Talk:Malachim (Hasidic group)

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[edit] Joke?

Is this a joke? --Bear and Dragon 13:50, 15 April 2007 (UTC)

...I don't get it. --Yodamace1 15:04, 15 April 2007 (UTC)

Why do you think this is a joke? Yossiea ^(talk) 16:32, 15 April 2007 (UTC)

It sounds quite absurd and I have never heard of it. The sources are also not that impressive. --Bear and Dragon 17:06, 15 April 2007 (UTC)

Daniel575, your never hearing about it is irrelevant. It is quite well known in the US. Most people who know a bit of American Jewish history have heard about the Malachim. Yossiea ^(talk) 17:56, 15 April 2007 (UTC)

You've never heard of it because it was a largely isolated historical incident which did not result in the culmination of any modern movements which seem to have a future and Rabbi Berel Wein doesn't overview such things. But if Harvard University Press doesn't impress you, what you want? --Yodamace1 22:48, 15 April 2007 (UTC)

It was also mentioned in "American Judaism" by Jonathan Sarna. Yossiea ^(talk) 01:02, 16 April 2007 (UTC)

I don't particularly care what Berel Wein says. And I have simply never heard of this group. How numerous are they? --Bear and Dragon 07:45, 16 April 2007 (UTC)

That's fine, but what's not impressive about the sources? They're tiny, almost dead in fact. How many malachim are there? Good question, I don't know...my guess (not hypothesis) would be less than a hundred. --Yodamace1 15:31, 16 April 2007 (UTC)

Their synagogue in Brooklyn Nesivos Olam located at 187 Hewes St. in the Williamsburg section of Brooklyn, NY is now led by Rabbi Meyer Weberman - can someone find a reliable source to add this information? Itzik18 (talk) 19:08, 25 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Satmar

I removed the Satmar bit because it is too vague, unreferenced, violates WP:OR and is just not notable enough even if true to be included. Yossiea ^(talk) 16:54, 18 September 2007 (UTC)

What would be notable is that many former "Malachim" are now Satmar Hasidim, if we could find a reference to that Itzik18 (talk) 19:10, 25 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] dynasty?

Why is this group called a dynasty, which this encyclopedia defines as "a succession of rulers who belong to the same family for generations." There was no dynasty. I suggest that the title be changed to "Malachim (Hasidic group)". —Preceding unsigned comment added by Yehoishophot Oliver (talk • contribs) 20:51, 22 January 2008 (UTC)