Talk:Mahmoud Hessaby

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[edit] Infinitely extended particles

Could someone please add more information about Infinitely extended particles? I couldn't find much about this. Mahanchian 00:12, 19 February 2006 (UTC)

[edit] The Hessaby hoax

There is some scepticism about the real value of what is much publicized (especially after his death) about his scientific achievements, his so-called "infinitely expanded particles" theory in particular. The reader is advised to look the entry in independent (not Iranian based) references. Ditto for his alleged status of being a favourite student of Einstein's.

Hessaby is deservably highly respected in Iran for his role in establishment of Tehran University. He had huge impact on the status of higher education in Iran. About his research works, I added his classic papers. Apparently "Légion d'honneur" is also a very prestigious award. Sangak 21:46, 2 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Prof. Hessabi's origin

here is mentioned that he was born in tehran. However everone who knows Hessabi better knows that he was from tafresh. please check and mention this. Babakexorramdin 07:18, 18 June 2007 (UTC)


[edit] Why to mix religion and science?

Taken out from the article: "At the age of seven he memorised the Qur'an by heart"

Why do we have to mix religion and science/history all the time? What the heck does it matter if he knew Quran by heart? Does this make him a better student of Einstein? Or does this imply his extensive knowledge in Physics? Maybe he also knew the Satanic Verses by heart beside Quran, would that make him a worse student in Physics? When do we learn from our mistakes and "leave the church in the village"?

Awful, two thumbs down! —Preceding unsigned comment added by Houmie (talk • contribs) 08:24, 11 September 2007 (UTC)

Hessaby was never the great scientist he is made out to be. He was a traditional Iranian (people who whether you like it or not are pretty religious) and he contributed a hell of a great deal to the advancement of science and education in our country, which is admirable. So no, it doesn't matter if he was religious (not that there's anything wrong with it to begin with), and if it doesn't matter, why are you so concerned? Alireza Hashemi

[edit] On the present biography

I must be forthright and state that the present biography is not befitting a scientist. The text is not professionally written and certainly should be modified - I have tried to put some dots on i's, but that is clearly insufficient. For example, to say solely that Professor Hessaby has had meetings with Dirac, etc, is at the very least patronising to him and his memory (at worst, disingenuous); if you are a physicist, then you will naturally come across a large number of very prominent physicists during your professional life; at his time, prominent people were Einstein, Dirac, Schrödinger, etc. One should state, instead, something about the issues having been discussed in such meetings (if such meetings have indeed taken place); that is what matters. I have further tried to look into the scientific papers; one of them is an abstract of the APS Meeting of 1947 in Montreal, which disqualifies it as a "Key" publication. A second one is a short announcement, more like an abstract (prior to the creation of Physical Review Letters, one published such short abstracts, firstly to announce a later-to-be-published long paper, and secondly to make a claim on having been the first to have come up with some original result); in my opinion, this brief announcement is short of being a "Key" publication. Further, "Key publications" need to include some more recent publications. At present, the latest publication dates from 1957 (and Professor Hessaby died in 1992). Finally, the biography fails to mention that Professor Hessaby has been a visiting scientist at the Institute for Advanced Studies in Princeton (in the publications that I have consulted (1947-1948), he gives his official affiliations as being Princeton University, Princeton Institute for Advanced Studies, and Tehran University). I am not familiar with the background of his position at the Institute, however there is a real possibility that his being a visiting scientist there does not make him a "student" of Einstein: at or around the time Einstein was the Director of the Institute (the Institute was in fact build around him) so that it would be technically incorrect to consider all visitors to this Institute as pupils of Einstein. The three papers/abstracts/anouncements that I have consulted (one full paper in the Proceedings of the American Academy of Sciences, one abstract, and one conference announcement/abstract) do not contain any acknowledgements, either to Einstein or to anybody else for that matter. This is relevant, since both students and post-doctoral researchers almost always thank their "teachers/supervisors" in their papers for suggesting the problem or for, say, fruitful discussions on the subject matter of the problem dealt with in the paper. Given this fact, I am inclined to believe that Professor Hessaby cannot rightfully be considered as having been Einstein's pupil. In saying so, I leave aside the fact that in 1947 Professor Hessaby has been 44 years old, so that calling him a "student of Einstein", at such an advanced age, is truly patronising. To summarise, the present biography leaves much to be desired. --BF 17:03, 16 September 2007 (UTC)

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