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Jewish Socialists Group

Thanks for doing that edit and making the links right. I had been meaning to get around to it... BobFromBrockley 17:26, 3 May 2007 (UTC)

PBGC

Oh, wow. I was researching it for a project, and that's how the college text book has it spelled, so i thought maybe someone just made an honest mistake. I guess The Ohio State University needs some better books! Sorry, but it was in good faith, I assure you. Thanks for letting me know. - hmwithtalk 23:43, 4 May 2007 (UTC)

No worries. You too! - hmwithtalk 05:38, 5 May 2007 (UTC)

women who wear kippot

OK, OK, maybe there are women from the Conservative movement who wear a kippah, but again this is only in shul, instead of a hat. They don't walk around with one outside, or keep it in their pocketbooks, ready to pull out when they make a bracha. In that sense, kippah wearing is different for women, so maybe the sentence should be "some ladies wear kippot in the synagogue instead of the traditional lace doily...." LOL--Gilabrand 16:39, 8 May 2007 (UTC)

Charles Fort

Just following up on your comments on the entry's talk page. I agree it needs a bit of a tidy and have done some work reorganising things. I haven't done the final separation along the lines you suggest (as I thought I'd leave that to you as you've got a good grasp of things) but it is tidier and the whole entry works a bit better - I hope ;) (Emperor 13:06, 10 May 2007 (UTC))

Sorry, but I got quite angry with that er.. tabloid?

I can see everybody can put a load of shit on my country with no chance to defend. My family lost several members during WWII and now I should just shut up? I live in Cracov and I can see lots of young, arrogant Israeli youngsters... Why are they such persons? Maybe this kind of shitty paper have some influence on them. Stay calm as I try. Michał —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 212.2.101.27 (talk) 17:24, 10 May 2007 (UTC).

Sabeel

I will hold out on the denominational thing until I find direct sources... but I have to say your taking out the section headers by reason of "length" confuses me. It is better to be long and readable than long and unreadable. I am going to add back in the section headers for now. MPS 21:08, 10 May 2007 (UTC)

PS are you this guy??? If so I think you ought to start the Black Lawyers for Justice article. MPS 17:30, 11 May 2007 (UTC)

"African American"

It was NOT vandalism. I am new to editing Wikipedia and due to that, when I changed certain words they ended up being links rather than text. Furthermore, the term "African American" is ignorant and a definite misnomer when applied to descendents of African slaves who arrived in the country a significant time BEFORE the Civil War which is an obvious reason why the argument that "African American" is parallel to "German American" since those who call themselves "German American" are almost always descendents of immigrants who came here a significant amount of time AFTER the Civil War. Furthermore, the label "African American" does not point to a specific country as "German American" does, but a large continent full of dozens of countries, many different peoples who speak many different languages, with loads of different skin colors, hair textures, facial features and cultural traits. "African American" applies to someone who has significant cultural ties to Africa. Usually someone with parents or grandparents from Africa refer to themselves this way, or specifically by their country of origin. However, since nationalities mix, it is often simpler to say "African American" rather than "Nigerian-Cameroonian-Ghanian-American". Black Americans, on the other hand, are Americans who are Black. If you aren't going to refer to White Americans as European-Americans consistently, then don't take the liberty of hyphenated the nationality of a group of people who have been in this country, built this country, and fought in wars for this country since the 16th century. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by PortiaPhillips (talk • contribs) 07:05, 12 May 2007 (UTC).

RE: AFRICAN AMERICAN:

Absolutely. Wikipedia is NOT a soapbox. HOWEVER, the fact that some have CHOSEN to use the label "African American" does not mean that it is the correct term. That being said, I feel that it needs to be edited to correctly define who exactly is being explained---and since the article is not about African Americans (immigrants from Africa who are not American citizens), the terminology is not correct---which I explained above. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by PortiaPhillips (talk • contribs) 11:26, 12 May 2007 (UTC).

"African American"

Again, you have not offered any information that proves that "African American" is the proper term to use in reference to the population in question. That being the case, using the term in the article as the heading and to refer to Americans of African slave descent is no more valid that using the term Black American. What exactly makes you feel that changing misnomer to one that is correct equates to vandalism or soapboxing? The fact that the heading uses "African American" is no more (possible less) accurate that using the term Black American. If you are not presenting FACTS, than anything you write or say is also based on your personal opinions and therefore equates to using the encyclopedia to further your own agenda. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by PortiaPhillips (talk • contribs) 22:15, 12 May 2007 (UTC).

those liberal conservatives...

Hi, nice to meet you (so to speak). I also made some changes in the Criticism of Cons J article. Feel free to edit etc. When are you, or whoever, going to decide about merging or not? Aleichem shalom, HG | Talk 01:39, 15 May 2007 (UTC)

Conservative

Your attempts at shrouding your contempt have failed. I would assert that you are acting outside the boundaries of good faith. My comments were directly related to the article and the augmentations with which I have been involved. Kindly keep your curt remarks off of my user page. DRosenbach (Talk | Contribs) 02:34, 16 May 2007 (UTC)

Literati

My bad there. I've never heard that used. Does the word have anything to do specifically with the Harlem Renaissance or am I just oblivious to a more generally-used term?

Image:Saint-barthelemy.png

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Eric Emerson back cover

Well, there are covers with the black sticker over Emerson and covers with Emerson airbrushed out. Do you have a preference of which cover to include? I don't know if using both would be overkill or not. (Small versions of both can be found here: [1]) Pele Merengue 08:55, 17 May 2007 (UTC)

Alright, I ended up simply using an edited version from the VU web page. There's a higher res image here, but it seems to be a much more recent pressing of the album (the earliest batch of editions were gatefold pressings with the tracklisting on the inside -- the larger image has the tracklisting on the back). I chose the smaller image simply for consistency. Pele Merengue 17:13, 17 May 2007 (UTC)

Talk:Conservative Judaism

With regards to your comments on Talk:Conservative Judaism: Please see Wikipedia's no personal attacks policy. Comment on content, not on contributors. Personal attacks damage the community and deter users. Note that continued personal attacks will lead to blocks for disruption. Please stay cool and keep this in mind while editing. Thank you. --Shirahadasha 03:47, 18 May 2007 (UTC)

Gun Control Act of 1968

I agree with some of the other editors at this article -- I don't see the point in "balancing" outrageous claims. I think the original claim has no merit. I don't care to be drawn into a game of refuting nonsense, so I'm leaving this article alone. Frankly, I'm starting to lose faith in Wikipedia because of cases like this. There seems to be no standard for judging whether a "source" is just propoganda. BTW, National Weapons Law gives a good summary of the law that the JPFO argues is the model for the Gun Control Act of 1968. MiFeinberg 15:56, 18 May 2007 (UTC)

Re: The Early Years

Thanks for the note! It is nice to get some positive feedback from time to time... Have a nice day. --PEJL 22:06, 21 May 2007 (UTC)

Hey, I'm trying to fix the formatting of the disambig page, but you are too quick for me, so I can't keep up. :-) If you can hold off on editing for a few minutes, I can get the existing content in line with WP:MOSDAB. Thanks in advance. --PEJL 22:25, 21 May 2007 (UTC)
Thanks, done. --PEJL 22:41, 21 May 2007 (UTC)

Wolpe

You know the old maxim "Absence of evidence does not mean evidence of absence". There was a time when there was no archeological "evidence" for the story of Esther and then they discovered that that the floor plan of Ahaserus's palace exactly matched the account in the bible. I understand that there is significant archeological evidence f rom Joshua and on. I wouldn't place quite so much trust in a science that rebuilds itself entirely every few years or so based on the discovery of a new pottery shard.

Nor is it correct that there is no archeological evidence for the Exodus. There is little evidence for the time based on Kings 2, but even an O could be comftorable saying Kings is inaccurate. Have you seen the History channel show Cracking the Exodus Code some interesting ideas there. And according to the story of the Exodus wiki page there is fragments of evidence for some elements of Exodus, It's just difficult to sort it into a coherent picture fitting with the exodus. In addition, a recent discovery found chariot wheels in the part of the red sea that would conform with the Exodus story. Archeologists are much hampered in their study of Egyptain archeology as the Egypt. Gov is terrified that they'll find evidence supporting Jewish rights to Israel. I'm afraid this is terribly incoherent since I'm in a rush. More later. Thanks for responding.Wolf2191 23:47, 21 May 2007 (UTC)

To continue, The Exodus is one of the basic tenets of Judaism. We are required to mention it once a day and to reenact it and pass it on to our children (incidentally our oral tradition is really quite good, consider the discovery of the Kohen gene).

If we are driven up against a wall only then do we explain things non-literally (Maimonides for instance says Balaams Ass was a vision) and certainly not to something as fundammental as the Exodus. This is why Wolpe's statement (for no tremendously strong reason as above) that the Exodus didn't occur is waay beyond the pale of traditional Judaism (IMHO Judaism at all ).

I find it funny that he should find the Egyptain record taking more authentic than our records and tradition. Of course he likely swallows the DH- Lock, Stock and Barrel (See my article The Amber Witch on that subject.

The Mayflower example is astounding as it actually works against him. Despite the fact Americans keep a holiday Thanksgiving celebrating the landing (like passover) and despite the fact that numbers of americans "came over on the Mayflower" We don't have a significant portion of the American population believing that they come from the Mayflower. (I realize the analogy is not perfect). We should have at least some remnant of a tradition for another origin story.

In addition (from someones blog) An alleged Punic inscription mentioned by the 6th century Byzantine historian Procopius which was said to have been made by Phoenicians who had fled Canaan long before and, he said, could be seen in his time.

We have it in Greek translation, and it read: ημεις εσμεν οι φευγοντες απο προσωπου Ιησου του ληστου υιου Ναυη. Which does indeed means something like "We are those who fled before the face of Joshua, the robber, the son of Nun."

Not definite evidence since it's rather late on but it does add weight to the Exodus story.Wolf2191 02:13, 22 May 2007 (UTC)

Fort Gadsden

Hi, Let's discuss it on the talk page. My only concern is that the article is using an obscure name where there are two more common names available for the same thing. See Wikipedia:Naming conventions (common names) --JW1805 (Talk) 01:33, 22 May 2007 (UTC)

Wikipedia:WikiProject African Diaspora

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--Sefringle 07:20, 22 May 2007 (UTC)

Middle East stub

The Israel stub is already a sub-category of the Middle East stub. One normally only places an article in the sub-category, not the sub-category and super-category. Jayjg (talk) 22:06, 25 May 2007 (UTC)

From what I can see, as much as they are undesirable, edit wars are a fact of Wikilife, regardless of the ideal, so, sadly, it wouldn't be accurate to say that they're not "normal". However, I haven't violated 3RR, if that's what you're implying; was that indeed, your implication? Jayjg (talk) 22:17, 25 May 2007 (UTC)

That's an odd kind of "fact". Can you show where I have reverted more than 3 times on those pages? Considering that I've edited most of them only 3 times in total, I should think it would be extremely difficult for me to do anything on them more than three times. Jayjg (talk) 22:27, 25 May 2007 (UTC)

Drummer cats

Hi, I've created the funk drummer cats per the well-established standard at WP:MUSCAT. If you think some of these musicians should be in other sub-categories of Cat:American drummers by genre as well, that's perfectly reasonable. Note that I already added Dennis Chambers to Cat:American jazz drummers as well as Cat:American funk drummers. But it's my belief that any P-Funk member should be findable starting at Cat:American funk musicians by instrument. Similar arguments apply to Jessica Cleaves: if you believe she should be in other genres, then she should be added to those other genres, not removed from a certainly-valid one. (I'm not familiar with Friends of Distinction.) Also, if you want to suggest some particular categories for me to create for any of these musicians, feel free to let me know. The WP:MUSCAT schema can be a little intimidating, but I'm experienced with it. Xtifr tälk 21:29, 30 May 2007 (UTC)

Cool, sounds like we have a plan, and like I say, don't hesitate to ask if you need help creating some of the cats to match the schema. And yes, I'm old enough to remember The Fifth Dimension; I'm old enough that I was glued to the TV during the first moon landing. :) Xtifr tälk 21:50, 30 May 2007 (UTC)

Your userpage

I suggest you move the table of contents box to the other side. That way at least the beginning of the text you wrote can still be viewed. It is kind of squished into being unreadable betwen the picture and the table of contents box. Another option is the {{TOChidden}} template.--Sefringle 07:07, 31 May 2007 (UTC)

User:1poomba1

I deleted my message on the user talk page. I assumed by your reverts, and not the time of your warning that s/he was continuing. Sorry. - Jeeny Talk 18:06, 31 May 2007 (UTC)

User warning

That user obviously knew very well what he was doing. It is typically something done by extreme-right wing Zionists, who will insert plain lies to make things look the way it is in their fantasy. A person deleting particularly *that* phrase knows very well what he is doing. It was intentional vandalism, not a 'test' or anything. Such destructive 'editors' should be given very little time until getting an indef block, if you ask me. --Rabbeinu 18:29, 2 June 2007 (UTC)

Re: African American culture

I'm actually a bot. ;) Seriously though, I was inspired. Besides it's like I know all of the stuff that's associated since it's my culture and I've been immersed in it most of my life. So it's just an issue of breaking out the google powers. The hard part is going to be fixing up all the other articles this one ties to. But if you're looking for something to do you can do a prose check on African American culture. Thanks. CJ 10:01, 3 June 2007 (UTC)

Civil rights page

Nice edits. I think you strengthened the article section by improving the tone while maintaining references to underlying causes of the riots. Thank you! --Knulclunk 15:52, 4 June 2007 (UTC)

Ralph Nader

Hi MalikShabazz, I could really use your help on the Nader article. I have added info, backed by notable sources. I have also used the talk page. User 71.139.18.27/Griot keeps revering. Please assist. Thank you. 76.166.123.129 19:39, 4 June 2007 (UTC)

International response to the Holocaust

Can you just reiterate the article problem at Talk:International response to the Holocaust? It's unclear what you'd like to see fixed. -- Kendrick7talk 22:15, 4 June 2007 (UTC)

OK, thanks. That's all I was looking for. -- Kendrick7talk 23:17, 4 June 2007 (UTC)

Re: P-Funk

You're welcome! InnocuousPseudonym 19:18, 10 June 2007 (UTC)

New Link to Their Eyes

Dear Mr. Shabazz,

I am a huge fan of Zora Neale Hurston. I hope you don't mind, but I added a link to GradeSaver's Note on Their Eyes. It has a really interesting section on Zora's participation (or not) in the Harlem Renaissance.

Anyways, I hope you will consider keeping my edit.

Lakeesha Rutherford

Hi there

I noticed you left an opinion on the afd for Allegations of Israeli apartheid could you take a look at the afd for Accusations_of_French_genocide_against_Algerians here [[2]] I would appreciate your opinion Bleh999 01:04, 27 June 2007 (UTC)

Watson Wyatt entry on Wikipedia

Kwoolgrove 09:31, 27 June 2007 (UTC) Dear Mr Shabazz, My name is Kate Woolgrove and I work for Watson Wyatt. We would like to update the entry that you have posted on Wikipedia as there are some small inaccuracies in the information. I was wondering if I was able to pass you a file would you mind slightly amending your entry. I did try before but accidentally destroyed some of your links as I am not a very proficient user of the system! If you are willing to do this could you please contact me on my work e-mail address kate.woolgrove@watsonwyatt.com and I will forward you a word file. Thanks. Kate

Jewish services

Please respond to my comment/question. Thank you. DRosenbach (Talk | Contribs) 03:32, 28 June 2007 (UTC)

your question about the August Wilson posting

Hi Malik, In answer to your questions about a sentence I wrote in the August Wilson posting- Yes, the neighborhood was mixed, and made up predominantly of Blacks, Jews, and Italians. Thanks,DM7