Talk:Malay titles

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Should this be renamed as "Malay styles and titles", to parallel Styles and titles of peers for the UK? Jpatokal 6 July 2005 08:00 (UTC)



Looks like there should be sections (or new page) for Bruneian Titles and Malaysian Titles. And probably this page should be cleaned up and organised. Looks messy to me. Gross 12:14, 19 December 2005 (UTC)


I agree; there's a lot of good information here, but it's very hard to follow at times.

--Paul Moloney 14:59, 11 January 2006 (UTC)

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[edit] Datuk & Dato'

http://www.kln.gov.my/ shows both Datuk and Dato' Seri Syed Hamid Albar on the same page and similar dates. Can you clarify the differences between the two titles? TransUtopian 12:06, 16 July 2006 (UTC)

  • Dato' is a state-granted (sultans or raja) title, Datuk is a federal title, granted by the Yang DiPertuan Agong. --124.82.2.11 15:00, 14 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Singapore

Singapore, whose Malay royalty was abolished by the British colonial government in 1891, has adopted civic titles for its leaders.

Abolish?! Singapore never had a Malay ruler of its own. Prior to British colonialisation, Singapore was a part of theSultanate of Johor. Joshua Chiew 23:56, 9 September 2006 (UTC)

From 1819 to 1891 there was a Sultan of Singapore, and Kampong Glam was the seat of the Sultanate. He was a figurehead, of course. Jpatokal 12:09, 10 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Raja Muda, Tengku Mahkota and other royal titles

I'm enlightened to the confusion caused by other royal titles which are not addressed in this article by a fellow Wikipedia contributor. Perhaps that section can be expanded. I'm also interested in seeing the explanation of titles in Perak which has a complex succession system.Wai Hong 07:57, 6 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Dato Seri

What about Malay Title like "Dato Seri" and its ranks (whether higher than Tan Sri or lower than Tun) Please clarify and elecborate. kT Chan 09Feb08