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[edit] What was that Song?

Does anyone know what the background song during the "really, really high" sequences was? The Fading Light (talk) 04:40, 27 March 2008 (UTC)

Probably a song from Heavy Metal (film) --Viper007Bond (talk) 06:14, 27 March 2008 (UTC)

Heavy Metal by Sammy Hagar.LifeStroke420 (talk) 16:54, 27 March 2008 (UTC)

I changed the reference to the song to reflect Sammy Hagar rather than Don Felder. I'll bet my life that "Heavy Metal" is by Sammy Hagar. Mrburney (talk) 00:39, 28 March 2008 (UTC)

Betting your life is not good policy for changing articles. Find a source first, then change the article. Professor Chaos (talk) 01:50, 28 March 2008 (UTC)
Actually both bands are featured in the episode, Don Felder with "Heavy Metal (Takin' a Ride)" and Sammy Hagar with "Heavy Metal". I changed the article accordingly. Blackboxxx (talk) 02:47, 28 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] The article...

Who the hell wrote this? It's actually sort of funny considering it's Wikipedia and everything sounds stale and serious and this... doesn't. Either way, somebody please fix it. 69.121.66.69 (talk) 05:31, 27 March 2008 (UTC)


"Kyle's Dad mentions "getting high off fermenting human feces" which is a reference to the hoax Jenkem." Jenkem is NOT a hoax. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 59.94.131.100 (talk) 05:43, 27 March 2008 (UTC)

Jenkem is a hoax.Period.Koubiak (talk) 05:02, 28 March 2008 (UTC)

It is not a hoax. Please get your facts straight before making such statements. ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jenkem ). —Preceding unsigned comment added by 59.94.143.108 (talk) 21:13, 28 March 2008 (UTC)

The article could be changed to a more neutral expression. This is a wiki, and anyone wanting to look into it can read the article. blades (talk) 08:52, 27 March 2008 (UTC)

Jenkem usage in Africa is very real. I think I should also point out that the main drug featured in this episode, something in male cat urine, seems to be based on another "drug" spawned on the totse/bltc BBS: 5-MeOW (meow) is a made-up analogue of well known drugs like 5-MeO-DMT, 5-MeO-DiPT, and 5-MeO-AMT. It was said to be present in cat urine and could be smoked. Victims dumb enough to try this gave up as collection of the urine is apparently quite difficult. There was a large push from members of the totse BBS community to get Jenkem on southpark, so that reference is likely real. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.74.194.6 (talk) 21:56, 28 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Trivia deletion

The bit of trivia about the Spitzer parody is in the main body of the article and the information does not need to be repeated in a trivia section. --Hygmod (talk) 06:29, 27 March 2008 (UTC)

A lot of the trivia doesn't seem notable, and some of it - at least in one occasion - is repeated twice, particularly the parts about the gender of Mr. Kitty. Th 2005 (talk) 08:39, 27 March 2008 (UTC)

Mr. Kitty may also be a generic reference to interchangeable cats that Cartman has had over time, I think. That would explain the sex change. If the first kitty was also called Mr, it may have been confusion in young Cartman's part about its sex. Fits right in. Of course that's just speculation, but so is the article's huge hype about it.

Actually, Cartman says he had a cat but it had to be put to sleep "because it pissed me off". He could even be telling the truth but talking about the older cat. blades (talk) 08:42, 27 March 2008 (UTC)

Maybe Mr. Kitty is a hermophredide. Lianne is, so maybe also their pet. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 122.104.163.203 (talk) 10:17, 27 March 2008 (UTC)

Technically, Cartman's mother is an intersexed person - not a hermaphrodite. - Bel —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.71.120.90 (talk) 02:51, 28 March 2008 (UTC)

South Park exists in a very fluid reality (which is how they've been in fourth grade for so long). Mr. Kitty is a male in this episode because they needed him to be. How come Kenny's still here when he dies so often? Because it's a fluid reality, and it has been since the beginning, and things like this are not notable anymore. Professor Chaos (talk) 13:11, 27 March 2008 (UTC)

Why was the entire trivia section deleted?! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 204.115.121.5 (talk) 14:55, 27 March 2008 (UTC)

It was removed because Trivia sections should NOT be in wikipedia. FULL STOP. Philbuck222 (talk) 21:10, 28 March 2008 (UTC)

I think Trivia -should- be in Wikipedia. Heaps of people I know go to Wikipedia after they watch something to find out where the idea originated from. There's no harm in having it there. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 202.7.183.132 (talk) 06:01, 31 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] The Choking Game

I had this presentation at my school recently. It kills like only 4 kids a year, but these presentations gave kids a new way to get high. That's why it's funny when Kenny immediately starts choking himself. The presenters fail to ask how many people have heard of it...PokeHomsar (talk) 08:56, 27 March 2008 (UTC)

    Don't post this kind of stuff, please. It's a bad influence. Paulalex19 (talk) 22:28, 14 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Anne Frank or Schindler's List?

Is the whole Cartman/cat hiding subplot supposed to be alluding to Anne Frank and the Holocaust or Schindler's List? I haven't seen the film, and this article keeps going back and forth between the two. Turtleboy267 (talk) 15:47, 27 March 2008 (UTC)

It makes an allusion to Anne Frank and the Holocaust. I don't think there is anything specifically that references Schindler's List. It's about the Holocaust in general, while Schindler's List is just a movie about that.►Chris NelsonHolla! 15:48, 27 March 2008 (UTC)
It's definitely the diary of Anne Frank. I couldn't see any references to Schindler's List anywhere in the episode, except for the general tone of hospitality that Cartman (!) displays to the cats. Phoenix1304 (talk) 16:29, 27 March 2008 (UTC)

The hiding of the cat and "write a diary" is of course Anne Frank. The continuing of hiding the cats is Schindlers List.

-G

I could see the "just one more" aspect as possbily coming from Shindler's List too. But I still think it's a pretty weak link. Hoof Hearted (talk) 17:06, 27 March 2008 (UTC)
I think the musical cues may have resembled those in Schindler's List. I'm wondering if the scene with the woman bringing her cat to Carman was a direct reference to any particular film. --DavidK93 (talk) 17:28, 27 March 2008 (UTC)
It's all about Anne Frank and the Holocaust, none about Schindler's List.Garysoh (talk) 19:31, 27 March 2008 (UTC)
Well, Schindler's List is about the Holocaust, so I can see where there would be some confusion to those who have seen it but haven't read The Diary. Phoenix1304 (talk) 20:02, 27 March 2008 (UTC)

This was the most interesting subplot they've had so far this season. The Anne Frank reference was in the fact that they were hiding in an attic, and that Cartman tells Mr. Kitty to write a diary. I have not seen Schindler's List, but from what I know the rest of this subplot was Schindler's List. I thought that Cartman's reaction to each new cat, and his tone and comments, seemed very Schindler's List. How do I know? I don't, but I have an instinct about it that I'm pretty sure is right. Someone who does know may be able to elaborate, and if there's a good source for a reference to confirm this we can add it in. I'm pretty sure this is an important, relevant part of this article. The other thought is that the irony they set up was twofold: Cartman showing sympathy was one, then the icing on the cake was him criticizing Kyle for his intolerance of cats (the irony of course being an intolerant Jew and a tolerant anti-Semite in a parody of a film about Jews and intolerance). Professor Chaos (talk) 00:17, 28 March 2008 (UTC)

A common misconception about this episode is that the first cat paralleled Anne Frank, and the rest were Schindler's List. However, Anne Frank and her family were not the only ones hiding in the Achterhuis: Several families eventually joined her. So, while there may be slight musical references to SL, this episode still contains a great deal many more references to Anne Frank's story. Phoenix1304 (talk) 14:29, 28 March 2008 (UTC)

Just a quick note, Anne Frank called her diary Kitty. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 212.123.147.112 (talk) 11:49, 28 March 2008 (UTC)

the scene where the Jewish woman brings her cat to cartman is a parody of a similar scene in schindler's list —Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.13.30.17 (talk) 01:52, 30 March 2008 (UTC)

It's definitely a reference to Schindler's List. A clip of the episode is titled: Cartman's List and tags it as Schindler's List Strongsauce (talk) 16:02, 31 March 2008 (UTC)

Possibly Both, The "here, write a diary" comment is obviously meant to reference "The diary of Anne Frank", I hope that doesnt need further explanation. Schindlers list is a bit more iffy, its a while since I've seen it, but I seem to recall people trying to get friends/relatives sent to schindlers concentration camp rather than others, which could be inspiration for the scene where the woman arrives and begs Cartman to take Mishka(spelling?), however, since even at this apperently "Good" camp, a guy was going to be executed for failing to make enough hinges (odd considering his job was to shovel coal), I'm not sure we can push the link that far —Preceding unsigned comment added by 80.254.146.20 (talk) 15:11, 4 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] the first paragraph

it implies that the references were part of the inspiration. But nice try ;) Go "subsumes" go! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 129.97.237.101 (talk) 22:03, 27 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] where's the trivia section?

there was a trivia section like... yesterday, why has it been removed? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 58.175.243.85 (talk) 01:59, 28 March 2008 (UTC)

Because they read terribly, contain useless information and make the entire article look and sound like crap.Joeldipops (talk) 02:42, 28 March 2008 (UTC)

Like Joeldipops said, they are an eyesore. 90% of information that ends up in them is either unsourced speculation, or entirely irrelevant (no one cares that someone's hat was a different color in this episode or whatever). The crap gets deleted (it's a policy to avoid these sections) and the rest is sourced and worked into the article. Only if there is something major (like a reaction to the Scientology episode) does it get its own section. Read the discussion on every single episode, and you'll find a similar discussion on trivia. Professor Chaos (talk) 03:27, 28 March 2008 (UTC)

Well i deleted one cos i hate them. this one was especially stupid, it said something like "This episode is the first time that season 12 had a 3rd episode" Was funny, but pointless so i deleted. Philbuck222 (talk) 08:19, 28 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Family Guy

I'm sure there was a Family Guy about licking toads. You know where Family Guy got the idea? There really are toads you can lick to get high. So unless you can prove with a link that it's a direct reference to Family Guy, this comment has no place whatsoever in the article. Also, claiming that Cartoon Wars I and Cartoon Wars II are separate references is retarded, since that's one single episode in two parts. Professor Chaos (talk) 03:30, 28 March 2008 (UTC)

The ep you're referring to is "Let's Go to the Hop", but also look up this article "Psychoactive toad" , and it states that toad licking is more of an urban legend. 70.240.79.180 (talk)

I agree that it's a reference to family guy! We should also note that since there was a woman in this episode, it's a reference to family guy... remember that one... where there was a woman? 129.97.237.101 (talk) 10:34, 28 March 2008 (UTC)

People have been talking about licking toads long before Family Guy, that's where Family Guy got the idea. UNLESS MATT OR TREY SAY IT'S A FAMILY GUY REFERENCE, IT IS OFFICIALLY NOT A REFERENCE!! The woman is also not from Family Guy, it's straight from Heavy Metal. Remember the episode "The Simpsons Already Did It"? South Park is to the point that most of their ideas have been touched on in one form or another by some show, Simpsons or Family Guy or whatever. This episode has nothing to do with Family Guy! Professor Chaos (talk) 18:18, 28 March 2008 (UTC)

The "woman" comment above is called SATIRE, which is ironic after all considering Trey's constant implementation of such a device. OH MY GOD! THERE WAS A BLUE SKY IN THIS EPISODE, SO IT MUST BE A REFERENCE TO THAT TIME WHEN THE SKY IN FAMILY GUY WAS BLUE! Just like when people edit the trivia sections to say "this is the first time the twelfth season has had a third episode"... they are satirizing some of the frivolous trivia that users tend to add. JESUS CHRIST I can't believe you actually thought that I meant the woman to be a reference to family guy! 129.97.237.101 (talk) 17:57, 30 March 2008 (UTC)

Tbh the first popular i can think of that used toad licking in an episode was actually the simpsons, (on a number of episodes if i remmeber)this is quite off topic btw. Philbuck222 (talk) 21:12, 28 March 2008 (UTC)

Forget about toad licking... Hypnotoad...

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Yeah stop mentioning that episode of Family Guy Strongsauce (talk) 02:51, 29 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Gerald flying B17?

What's the significance of this in relation to Heavy Metal? Strongsauce (talk) 11:02, 28 March 2008 (UTC)

>>> The significance is that one of the many vingetees from 'Heavy Metal' was set on a B-17!!!! MANY thanks to the South Park people for bringing "Heavy Metal" back. I was literally cheering the TV last nite as it unfolded. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 208.67.104.4 (talk) 14:25, 28 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] You guys ... seriously

If you're going to call a section "Influences", then for the love of God, restrict it to things that are actual influences. The current section is yet another revitalization of the Trivia section, and we all know what's going to happen to it. Phoenix1304 (talk) 13:19, 28 March 2008 (UTC)

Interestingly enough, I ironically made the influences section, and I agree with you that it's just more trivia. I felt in this case that there's enough of Heavy Metal and probably Schindler's List in here, that a compromise can be made to reasonably list similarities in plot from these two films. I don't like the term "influences," so if I or anyone else thinks of a better one please change it! I've never seen Heavy Metal, or Schindler's List, so I'm hoping someone can find real references to put there since there's little chance of keeping the section permanently deleted. We'll make it look good instead. Professor Chaos (talk) 18:15, 28 March 2008 (UTC)
I like it the way it is now, but we have to include sources. Is there a plot synopsis of Heavy Metal anywhere on the net? Phoenix1304 (talk) 19:08, 28 March 2008 (UTC)
On second thought, it might be a better idea to include all other influences in one "Influences from Other Media" section, and leave the Plot section as a barebones description of the plot only. But first there has to be a consensus about what actual influences were in the episode. Phoenix1304 (talk) 12:13, 29 March 2008 (UTC)
That was my intention by only calling the section "Influences." Problem is, that made it a catch-all. I was hoping, since I've never seen Heavy Metal or Schindler's List but am pretty sure List was in there quite a bit, that someone who does know would put good references in and we could trim the plot some more. Professor Chaos (talk) 17:25, 29 March 2008 (UTC)

Make these three elements the priority. Throwaway gags in reference to other things should be included, but only if there is a specific source that removes any ambiguity (i.e., none for this particular episode), and should not be given their own section. Also completely trim out all useless trivia, like "Mr. Kitty is shown to be male". This is something that could be easily surmised by watching the episode. It's been a really long time since I saw Schindler's List, and I don't really feel like watching it (it's LOOONG) for the sake of this article. From this point forward, if there is no source for a reference, it should be deleted without discussion. Phoenix1304 (talk) 18:25, 29 March 2008 (UTC)

I'm totally with you, good luck keeping up with that! It's always easier as soon as the next episode comes out and most of the idiots move on. I jump in once in awhile with a major cleanup, but mostly I'm busy with homework. Professor Chaos (talk) 19:00, 29 March 2008 (UTC)
I give up. I'm waiting until Canada on Strike airs before I do a single edit to this page - it always gets reverted to a worse edit anyway. Phoenix1304 (talk) 13:00, 31 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Influences & Mr. Kitty

Why is that listed under influences? Seriously. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 85.146.76.80 (talk) 03:25, 29 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Cartman's cat

Cartman's cat is a female cat, isn't it...??

No. Phoenix1304 (talk) 12:24, 30 March 2008 (UTC)
The name implies that it is but it was treated as female before this episode (the first one he/she has been in for a while and his first real role since the episode Cat Orgy) Ttony21 (talk) 14:23, 30 March 2008 (UTC)


[edit] Jenkem

Why are all the references to jenkem constantly deleted from this article. The main parody of this show is a parody of the jenkem media events that took place in 2007. The heavy metal paorody is only a secondary parody in the halucination scenes, yet someone keeps deleting the references to the episode being a parody of jenkem. Jpal55 (talk) 19:27, 31 March 2008 (UTC)

Look more carefully: "fermenting feces" near the end of the article links to Jenkem. Professor Chaos (talk) 12:30, 2 April 2008 (UTC)
Heavy Metal is by far the primary reference in this episode; jenkem is one of the many secondary influences. Phoenix1304 (talk) 15:16, 2 April 2008 (UTC)
Just my 2c: Being practically the whole premise of the episode isn't a secondary influence. The particular thing about Jenkem is how crazy it would be to outlaw it, same theme is clear in the beginning here. IMHO it does deserve a separate mention. SP almost always mocks a specific event, this is the one here. CP/M comm |Wikipedia Neutrality Project| 05:59, 5 April 2008 (UTC)
This episode was a bit different. There was a lot about that, but without a source you can't definitively say it here. The whole purpose (I think) of this episode was to show scenes similar to Heavy Metal. The drug thing took a backseat to that, and was mostly a vehicle to take the audience to the next Heavy Metal scene. The event parody wasn't so blatant this time. Professor Chaos (talk) 18:09, 6 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Firebirds and politicians

The list of Heavy Metal references is slightly wrong. It cites the Firebird as being similar to that drawn by the Re-entering astronaut at the start of the film. Actually, the astronaut drove a classic Corvette. It may also be worth mentioning the similarity of Taarna's bird and the blasted landscape from the movie, as well as the reproduction of several of the guard creatures (I think from the Den vignette of the movie).

The Spitzer tie-in is mentioned, and is correct as far as it goes. However, being a New Jersey resident, the first thing that came to my mind was Gov. Jim McGreevey's coming-out a couple of years ago. There does seem to be a pattern here (rather than Spitzer himself) that's worth mocking. CWuestefeld (talk) 19:58, 31 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Brasseye

I don't know if anyone's referenced it anywhere, but that Fox News report is a rip on a British TV series called Brasseye from a few years back, specifically the episodes on drugs and pedophilia. And the following debate in the town hall draws parallel with the question Brasseye caused to be asked in the UK house of commons about Cake, "the new drugs that kids take nowadays". Another spoof name for Cake was Khat

No, it isn't - it's merely a parody of Fox News's fine journalistic style! 81.96.251.179 (talk) 08:56, 4 April 2008 (UTC)

Agreed - Brasseye parodied everything from drugs to paedophilia. Dont forget Brasseye was mocking the media world and peoples intolerence in believing anything on the news! Chris Morris does indeed rock though. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 217.33.11.13 (talk) 08:38, 7 April 2008 (UTC)

I don't buy it, make this a good excuse to watch the drugs episode of Brasseye and some South Park again, and it really is blindingly obvious.

[edit] A Scanner Darkly

Isn't the last scene (Kenny and the flowers) a reference to Philip K. Dick's novel "A Scanner Darkly" ? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.77.241.68 (talk) 21:19, 11 April 2008 (UTC)