Talk:Mail art
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[edit] Cleopatra
Might state old maybe-joke saying that the first mail-art was when Cleopatra had herself delivered in a rolled-up carpet. --Daniel C. Boyer 15:31 15 Jul 2003 (UTC)
[edit] What is Mail art
What is Mail-Art for you?
Please state your name & answer:
[edit] First paragraphs
First paragraphs are inaccurate as they are confused between first-day covers with cachets and postal stationary. --Daniel C. Boyer 15:28, 9 Feb 2004 (UTC)
[edit] Wired Return to Sender
It would seem to me that Wired magazine's "Return to Sender" section would be an expression of mail art. Someone might want to work that in, or maybe it goes better somewhere else. —User:Mulad (talk) 02:41, Sep 19, 2004 (UTC)
- Uhh.. no, I'm not sure what you're talking about here, "Return to Sender" is common terminology in the postal industry unrelated to Mail Art, for all I know, the section in Wired has probably less to do with Mail Art and more to do with answering fanmail, possibly?--Mofomojo 06:32, 27 July 2006 (UTC)
"Return to Sender" is where people send in objects to Wired, and the best ones get published. It is definately mail art! Also, I added the link: mailart.info which is also mail art. it was deleted. it does not "promote" anyone. It is just a plain ol' Picasa album that shows about 3 years of correspondance. [-able][1]
[edit] CMA acronym
There are a sudden abundance of mentions of CMA and comparisons with ATCs, but nowhere does it was what CMA actually stands for - any ideas? MA are obviously Mail Art, but the C could stand for just about anything - collective? collectable? card?
Oops, and that was written by me, sheridan 15:19, August 25, 2005 (UTC)
[edit] MAIL ART NETWORKING
Hello to all Mail Artists and those interested in Mail Art; and hello again to all those Mail Artists with whom I corresponded between 1994 and 2001. It's been a long time since cLASSwAR Karaoke prowled the network. I am, though, not back,as it were. Life has moved on and I am occupied,very much so,with making soundart, improvised experimental music, and with my little blog at http://murmurists.blogspot.com - check out please, if you like. I still think fondly of the network; and do hope that the Internet has not wholly replaced the postal system as a way for like-mindsto come together in some way. The exchange of actual objects may protect it to some extent I suppose! Anyway, to those who knew me, I got the PhD in Mail Art. Thing is, I put the thing together using very outdated software on a very old AppleMac - which is now dead! I do not even have a copy of it myself! It is, however, soon to be available via the British Library, for those who are interested. I still think what I said about Mail Art was valid and well-researched, and is likely, still, to be if not the best then amongst the best researches into the subject. See for yourself if you will. Enjoy! It was a labour of love, and nearly killed me with the amount of work involved! Love to you all. And if anyone knows how to edit the info on this particular bit of the Wikipedia, then, humbly, I ask to have my name - Dov - inclded in the listing of Mail Artists! Best wishes, Dov / cLASSwAR Karaoke x x x x x
[edit] FREE trade?
The sixth paragraph states: "As an art form the early genre produced low- and high-minded works ranging from the comic and satirical through commercial and industrial advertising to the promotion of social causes such as free trade, world peace and brotherhood, and the abolition of slavery." "Free" trade doesn't seem typically stated as part of the same agenda as world peace and brotherhood, etc. Might this mean "fair trade"? 68.35.112.165 06:40, 20 March 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Pruning links and artists
I just cut the list of artists in half, removing the red links. Sorry if this steps on your toes, but it was seriously getting out of control. In my opinion -- if you want on the page, get an article and make it stick. The list of links deserves a serious pruning as well, I'll support anyone willing to dive in. See WP:EL. All the best -- send stickers! ∴ here…♠ 22:11, 25 July 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Odd tangent
As one of the mailartists in Los Angeles in the early 1980s, I find it strange that the actual process of mailart (sending postcards and other objects through the US Postal Service as performance art) gets two sentences, while the rise of personal computers, the internet and using a printer to produce envelopes gets four or five paragraphs.
Also, the computer tangent comes prior to the two relevant sentences. The overall impression of the article is that mailart is primarily a phenomenon of the digital age, when this is emphatically not the case. The entire history of the movement from the 50s through the 80s is essentially ignored. I am not qualified to write the history myself as I have not been active in twenty-five years, but do feel that the omission is important and should be noted. Perhaps some of the old-school mailartists could contribute their expertise. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 75.177.163.235 (talk) 03:45, 7 January 2007 (UTC).
- This article needs serious reworking overall, for the reasons you point out and more. Freshacconci 15:58, 22 February 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Proposed merge
I'm thinking this article can be stand alone. There's an extensive history to mail art which warrents an article. The current version needs major work, but I don't feel a merge is the solution. Freshacconci 16:00, 22 February 2007 (UTC).
I agree Mail-interviews has nothing to do with mail art see Envelope collective --Kylehamilton 00:03, 9 April 2007 (UTC)
- The merge proposes that Mail-interviews be merged into this article Mail art. It absolutely should! Both Envelope collective and Mail-interviews appear to be directly related to Mail art. Mail-interviews appears to be a specific work, or collection of works, within the field. If it is unrelated, why would that article begin: ...the body of which are now recognized as an influential contribution in the field of mail art. Mail-interviews does not appear to warrent its own article without further development. Unless expanded, the options are deletion or merging, likely into Mail art. ∴ here…♠ 21:34, 9 April 2007 (UTC)
The concept of the mail-interviews is quite specific. I wouldn't consider it mail-art, but a large research project to discover the essence of communication (mail) as a medium in art. Merge of not. The Mail-Art article needs work anyway. To many stories are not included and the general line is somehow lost.
Ruud Janssen (see www.iuoma.org for contact-details)
