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"Malaysian government's tolerance regarding internet censorship" ? That sounds like it comes right out of the NST. Can't we find a better word than tolerance? Ryan Albrey (talk) 02:08, 27 February 2008 (UTC)
"pro opposition political news website" is a far more accurate description for Malaysiakini given the content on the website. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 124.13.163.74 (talk) 08:17, 21 March 2008 (UTC)
In general discourse unless specified, opposition means Federal level opposition. I don't intend to turn this into an edit war but why do you think Malaysiakini is neutral? Its content tips heavily to the opposition. Perhaps a reaction to the state-controlled mainstream media but that doesn't change fact which is what Wikipedia is concerned about. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 60.53.55.182 (talk) 11:35, 21 March 2008 (UTC)
- Who's saying Malaysiakini is neutral? I'm just pointing out that the term "opposition" is not descriptive enough. Besides, it requires "implicit" assumption which may not be obvious to a third person with limited knowledge in Malaysian politics. A more helpful way to describe a political position is to name that position, like pro-BN, or left, or liberal, or conservative, etc. __earth (Talk) 11:40, 21 March 2008 (UTC)
There is no implicit assumption, it is common usage to use 'opposition' interchangeably with the term 'official opposition'. Anyone with a grasp of Westminster-based parliamentary system will understand. If anything, a link to the article 'parliamentary opposition' under Malaysiakini article is sufficient for people who doesn't understand. So I don't see your point.
On the second point, then anti BN is a pretty accurate description but I rather pro opposition. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 60.51.55.143 (talk) 15:56, 21 March 2008 (UTC)
- You're not getting it. The term opposition is interchangeable. The opposition can by anybody depending on the result of the elections. Therefore, it is better to use better words like what I've said earlier, left, right, monarchist, social democrat, progressive, environmentalism, etc. __earth (Talk) 03:36, 22 March 2008 (UTC)
Wikipedia is not frozen in time, it is constantly evolving to remain current. At this point of time, the DAP-PAS-PKR alliance IS the opposition and Malaysiakini's content does tip to their side. Thus, using "pro opposition" is accurate. If any of the facts above change, then this article will be edited to reflect the new reality. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 60.53.163.81 (talk) 13:14, 22 March 2008 (UTC)
[edit] Visitors
The malaysiakini.com web site itself gives different figures for number of visitors from 50,000 to 160,000. I have taken the lower estimate for the map.Anwar (talk) 19:52, 6 April 2008 (UTC)
- OK, I got a more reliable figure of 170,000 visitors annually for 2008. Malaysiakini was saying the truth after all.Anwar (talk) 14:58, 7 April 2008 (UTC)
