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Contents 1 Imbros 2 RfA: Khukri 3 Thank you 4 Blanket removals 5 Turkey regions 6 Re: MKA 7 Can you assist? 8 Articles you might like to edit, from SuggestBot 9 Thank you for voting 10 warning 11 Reverts N' Edits 12 Hello 13 Reply 14 TRNC and the attempts to discredit the truth about it 15 Project tags 16 Selam 17 Help with Turkey 18 Baristarim on Turkey 19 Rivers 20 Hello 21 Interesting 22 Cat:Armenia Minor 23 Osmanlıca Viki Hakkında 24 bilgilendirme 25 Barnstar time 26 Stalking 27 Can you keep an eye on.. 28 Please don't remove maint notices 29 I am here 30 Blocked for breach of WP:3RR on Persianate 31 Unblock 32 Wake up 33 TfD comments 34 Selam 35 Congratulations 36 Merhaba 37 Delioğul'dan 38 Happy holidays 39 X-Mas 40 Thanks 41 Iranica 42 Thank you 43 Thank you 44 Thanks 44.1 Merry Winterval(s)!!!! (12-22-06) 45 Christmas 46 Selam 47 Sablon 48 Spelling 49 Sureyya Faruqi 50 No problem 51 Bilmukabele 52 Selam 53 Reply 54 Trabzon 55 Welcome to VandalProof! 56 Welcome to VandalProof! 57 Labeling the Kilis map 58 Baklava, Raki, Ordu, etc.. 59 Mutlu Bayramlar 60 Hollyday Greetings

[edit] Imbros

Hi Mustafa. I am not sure if i can find sources about a mayor's list, but i guess there must be a site in turkish (even if there is, i am afraid i cannot read it). I think that it is better to add famous people in the list, so, a local Greek painter or people involved in strictly local culture are not so notable for wikipedia (and something that the readers are probably not interested in). as for Bartholomew, i placed him first, since he is the most notable Imvriot today (if not of all times). i would also like to thank u for your contributions in this article... i have indeed offered a lot! i am looking forward to see old photos of Imvros... It would be very interesting:). Regards Hectorian 13:11, 30 November 2006 (UTC)

Heh, köy means "village", doesn't it? :-) Thanks for your work on that page. However, right now, it says, "Çınarlı is the main town on Imbros". Shouldn't it also be mentioned that the town is also called "Gökçeada town"? (I'm not sure how you say it in Turkish). Khoikhoi 05:40, 2 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] RfA: Khukri

Just a quick note to say thanks for your support on my recent RfA. It became clear very quickly that my editing background was going to detrimental to my nomination. Having seen other recent RfA's fail once one or two admins opposed and others just piled on the vote, I decided it would save the ignominy if I withdrew my nomination. I don't intend to change the work I do as it's what I enjoy, so it'll be unlikely I'll apply again. Anyway thanks again for taking the time to review my nomination and giving your support. Regards Khukri^{(talk . contribs)} 11:46, 2 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Thank you

Thank you for your support with my RfA. My nomination succeeded. I appreciate your support. Thanks again! =) -- Gogo Dodo 22:54, 3 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Blanket removals

I've reverted your removal of all the instances of a template. If the template is "highly disputable", dispute it on the template's talk page. It's a bad idea to make mass edits like this without it being the result of consensus. Thanks. yandman 09:05, 6 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Turkey regions

Thanks for the help on the map correction for the Regions of Turkey... my mapping program can't handle some of the special characters like the İ and ğ, for some reason. Rarelibra 20:44, 7 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Re: MKA

Hi, I don't see what you want me to do. Fad (ix) 18:14, 8 December 2006 (UTC)

Well, you asked me to take a look at the Ataturk page, but I don't know of what specific issue you want me to take a look, do you mean the new controversy about the name of the article? I personally don't know, I'd say looking over what Britannica or other encyclopedia's name their articles could be a good indication. Fad (ix) 03:45, 11 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Can you assist?

Would you be able to assist me in moving the Provinces of Mongolia page to Aymguud of Mongolia? The provinces interpretation is incorrect (and I think taken from Statoids, which is not always correct), and there is an official english wiki entry for the subnational entity of aymag. Can you help? Thanks! Rarelibra 21:28, 8 December 2006 (UTC)

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[edit] Thank you for voting

Thank you for voting in my RfA which at 51/20/6 unfortunately did not achieve consensus. In closing the nomination, Essjay remarked that it was one of the better discussed RfAs seen recently and I would like to thank you and all others who chose to vote for making it as such. It was extremely humbling to see the large number of support votes, and the number of oppose votes and comments will help me to become stronger. I hope to run again for adminship soon. Thank you all once more. Wikiwoohoo 20:03, 11 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] warning

I have never even been warned about 3RR but you have been warned twice or some times about 3RR so please do "NOT" leave a message on my talk page about 3RR I am aware of it. Yilmaz Erdogan is ethnicaly Kurdish. All thew rest biographical articles state the persons ethnicity first thus I have the right to change this with a good source. Thanks. Ozgur Gerilla 20:18, 11 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Reverts N' Edits

Huh? I'm sorry if you saw it as prejudistic...that wasn't my intention at all. I guess I'll be more careful in the future.

About Yılmaz Güney: have you ever seen Yol? The film even shows a scene where Kurds in a village fight with the Turkish Army. Güney also identifies as a Kurd. [1], and he was even jailed at one point for his revolutionary creations. An interviewer once asked him why he had produced no films in Kurdish. He said, "why he had produced no films in Kurdish".

Regarding the rivers, I'll check that out later—I have to sleep now. Khoikhoi 07:03, 12 December 2006 (UTC)

Ah, I am glad that most people in Turkey appreciate their works. You know, my friend's mother actually was in Umut. Anyways, Güney was a Kurd, and in Yol especially, he portrayed the lives of the Kurds in Turkey. Why do you think it's inappropriate to say he was a "Kurdish-Turkish" film director? Khoikhoi 08:41, 12 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Hello

I am aware of that thanks Akalp. --A.Garnet 17:15, 12 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Reply

Look, Mustafa, I am not assuming bad intent. I just don't like unpleasant messages on my talkpage. Notice has been served, I'm fully aware of the 3RR and will not revert again (there is no need to yet). If you need to report me at some point in the future, just cite this. Thanks for letting me know about it, keeping the message there serves no useful purpose now. Saygilar. //Dirak 17:30, 12 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] TRNC and the attempts to discredit the truth about it

Its good to see that you have sought to make clear the facts about the TRNC.I have been doing so myself for some time and have had to fend off attempts by pro G/C elements who try to vandalize the TRNC pages (as well as my own personal page).The TRNC has been unfairly isolated for too long and I hope that it can soon join the family of nations.Expatkiwi 07:17 13 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Project tags

Hi, I've removed that wikiproject tag from Category talk:Titular Sees in Africa - can't see how it's relevant there, must have been a misunderstanding I suppose. That category is really just about Africa and about the Catholic Church. BTW, sorry for the broken edit summary, I accidentally hit Return before I had typed the summary. Fut.Perf. ☼ 14:41, 13 December 2006 (UTC)

Sorry, I'm not getting it. A place like Djerba may have some relevance for Ottoman history, for sure, but what the heck has that to do with the fact that there is a Catholic bishop who calls himself Bishop of Djerba without ever working there? That's what a "titular see" is, and that's all this category is about. - In any case, I think people are overdoing it with the wikiproject tags anyway these days. There are far too many of them, and it reduces their value if they are placed indiscriminately and in higher number than the manpower of the wikiprojects actually can actually handle. Fut.Perf. ☼ 15:36, 13 December 2006 (UTC)

Oh, and something else, I'm not at all certain you did well messing around with those "Fauna" categories. I don't know what you have against "Asia Minor", it's what the area is called in English; alternative is "Anatolia". "Anadolu" is never used in English, please stop changing things to "Anadolu". Please wait making further changes to categories until we've sorted this out. Fut.Perf. ☼ 15:42, 13 December 2006 (UTC)

Hi, just saw your posting to the deletion review. I think it's somehow gone into the wrong section, wait till I tidy it up. I must apologise I somehow hadn't seen your earlier post on my talkpage before I deleted the page. Nevertheless, I think the deletion was proper, I'll explain why in a minute. Regards, Fut.Perf. ☼ 17:18, 13 December 2006 (UTC)

Responded here: [2]. For the moment, I've userfied your page, it's now at User:Mustafa Akalp/List of Turkey-related categories(A-Z). Sorry for the confusion. Fut.Perf. ☼ 17:39, 13 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Selam

I am sorry I couldn't get involved earlier. I put a post at Alex's page. I will also try to take a look at the Yilmaz articles some time today. Unfortunately I wasn't able to follow the discussion to closely. As for the rivers, haklisin, aslinda Wikipedia'nin neresinden tutacagimiz hiç de belli degil, oraya elini atiyorsun baska bir yerden birsey çikiyor. Buyuk Menderes'in makalesinin yerini Meander'dan iki hafta once daha yeni degistirdim. Bir iki tane daha nehrin adi yanlisti. Template'lar guzel olmus, ben de ilgilenmeye çalisacagim.

As for sleeping :)) Turkiye makalesini bir an once temizleyip Featured Article'a getirmeye çalisiyorum, simdilik onceligi ona verdim. Zaten fazla birsey kalmadi, belki de bu aksam bitirebilirim. Ondan sonra diger makalelerle ilgilenmek daha kolay olacak zannedersem. Turkiye ile ilgili makaleleri iyi bir yapiya oturtabilirsek (Turkiye ana makale, bir asagi kademe makaleler (cografya, politika vs) & vs), umarim digerleriyle ilginlenmek daha kolay olacak. Her neyse kolay gelsin, Alex'in sayfasinda olayi takip etmeye çalisacagim.. Baristarim 19:07, 13 December 2006 (UTC)

I love seeing those apostrophes in written turkish (Featured Article'a, Alex'in). If all other inflected or agglutinative languages (german, finnish, russian etc) did that they would be much easier to understand. //Dirak 19:46, 13 December 2006 (UTC)

lol :) Baristarim 23:58, 13 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Help with Turkey

Mustafa - I'd love to help. I have a geographic database with a list of 3 million+ elements from around the world - including geographical elements like rivers and mountains. I will pull out the list and filter it down to Turkish rivers and mountains and we can start combing through it. When we have it as a clean list, I can easily make locator maps for them (and they will have a latitude and longitude for location purposes). Rarelibra 22:07, 13 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Baristarim on Turkey

He is trying to make turkey look like a country of stone age illiterates and worst of all attribute this to Kurds in a very racist way. I have tried to revert his very poor additions, but he is very stubborn about it. Help save the image of Turkey, turks and kurds and stop this wacko

Watch for civility. That wacko spent tens of hours cleaning up that article and finding sources. I found 60 out of 70 sources cited in the article. Literacy figures are mentioned in every single country article, and they will stay. All that information is sourced. Do not touch them. Baristarim 23:50, 13 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Rivers

I will see what I can do with Kizilirmak and Yesilirmak. I have put a post to Kizilirmak talk page and will try to contact Khoikhoi to see what he thinks.. Cheers! Baristarim 00:32, 14 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Hello

I would like to say that it was never my intention to insult you by writing "Allah Belanizi Versin" in the edit summary as I wasn't even aware of the user who edited the article before me. I feel that there is some suppression towards Kurdish articles, particularly, in the art field within the Turkish Kurdistan. Please let's work together for the better Wikipedia only then we could learn more from each other. Ozgur Gerilla 03:11, 14 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Interesting

I ran into another example of where you may be able to help me, my friend. There is an incorrect naming of the article for Lake Scutari. I have initiated a move request, so if you want to participate, go HERE and check it out. The name is supposed to be "Lake Skadar". Check out the article I referenced. Rarelibra 16:32, 14 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Cat:Armenia Minor

Hi there.I wanted to let you know that your {{db}} on Category:Armenia Minor was improperly placed, and have converted it into a renaming discussion at Wikipedia:Categories for deletion/Log/2006 December 15.Please feel free to make your arguments there as to why it is "Racist and Nationalistic".Cheers! Syrthiss 20:22, 15 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Osmanlıca Viki Hakkında

Merhaba Sayın Mustafa Akalp,

Osmanlıca viki hakkındaki fikirlerimi desteklediğiniz için size teşekkür ederim. Öncelikle size bir açıklamada ve ricada bulunmak istiyorum. Daha önce Osmanlıca viki için bu [3] sayfada destek oyu vermiştiniz teşekkkür ederim. Fakat bu ay başında, yeni açılacak lisanlar için müracaat şartları değişti [4] ve bütün eski müracaatlar iptal edildi. Biz de yeni müracaat formatına göre Osmanlıca viki için tekrar bu [5] sayfaya müracaat ettik. Yeni viki açılma şartlarına, katkıda bulunan kullanıcı sayısı en az 5 olmalı ve bunların ismi müracaat listesinde yer almalı deniyor. Sizden ricam [6] Users interested in forming an editing community başlığı altına isminizi eklemeniz ve (support) destek oyunuzu burada tekrar kullanmanız.

• Osmanlıca vikiye küçük büyük demeden ne kadar katkı yapabilirseniz o kadar faydalıdır. Bir kelime bir cümle bir resim bir interviki veya bir iki cümlelik bir madde olabilir. Yazı yazarken acaba bu kelimenin yazılışı nasıldı acaba yanlışmı yazıyorum diye hiç düşünme ve çekinme sen yeterki yaz ben gerekli düzeltmeleri yaparım. Eğer Osmanlıca vikiyi destekleyebileceğini veya katkıda bulunabileceğini düşündüğün arkadaşların varsa onları da durumdan haberdar et. Ben herkese elimden geldiği kadar yardım ederim. Bana ingilizce, türkçe veya osmanlıca vikiden her zaman ulaşabilirsiniz. Burada en temel mesele Vikiyi bilenlerin içinde Osmanlıca yazabilen pek olmaması Osmanlca bilenlerin iseTürkçe ve Osmanlıca vikiden haberlerinin olmaması. Bu mesele çözüldüğü an Osmanıca pek çok yaşayan dilden hem madde sayısı hem de kalite yönündenileride olacaktır. Şimdilik çok değil 3-5 Osmanlıca yazabilecek kişi bize lazım. Osmanlıca nasıl yazı yazılacağına dair bu [7] sayfada geniş bir açıklama yaptım. Sanal klavyede Osmanlıca yazmak tahmin edildiği gibi zor değil klavye harfleri kendi birleştiriyor başta sonda ortada kendi ayarlıyor. Başka sorularınız olursa onları da bildiğim kadarı ile cevaplandırabilirim. AyrıcaAzerbaycan Vikisinde bürokrat olan az:istifadəçi:Mehrdad Avustralya'dan bana her konuda yardımcı olmaya çalışıyor.

Sizden bir başka ricam eğer mümkünse ve sizi fazla meşgul etmeyecekse Free smyrnan mesaj sayfasına yazdığım fikirlerimden gerekli ve önemli gördüklerini ingilizceye tercüme edip bu [8] sayfadaki Arguments in favour başlığı altına ilave etmeniz.

Size bir başka şeyden de bahsetmek istyorum. Bize her konuda yardımcı olan ve Eski Türçe vikininde ilk zamanlar yöneticisi olan Yaroslav Zolotaryov daha önce şu mesajı yollamıştı:

• • Bize bir oylamada yardım edebilir misiniz? http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Proposals_for_closing_projects/Closure_of_Siberian_Wikipedia Bu oylama Sıbırca hakkında. Eski Sıbır Türklerin Eski Slavlarla ilişkiler yeni bir dilin ortaya çıkması için sebep olmuş. Ruslar bu dilin kullanmasını yasak etmek istiyorlar, bu dilde yazmış Wikipedia'nı kapamak istiyorlar. Amma şu Wikipedia islam hakkında güzel bilgiler veriyor, güzel yazılar içine alıyor.

--Yaroslav Zolotaryov 12:19, 3 November 2006 (UTC)

• Şimdi ruslar oylamada önde gidiyor orada Siberian_Wikipediasının kapanmaması yönünde oy kullanıp onlara yardım edebilirseniz iyi olur.

• • Şimdi gelelim en son cümlenizdeki sorunuza Tarih konusundaki bilgilerinizden ingilizce wikide nasıl yararlanabiliriz.

• • Ben size elimden geldiği kadarı ile her türlü şekilde yardımcı olmak isterim. Fakat yazışmalarımda da belki görmüşsünüzdür. İngilizcem İngilizce vikiye katkı yapacak seviyede değil. Cümle yapılarını biraz iyi biliyor bimediğim kelimeleri de sözlüğe bakarakiyi kötü en azından bir cümlenin neden bahsettiğini anlayacak kadar tercüme edebiliyorum ancak. Ben ingilizceye resim ekleme, bazı yeni yazılan türkçe maddelerle ilgili interviki ekleme ufak tefek cümleler ekleme şeklinde katkılarda bulunabiliyorum.İngilizceyi iyi bilmediğimden daha nasıl katkıda bulunabileceğim hususunda bir fikrim yok. Fakat sizin aklınıza yardımcı olabileceğim bir husus veya konu geliyorsa her zaman elimden geldiği kadarı ile yardıma hazırım. Bana çekinmeden ulaşabilirsiniz.

• • Umarım bu kadar uzun cevap yazıp, bana mesaj yolladığınıza sizi pişman etmemişimdir. Bütün çalışmalarınızda başarılar dilerim. Sizi meşgul etmişsen ve zamanınızı almışsam özür dilerim. Hoşçakalın.İyi akşamlar.

--Tarih 17:41, 16 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] bilgilendirme

Merhabalar Mustafa Bey;

Öyle bu herif kantarın topuzunu kaçırmış diye benimle irtibata geçseydiniz daha çok sevinirdim (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Future_Perfect_at_Sunrise#Personal_Attack) .

Bu davranışınız için sizi kınıyorum . hem meslektaşım hem de aynı ülkeden olduğum bir insana sizin davranışınızı yakıştıramadım.

--Trichnosis 21:47, 16 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Barnstar time

		The Original Barnstar
		For your hard work and efforts to improve Wikipedia on almost every level — Tebrikler! :-) Baristarim 19:34, 17 December 2006 (UTC)

Btw, for the edit summaries :) Yeah, you are right. I just got a bit upset because it disturbed some of the other editions. I will try to be more careful in the future :) Cheers!Baristarim 19:53, 17 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Stalking

Mustafa, I got complaints that you stalk User:Tajik. Particularly this edit seems to be strange. I cannot see what exactly info you have reverted back and why you are so interested in the article of this Afghan leader (there is nothing in wrong in such an interest of course). Mustafa, if for some reason you decided to take part in edit warrings just because Tajik in involved there, please stop. The life is short and on wikipedia there are a lot of genuinely interesting articles for everybody Alex Bakharev 04:45, 18 December 2006 (UTC)

== Reply ==

Dear Alex, There are many dispruptive edits of Tajik in many articles. I am not expert on that spesific article but as you can see User:NisarKand has many contribution there in a positive manner which were reverted/deleted by Tajik. I only revert this deletion back. Regards. Must^TC 05:07, 18 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Can you keep an eye on..

Religion in Turkey? It was somehow chosen to be in the main page for today as "Did you know?", and has already started getting weird edits. I won't be able to be online for most of the day, so if you could add it on your watchlist, that would be great.. Cheers! Baristarim 06:11, 18 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Please don't remove maint notices

Please do not remove maintenance notices from pages, as you did to Turko-Persian Tradition, unless the required changes have been made. If you are uncertain whether the page requires further work, or if you disagree with the notice, please discuss these issues on the page's talk page before removing the notice from the page. These notices and comments are needed to establish community consensus about the status of a page. Thank you. Will (Talk - contribs) 06:45, 18 December 2006 (UTC)

Dear Will Pittenger,

Thanks for your kind messages. As you can see,

• Wikipedia:POV check,the policy says "The POV check template, {{POV-check}}, may be added to an article which you feel may need to be edited to comply with Wikipedia's neutral point of view policy. Add the template at the top of the article, and then explain your reasons on the talk page of the article that needs checking (not the talk pages of the template or this article)."
• This template was added there in a racial way.

So, I think it is better to remove template from that article. Regards. Must^TC 07:02, 18 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] I am here

Yes Baristarim 20:45, 18 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Blocked for breach of WP:3RR on Persianate

The duration of the block is 48 hours. — Nearly Headless Nick ^{{C} {L}} 16:03, 19 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Unblock

There was a vandal attacks by IP User:58.147.4.20 to many articles as well as Persianate. I reverted two times its vandalism back. I reported it in; here and here [9]. Admin User:Future_Perfect_at_Sunrise also reverted som of its vansalism and he invastigate that this IP is an open proxy Ip user.}}

Must^TC 20:09, 19 December 2006 (UTC)

I received your email, Mustafa. Although, I cannot comment as to whether you were removing vandalism or not, I saw that you removed some of the reliable sources that directed towards the Iranica, which I felt was disruption over your breach of WP:3RR. However, I respect Alex's judgment and have unblocked you on that count. In the future, take care to respect WP:3RR, WP:POINT and always try to discuss on the talk page. What matters is what content remains on the page for a longer period, and not transitory periods of revert-warring. Take care. — Nearly Headless Nick ^{{C} {L}} 11:39, 20 December 2006 (UTC)

Dear Nicholas, Thanks for your good faith. Also thanks to Alex for his referance fom me. I will under pressure of obligation to respect to this referanceand your good faith in my future edits. I think this is my responsibility. Please let me state some points; My first/main mission is to organise/categorise/wikify/contribute Turkey related articles. Unfortunately there are not so much Turkish users in wiki. Of course there are much users which interested in these articles,but some (a group of) users ,put some misinformation, unsourced infos, strong anti-Turkish POVs to these articles. As a conclusion I defence these articles( I accept that some time in a aggressive way under stress). In persianate case; of course Iranica can be accepted as a reliable source, but I have some suspicion for Iranica in Persianate. Like as Islam Encyclopidia for Muslim. Just for my info;Can I restrict my self for 1RR (to protect myself for a period of time, to calm down), where can I find details in wiki.? Thanks again. Sincerely yours. Must^TC 12:22, 20 December 2006 (UTC)

Please refrain from editing the Persianate page till the period your block would have naturally expired. Also avoid the talk page of the article, so that other users may assume good faith with you. — Nearly Headless Nick ^{{C} {L}} 12:33, 20 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Wake up

You keep reverting perfectly valid edits in Turkey and TRNC. The Turkey article has become far too long and the history just adds superfluous information that belongs to Turkey history and Ataturk articles. This is not about sentiment but concisness and about polishing an article to make it reader-friendly. I am quite happy to let you destroy those articles but at least explain why you revert edits. User:Politis

[edit] TfD comments

Mustafa, I have made a partial revert on the TfD for the Armenian capitals article, restoring the anon's comment (I thought it was just spam, but now that I have time to read it I can see that this wasn't the intention, so in this case, I apologize).Still, I have removed your comments and moved them to Francis's talk page as that is the appropriate place to put them. Kindest regards, Clevelander 14:35, 20 December 2006 (UTC)

BTW, Francis responded to me and said that he will not close the TfD on no concensus yet.He says he will wait until Saturday to do so, if no reasonable solution is agreed upon.Again, my position is for the template to remain but to rename it to "former Armenian capitals" as opposed to just "Armenian capitals."That way, it shall be a victory for both Armenian and Turkish users. Best, Clevelander 15:10, 20 December 2006 (UTC)

Fine, then I will move all of your comments (in completion) to Francis's talk page.They should be there, not on the TfD discussion. Also, in the future, please post all comments on my user talk page, not on the IP I'm using now. -- Clevelander 15:19, 20 December 2006 (UTC)

They should be moved there because it specfically relates to my comments on Francis's talk page. Please all I want is to end this whole thing peacefully and iron this whole template issue out.I'm afraid that your out-of-place comments will only enflame the situation. -- Clevelander 15:24, 20 December 2006 (UTC)

Okay, I found out that I was able to log on Wikipedia at work.Perfect.So please move your comments from the IP page to mine and move your TfD comments to Francis's talk page.All the best, Clevelander 15:28, 20 December 2006 (UTC)

No your comments relate more towards my private discussion with Francis.If you don't wish to move them on his page, then move them to mine (as they are addressed to me).-- Clevelander 15:30, 20 December 2006 (UTC)

I explained to you my fear.I'm afraid that your out-of-place comments will only enflame the situation and not help it.-- Clevelander 15:34, 20 December 2006 (UTC)

It also wouldn't make any sense to place your comments on the TfD page as I already responded to the anon's comments. -- Clevelander 15:37, 20 December 2006 (UTC)

I will respond only if you remove the quote from the anon (as its already on the TfD and will only confuse the reader) and if you only link my message to Francis, not quote it as it clutters things up. -- Clevelander 15:45, 20 December 2006 (UTC)

I fulfilled your request. The least you could do is to not troll around by reverting my other edits and adding more POV to the article. You wouldn't want me to make a POV-check on this article. Miskin 17:46, 20 December 2006 (UTC)

I'm not sure that I understand what you're trying to say. In any case, some time ago Byzantine Greeks was only a small sub-section of Greeks, now there's a whole new article and I'm getting links for it, that is all. Nobody told you to help me out, but there's no reason for you to keep making blind reverts. When I edit a Turkish-related article it doesn't mean that I'm criticising its content as you probably imagine. Changing Macedonia (region) to the anachronistic Republic of Macedonia is either POV or trolling. Miskin 18:02, 20 December 2006 (UTC)

Can't you see that this is about Macedonia during the Balkan wars? It was part of the Ottoman Empire at the time, no Slavic state, only a region. Miskin 18:28, 20 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Selam

Yok ya, feci yoruldum. Cins bir AfDden savasa savasa çiktim. Ne diyeyim. Unblock olmussun, that's good :) Birazdan çikmam gerek ama daha sonra bir email atarim. Basim çok kotu agriyor! Baristarim 19:31, 20 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Congratulations

		The Working Man's Barnstar
		For your tirelessly work and endlessly contributions on the more laborious or repetitive of Wikipedia tasks. Tebrikler! E104421 00:59, 22 December 2006 (UTC))

[edit] Merhaba

Merhaba Mustafa, bazı yoğun işlerim olduğundan uzun süredir buraya uğrayamadım, şimdide vakit buldukça katılmaya çalışıyorum. Mesajın için sağol. Zaparojdik 13:27, 23 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Delioğul'dan

Böyle küçük birşeyi rica etmeniz bile yeterdi zaten ama unutulmaması gereken şey Türklerin hiçbir yerde ziyaretçi olmadıklarıdır. Toprağının senin olup olmadığını belirleyen şey onun üstünde kaç bin sene kaldığın değil uğruna neleri feda edebildiğindir ki biz güzel Anadolu'yu düşman elinden kurtarmak için çektiğimiz çilelerle toprağımıza sahip çıkmayı bildik. Mail işini de halledebildim sanırım. Saygılarımla, Deliogul 12:50, 23 December 2006 (UTC)

Ben de sizin yeni yılınızı ve bayramızını aynı anda kutlamış olayım bari :) Esenlikler, Deliogul 16:19, 25 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Happy holidays

LOL, you scared me with that cookie monster. Happy holidays to you too. :) --Mardavich 13:28, 23 December 2006 (UTC)

Happy holidays from me to, Mustafa; I too thought the cooky monster had come to devore me! ;-)--Aldux 13:35, 23 December 2006 (UTC)

Thanks Akalp, Merry Christmas and Happy New Year to you also. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by A.Garnet (talk • contribs) 13:54, 23 December 2006 (UTC).

Thank you Mustafa, tesekkurler, what a nice thought. I know it's probably too late now, but I hope you had a happy Kurban Bayrami :-) //Dirak 13:57, 23 December 2006 (UTC)

A politically correct, "Seasons Greetings", and a Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year from me :) - Francis Tyers · 14:07, 23 December 2006 (UTC)

Thank you Mustafa! Merry Christmas and Mutlu Yıllar! Atilim Gunes Baydin 13:58, 23 December 2006 (UTC)

Thank you very much. :) Durova^Charge! 14:08, 23 December 2006 (UTC)

Merry Christmas!!! You are muslim right? Why you celebrate christmas? Mitsos 14:09, 23 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] X-Mas

I wish you a merry X-Mas, too :) Tājik 14:51, 23 December 2006 (UTC)

Merry X-mas too. Ozgur Gerilla 15:03, 23 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Thanks

Thanks! Merry Christmas! What is the Turkish term for this wish by the way?!--Yannismarou 15:04, 23 December 2006 (UTC)

Kurban bayramınız kutlu olsun then!--Yannismarou 15:14, 23 December 2006 (UTC)

Hey Mustafa, Merry Christmas to you too!

NikoSilver 16:09, 23 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Iranica

Please stop with the blind reverts anywhere you see Iranica. See admin Sir Nicholas de Mimsy-Porpington's comment on Talk:Persianate. Iranica is a reliable source conforming with WP:RS , authored by the most notable scholars of orient, the majority of whom are not even Iranian. --Mardavich 16:53, 23 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Thank you

Thanks and merry Christmas to you to.Azerbaijani 16:58, 23 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Thank you

Hepimize Mutlu Noeller :) . --Free smyrnan 17:26, 23 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Thanks

Aren't you an atheist?--Eupator 17:40, 23 December 2006 (UTC)

I am actually, but also a traditionalist. One doesn't hurt the other.--Eupator 19:34, 23 December 2006 (UTC)

Thanks, merry Bayram to you :) Filanca 18:28, 23 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Merry Winterval(s)!!!! (12-22-06)

Oh, the weather outside is frightful!... But I hope wherever you you are, that it's warm and delightful! : ) —Randfan!!

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Dear Makalp/archive dec2006, I wish you a very, very merry Winterval! And since I don't know which you celebrate, I hope you have/had/will have a very happy Holiday!. Hope you and your family have a magnificent day, or series of days! You might wanna install the "SaucyMillionaire" font to see this correctly. Cheers, mate! :) —Randfan!!

God (or your deity/deities) bless you and your family! —¡Randfan!^{Sign here?} 02:30, 22 December 2006 (UTC)

-I was planning to hand these out on the 22nd of Dec. but things got in the way.... Happy holidays!—¡Randfan!^{Sign here?} 20:17, 23 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Christmas

I understand your intentions, but next time, try not to use a fair use image to wish people a Merry/Happy Christmas?—Ryūlóng (竜龍) 20:56, 23 December 2006 (UTC)

Please see Wikipedia:Fair use for more information on fair use images and why they cannot be placed on anything but an article.—Ryūlóng (竜龍) 21:29, 23 December 2006 (UTC)

Happy holidays to you, Mustafa! Thanks for the very nice picture. Ryulong is right: we are not allowed to use Fair Use images outside the article space, but I still illegally enjoyed it for a few minutes. Alex Bakharev 21:37, 23 December 2006 (UTC)

Thanks, Mustafa. Don't worry, everything is fine. Anyway as a Russian Orthodox Christian I suppose to celebrate Christmas on January 7 (I celebrate both, just in case). I guess good Muslims are suppose to celebrate Kurban Bayram and Al-Hijra (it looks like all religions have some sort of a mid-winter festival). Happy holidays again Alex Bakharev 22:01, 23 December 2006 (UTC)

And thanks from me, too. Don't worry too much about the fair-use business - it's an easy mistake anyone could make, but we are supposed to use only gfdl and pd images on talk pages. Hope you have a great festive season! Grutness...wha? 22:54, 23 December 2006 (UTC)

Thanks Mustafa, I injoyed the illegality. :) Fad (ix) 23:45, 23 December 2006 (UTC)

Merry Image-Miss.I enjoyed it as well.Have happy and pleasant holidays and good wishes for the next year.Georgewilliamherbert 23:54, 26 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Selam

Selam! Mailini aldim, hala bir cevap yazmaya zamanim olmadi (daha dogrusu hem devamli kosusturmaktan biraz da tembellikten :)). Ama dedigini anliyorum, benim için ok. Hem biraz bazi seylerden uzak durmaya baslasam iyi olacak valla! Ama yine de bir mail atarim.

Umarim senin için hersey yolundadir. Cheers! Baristarim 05:23, 25 December 2006 (UTC)

Where was my X-mas card? Just kidding :)) Baristarim 05:25, 25 December 2006 (UTC)

Ok, ilgilendim. Baska bir iki sayfada da biraz dalgalanma olmus. Sen de yine arada bir gozat.

Mesajlari gordum, herkes sormus niye kart atiyorsun diye. Ee, ne yaparsin? lol

Valla ben de uç arkadasla gezecegim bir hafta boyunca, ama tam olarak ne yapacagimizi bilmiyoruz. Yilbasi herhalde Paris'te olurum ama, oyle fazla ilginç birsey degil. Zaten Fransa'da yilbasinda bir tek Paris'te Sanzelize'ye çikip sogukta insan selinin içinde bagirmaktan baska ilginç birsey yok :) Ondan sonra buz gibi havada eve donmek kaliyor. Belki yilbasindan sonra da birkaç gun dinlenirim, benim de biraz kafa dinlemem lazim artik. Hep Turkiye'ye gelecegim diyorum ama yazdan baska bir zaman mumkun olmuyor. Istanbul'da balik gibisi yok, dogru :)) Aslinda Istanbul gibisi yok ama ne yapalim, bir turlu Turkiye'ye geri donemedik. Ancak boyle yazlari falan, komsular alisveriste gorsun hesabi. Hayat iste... Baristarim 06:29, 25 December 2006 (UTC)

Valla sagol. Sana da iyi tatiller! Baristarim 06:41, 25 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Sablon

Sizler cennetlik insanlarsınızgerçekten. Yemin ediyorum gözlerim doldu burdaki yardımlaşmayı görünce, 2 gündür sinir harbi içinde geçirdikten sonra. Görüyorum tr Vikipediye de üyeymişsiniz. Üstelik yöneticisiniz. Niye ordakiler bu şekilde davranıyor herkesi uzaklaştırıyorlar ? Sadece bana değil, birçok email aldım özelden bırak uğraşma diye. Neyse. teşekkür ederim tekrar.. --Onder K. 06:48, 25 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Spelling

I'm sorry, but what exactly do you mean by "main directions" and "sub directions". This must be the language barrier. Anyways, as far as I know, both "southeast" and "south east" are correct. If you look at the Southeast article, it lists all spellings. Basically, I moved the pages based on Google hits—you can see my findings here and here. Saygılar, Khoikhoi 08:53, 25 December 2006 (UTC)

Oh, I get it now. As I said, both are grammatically correct. I prefer to use Southeastern Anatolia because of the Southeastern United States. :-) Cheers, Khoikhoi 09:04, 25 December 2006 (UTC)

I'm sorry I couldn't answer your question in time - Southeastern is preferred. You can also you South-East. I went to bed, but woke up excited about Christmas - we are having crab!NinaEliza (talk • contribs • logs) 10:16, 25 December 2006 (UTC)

One more thing Mustafa. If no one helps you quickly, you can go here:[[10]]. They're very nice and (usually) very fast.:)NinaEliza (talk • contribs • logs) 10:20, 25 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Sureyya Faruqi

Araştırmacı olarak ismini bilmekle beraber kitaplarına ciddi bir şekilde eğilmemiştim. Okuyacağım. Çok teşekkürler. --Free smyrnan 13:43, 25 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] No problem

I have been actually trying find the middle ground on these articles to avoid silly edit-wars that wastes our energy and time. :) --Mardavich 13:47, 25 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Bilmukabele

Teşekkür ederim. I first rcvd your X-mas wishes and I was surpised, and then the message dissappeared from my talk page, as your messages have the habit of doing, now I receive a beautiful new-year message. Is all this be pregnant to something, are the affairs getting forkish, will it end in the black-arm:) I am a middle-natured boy you know :) ? Cretanforever 19:50, 25 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Selam

Dun bahsettigin makaleye bir bakabilirmisin? Yine anon ortaligi dagitiyor, ben de 3RRa geldim. Baristarim 04:22, 26 December 2006 (UTC)

Tatile ne oldu? :) Template:Infobox TR guzel oluyor, ne yazik ki su ana kadar fazla ilgilenmeye zamanim olmadi. Bolgeleri de eklemek iyi olmus. Ben de zaten sen yaratana kadar niye bu bolge sayfalari simdiye kadar yaratilmadi diye dusunuyordum - good job! Baristarim 08:27, 27 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Reply

No special reason, I am a member of Project Turkey and I am interested in topics I am interested in. Nobody owns any articles here, read WP:OWN. --Mardavich 08:41, 27 December 2006 (UTC)

I saw the messages on the talk page, and I felt that bit of info is superfluous. Anyways, happy new year to you too. --Mardavich 08:48, 27 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Trabzon

I like it too. You can see other photos by the same guy at commons:User:Soman/Turkey. Khoikhoi 08:52, 27 December 2006 (UTC)

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[edit] Labeling the Kilis map

How did you DO that? :) Rarelibra 17:46, 27 December 2006 (UTC)

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[edit] Baklava, Raki, Ordu, etc..

You said ask for help if I needed it. How do I stop people from erasing my sourced and verifiable contribs? Also, they say reason being for reverts is "not a good source", and sometimes no reason. How is that handled? I made a lot of research, and those sources would be valid even in court...yet they erase without any explanation.

Macrakis broke by attempting to reveal my IP address. I won't confirm or deny that's my IP. I want him booted off Wiki because he broke US law, and Wiki rules. Thanks. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:152.216.11.5#Oguz1

[edit] Mutlu Bayramlar

Thank you for the Christmas message. I would like to wish a happy Kurban Bayrami along with a happy new year! Bertilvidet 17:13, 30 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Hollyday Greetings

In your "Hollyday Greeting" to Bertilvidet, you used a fairuse image in userspace. Unfortunately, we can't use screenshots on userpages. I've commented out your photo. Feel free to contact me with any questions. alphachimp. 19:45, 30 December 2006 (UTC)

Just noticed your message: it had been reverted by another user on my talk page, probably because of the image. Admittedly belatedly, I'd like to wish you a very Merry Christmas and happy new year too! Wikiwoohoo 17:12, 6 January 2007 (UTC)