dear Malik Shabazz,

I have taken some change to the phrasing of "Jewish Self Hate". Please note that the term is used in Jewish communities worldwide, and not as was written solely in US and UK. Also, note that no critics of Israel, as such, are being termed "self-hatred". Only those actively involved in very harsh, and de-legitimizing activities against Israel. Further, saying that writers and activists are accused ...."solely because of their political views" is disputable and belongs to further sections.

Best regards, Elad Afek, Israel —Preceding unsigned comment added by Elad Afek (talk • contribs) 12:41, 12 March 2008 (UTC)

Re: Template:African American ethnicity

Please take part in the discussion I've started here as I seek consensus to make the appropriate changes. Thanks. FEastman (talk) 14:37, 13 March 2008 (UTC)

Re: Self Hating Jews

Dear Malik Shabazz,

1. It seems that you might have skipped accidentally one of the sources of the article:

Theodor(e) Lessing's tract “Jewish Self-Hatred” (Nativ (Hebrew: translated from German), 17 (96), 1930/2004, pp. 49-54 (Das Judische Selbsthaas, 1930)).

This source was already published in Pre-Nazi Germany, by Lessing, who was a Jewish philosopher. Thus, it is clear that the phrase "self-hating Jew" is used already in other Jewish communities around the world. If you like, you can say "in the US, UK and Pre-Nazi Germany"; but I think it's better to say "in other Jewish communities in the world".

2. In Israel, where I live, 99% of the Jewish population is "critical" of Israel (one doesn't like the tax policies, other the bad traffic, others the government expences, the anti-religion movements, the policy in the west-bank, the pull-out from Gaza strip, and so forth). Nevertheless, no one of these 99% Jews are called "self-hating" solely because of this criticism. As the *source* due to Lessing describes, self-hate is only attributed to pathological hate, and today to those who *delegitimize* Israel (gently saying, they are "severe critics"). Saying otherwise is contradictory to the usage of the phrase. Hence, the phrase '..solely because of their political views' is misleading.

Best wishes, Elad Afek Israel —Preceding unsigned comment added by Elad Afek (talk • contribs) 15:04, 13 March 2008 (UTC)

Notifying of move to Wikipedia:Notability (criminal acts)

Per comments on the talk page, I have moved the guideline into project space for wider discussion. Just letting you know as a contributor to this page. I attempted to tighten the notability criteria based on your comments, and would apprecaite any feedback you can offer Fritzpoll (talk) 16:19, 15 March 2008 (UTC)

Joseph Massad

thanks for stopping by when it got hairy...Boodlesthecat (talk) 23:38, 15 March 2008 (UTC)

W.E.B. Du Bois

I want to ask your opinoin. An annon made this addition on the talk page about a week ago: Talk:W.E.B. Du Bois#Garvey conflict with dubois needs to be in here. How do you think it should be included/ or do you think it should be at all? Yahel Guhan 19:37, 16 March 2008 (UTC)

Ultimate escape from ambiguity

"I set up similar pages for Shemot, Vayikra, Bamidbar and Devarim, and I redirected all the Hebrew transliterations that previously went to the English-language names to the new disambiguation pages." — Malik Shabazz (talk · contribs) 23:27, 25 February 2008 (UTC) Retrieved from "http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Judaism/Archive_20"

When someone desires to know the spelling of a Hebrew word it is difficult to get this from constructs that attempt to Englishify the word. For instance, BRASYT is useful, Berasheis etc, which attempts to add vowels, isn't. Please consider using a simple consistent system to help persons who want to use a Heb./Eng dictionary. That is, offer the unleavened version also. Say
A B G D H W Z C Tt
Y K L M N Sm Ay P Ts
Q R S T Kf Mf Nf Pf Tsf
(f) could be left out with no ambiguity. Thanks for your consideration.Johnshoemaker (talk) 13:17, 18 March 2008 (UTC)

New policy proposal that may be of interest

I'm tapping this message out to you because you were involved at the AfDs of Eve Carson or Lauren Burk. Following both of these heated debates, a new proposal has been made for a guideline to aid these contentious debates, which can be found at WP:N/CA. There is a page for comments at Wikipedia talk:Notability (criminal acts)/Opinions should you wish to make a comment. Thanks for your time, and apologies if this was not of interest! Fritzpoll (talk) 15:50, 19 March 2008 (UTC) PS. looks like you've already contributed to this guideline anyway

Barnstar

The Working Man's Barnstar
For your hard work fixing and improving African American related articles, I award you this barnstar. Yahel Guhan 01:02, 20 March 2008 (UTC)

Personal attack?

That may have been a personal attack, but bigots don't get worse than that vandal. Tourskin (talk) 03:23, 21 March 2008 (UTC)

Lol, point taken. Sorry. Tourskin (talk) 04:33, 21 March 2008 (UTC)
However, I have comented on the content - it was very poorly worded for one. But yes, no personal attacks...Tourskin (talk) 04:34, 21 March 2008 (UTC)

Title of Israel, Palestinians and the United Nations being debated again

Hello Malik, six months ago you debated the title of this article. You might be interested to know that this debate has been re-opened (not by me) in the talk page of the article. Emmanuelm (talk) 12:55, 26 March 2008 (UTC)

New antisemitism mediation

Heya Malik Shabazz.

I would first like to apologise on behalf of the Mediation Committee for the delay in this case being dealt with, which is due to a shortage of available mediators. I have expressed interest in taking this case to help with the backlog and to assess my nomination to join the committee. As i am not currently a member it is common practice to for the involved parties to consent to mediation of an RfM from a non-committee member. To give your consent for me to act as mediator for this case please sign as you have for the acceptance of the case on the case page. I look forward to working with you and finding a solution to the dispute.

Seddon69 (talk) 16:50, 31 March 2008 (UTC)