Talk:Mahmud Ghazan

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[edit] Without him, the Middle East would not have become Islamic

It appears that this Mongol ruler, who decided to convert to Islam, had an enormous impact on history. Without him, the middle east might have become Buddhist. Appropriately, such an influential historical figure should have a better and expanded article. John Hyams 22:31, 6 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Arabic legend

Double silver dirham of Ghazan.^[1]
Obv: Legend in Arabic: ﻢﻠﺳﻭ ﻪﻴﻠﻋ ﻰﻠﺻ ﻪﻠﻟﺍﻝﻮﺳﺭ ﺪﻤﺤﻣ ﻪﻠﻟﺍﻻﺍﻪﻟﺍﻻ/ ﺰﻳﺮﺒﺗ ﺏﺮﺿ/ ... ﻊﺒﺳ ﺔﻨﺳ ﻰﻓ Lailahe illallah Muhammed resulullah salli aleyhe. Duribe Tebriz fi sene xxx.
Rev: Legend in Uyghur (except for "Ghazan Mahmud" in Arabic): Tengri-yin Küchündür. Ghazan Mahmud. Ghasanu Deledkegülügsen: "By the strength of the Heaven/ Ghazan Mahmud/ Coin struck for Ghazan".
Tabriz mint. 4.0gr. Silver.

Would anyone be able to translate the legend in Arabic on the coin of Ghazan?:
ﻢﻠﺳﻭ ﻪﻴﻠﻋ ﻰﻠﺻ ﻪﻠﻟﺍﻝﻮﺳﺭ ﺪﻤﺤﻣ ﻪﻠﻟﺍﻻﺍﻪﻟﺍﻻ/ ﺰﻳﺮﺒﺗ ﺏﺮﺿ/ ... ﻊﺒﺳ ﺔﻨﺳ ﻰﻓ Lailahe illallah Muhammed resulullah salli aleyhe. Duribe Tebriz fi sene xxx
It also seems that the Arabic date on the obverse of the coin is 692 AH.
Could any Arabic-reading Wikipedian confirm? Thank you! PHG 21:41, 30 November 2007 (UTC)

I am a native speaker of Arabic. Such ancient fonts are not easily read by modern Arab. "There is no God but Allah, Muhammed is His Prophet" is written on the left coin. I can read only Ghazan Mahmoud on the right coin and can't read the rest. --Meno25 21:56, 30 November 2007 (UTC)

Thank you!! I think the date is in the upper right corner of the face of the coin. Can you read 692 or something else? Regards. PHG 05:56, 1 December 2007 (UTC)

Mint: Bāzār. Date: AH 701 (AD 1301-1302). Aramgar (talk) 02:47, 16 January 2008 (UTC)

• Thank you for the great info! Would you be able to confirm the exact legend? Is it:

ﻢﻠﺳﻭ ﻪﻴﻠﻋ ﻰﻠﺻ ﻪﻠﻟﺍﻝﻮﺳﺭ ﺪﻤﺤﻣ ﻪﻠﻟﺍﻻﺍﻪﻟﺍﻻ/ ﺰﻳﺮﺒﺗ ﺏﺮﺿ/ ... ﻊﺒﺳ ﺔﻨﺳ ﻰﻓ Lailahe illallah Muhammed resulullah salli aleyhe. Duribe Bāzār fi sene 701 If so, would you have the capability to fill-in the arabic as well? Best regards. PHG (talk) 05:41, 16 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Article title

Wikipedia guidelines are that an article should be titled by the "most common name" that a subject is known. For this individual, I think that Ghazan or Ghazan Khan is more common. This would also bring the title into something more consistent with the other Ilkhanate leaders. What do other editors think? --Elonka 02:15, 6 March 2008 (UTC)