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Contents 1 Name changed 2 The English Name for this historical castle is still Marienburg 3 History of the castle 4 Big problem

[edit] Name changed

I moved the name to internationally reckognised name. The previous version was simply German word for Castle of the Order followed by German version of the city's name. The internationally reckognised name in English is Malbork Castle. --Molobo 16:03, 10 June 2006 (UTC)

The correct English name for this historical castle is still "Marienburg". This is because it has been this name in English since the 1300's. To try and claim otherwise now is trying to change historical fact plus it is also an insult to the Christian named heritage of this castle. Do you wish to insult our faith and religion because of your obvious politics regarding the changing of the borders as forced by the Potsdam Treaty between the Allies of WW2. It is only correct the chosen name of its founders and builders be shown at all times. If not you are in denial of history and this is most shameful according to the Christian faith as I am sure you are aware of. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 220.101.139.240 (talk) 20:26, 13 April 2008 (UTC)

English language sources also use Malbork castle - see Britannica - check. The talk of the correct English name is untrue - English language sources use both, both are equally valid and picking either is not disrespectful to anyone. Please take care not to break links in your edits as you did earlier - I have explained at your talk page here. Knepflerle (talk) 09:08, 14 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] The English Name for this historical castle is still Marienburg

The correct English name for this historical castle is still "Marienburg". This is because it has been this name in English since the 1300's. To try and claim otherwise now is trying to change historical fact plus it is also an insult to the Christian named heritage of this castle. Do you wish to insult our faith and religion because of your obvious politics regarding the changing of the borders as forced by the Potsdam Treaty between the Allies of WW2. It is only correct the chosen name of its founders and builders be shown at all times. If not you are in denial of history and this is most shameful according to the Christian faith as I am sure you are aware of.

God Bless & Thank You  : )

[edit] History of the castle

The following comment was copied from Malbork as that article focuses on the city, to be merged here. --Matthead 02:51, 14 June 2006 (UTC)

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The town was built around the fortress Ordensburg Marienburg, founded in 1274 on the right bank of the river Nogat by the Teutonic Knights. Both the castle and the town of Marienburg were named for their patron saint, the Virgin Mary.

This fortified castle became the seat of the Teutonic Order and Europe's largest Gothic fortress. The river and flat terrain allowed easy access for barges a hundred kilometers from the sea. During Prussia's government by the Teutonic Knights, they collected tolls on river traffic and imposed a monopoly of the amber trade. The city later became a member of the Hanseatic League, and many Hanse meetings were held there. The castle successfully withstood a siege after the Battle of Grunwald under the guidance of Heinrich von Plauen the Elder. However, it was sold during the Thirteen Years' War in 1457 to Casimir IV, the king of Poland, by the Bohemian king's imperial soldiers in lieu of their pay. The city of Malbork under mayor Bartholomäus Blume resisted the Poles for three further years, until he was hanged. Since then, Malbork became one of the Polish royal residences until the partitions of Poland in 1772. In 1945 the castle was severely damaged as a result of fighting during World War II, but was reconstructed thereafter.

Ordensburg Marienburg is a classic example of a medieval fortress; it is the world’s largest brick castle and one of the most impressive of its kind in Europe. The castle and its museum are listed as UNESCO's World Heritage Sites. It is sometimes referred to as 'the largest heap of bricks north of the Alps'. Under continuous construction for nearly 230 years, Malbork is actually three castles nested in one another. The High, Middle and Low Castles are separated by additional dry moats and towers. It housed some 3,000 "brothers in arms". The Low Castle walls enclose 52 acres (210,000 m²), four times the area of Windsor Castle.

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[edit] Big problem

Looks liek the entire text fo the History section is copied verbatim from the castle website http://www.zamek.malbork.pl/en/historia/indexh.php (and follow links to expand each section). There's no indication that this text is any other than copyright, so I'm going to remove it from the article until someone can precis/paraphrase it. David Underdown 12:05, 27 March 2007 (UTC)

Done (by Charlie D - 21:56 28 March 2007)