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If Celebes is not Malay, then how would you explain this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bugis? How about ethnic Malays living in Indonesia - they're not Malays too? --203.15.122.35 02:00, 12 February 2007 (UTC)

Be careful not to confuse the Malay ethnic group (of Sumatra, Malay peninsula and Borneo) with the concept of Malay race. (Caniago 03:46, 12 February 2007 (UTC))
When I created this website, I was just wondering whether the websites I see about Malays in Australia in general relates to the Malay concept in Malay Malaysians - as seen with Cape Malays and Malaysian Malays, the ancestry of the ethnic Malays they are mixed, only that their practice of both Malay culture and Islam unite the different ethnicities of the so-called "Malay World". However, I have no credible sources to prove such thing, except from what I see on the external Cocos Malay websites. Therefore, I better just concentrate on issues relating to all verifiable sources regarding ethnic Malays living in Australia - this would also avoid confusion and any possible bias statements. --Fantastic4boy 07:19, 12 February 2007 (UTC)
Any cases where Javanese, Minang, Bugis, etc are mentioned as being Malays, they are refering to the Malays in the old collonial sense: ie. the Malay race. As mentioned in Malay race this misconception about who the Malays are is due to Raffles and the other English colonialists. (Caniago 10:57, 12 February 2007 (UTC))
This article should be renamed as Malaysian Australian, and encompass all Malaysians irrespective of ethnicity. There are about 57,000 Malaysian born Australians resident - far more than the entire population of the Cocos/Xmas Islands put together.Kransky (talk) 11:02, 24 January 2008 (UTC)