Talk:Malkavian

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The history of the clan is either wrong or incomplete. Circa 1997, all Malkavians recovered their Dementation, and only a few kept Domination (VtM 3rd Ed.).

Also, in the Malkavian book (First ed?) there is mention of Malkav in the Second City. Retconn? Or the article only refers to David's Hallucination? Tordek 03:57, 17 October 2005 (UTC)

[edit] "As a condition of joining the Camarilla..."

'As a condition of joining the Camarilla, the Malkavians agreed to forswear Dementation(...)

I'm not sure that that section is correct. I'm well read in this subject. PLEASE list a source for this. This sounds like a ST explination and not canon. Justin 20:26, 30 December 2005 (UTC)

It's innaccurate and certainly needs changing. I'll see what I can do with it when I have more time. Technically, the Malkavians didn't agree to anything. According to the Revised Malkavian Clanbook (which should be the final word on the matteR), the clan elders took away Dementation so they would fit in better among the Camarilla (and thus, hide easier among mortals).--MythicFox 11:12, 14 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Legends Are Not Facts

The bit about Malkav being gang-diablerized, & it as the origin of the "Madness Network" is only in-game speculation & legend. It has a place being reported here, but even its frame in the Clanbook emphisizes the unreliability of the account. Together with the issue above ("As a condition of joining the Camarilla..."), I think that this article deserves a real cleaning up. Speculation, if kept, should be couched in the appropriate terms. -mordicai. 15:37, 27 September 2006 (UTC)

Well in one of the scenarios of gehena we see Malkav inhabit a group of girls that he uses to speak. Then after Salout kills the girls Malkav jumps to the next available body. So the gang-diablerie is one of the best explanations. You say that it's just in game speculation. Thats what 90% of Vampire was. All of the questions were never answered, and if they were 9/10 times the answer posed a new question. Bhold1 10:51, 7 January 2007 (UTC)