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In which sense is M. the most advanced state. Figures, facts?

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Good start, but let's work on NPOV here.

"Maharashtra is the most advanced state in India". Like the above poster, I'd like to know "advanced" how? Number of cell phones? Poets? Lithium mines?

"It has a glorious history" -- Every place likes to think it has a glorious history. Let's just stick with the supporting facts.

Contents 1 Advanced in India = 2 I Guess that satifies ur demand for figures 3 Temp page 4 Groundnut 5 State animal 6 Infobox 7 added a new template in the bottom 8 Maharashtra derives it's name from Mahars ?!?!? 9 Audio 10 What about Culture? 11 Second Capital? 12 Is Maharastra the largest state in India? 13 Head up ass 14 Leading industrial state. 15 Problem with map in Firefox 2.0.0.4 16 Said what? 17 Music 18 Vandalism 19 Forts and Trekking Spots 20 Bombay Skyline

[edit] Advanced in India =

We can say tha Maharashtra is the most advanced "Big" state in india as its GSDP is much higher than other states and its is most industrialised state in the country.~~~~

This is also teh state in which farmers commit most number of suicides every year for lack of ability to even feed themselves

[edit] I Guess that satifies ur demand for figures

I've added the figures from "Times of India" on the revenue collected from Maharashtra. Mahasrashtra adds about $20 Billion to New Delhi's cofers every year through taxes.

[edit] Temp page

Please see Wikipedia:Village pump (policy)#Temp pages for discussion of their use. I've removed the inappropriate message from the Article. Other editors should be aware that there is a Maharashtra/temp, and that this is being worked on in parallel with the article. They should therefore make any additions, excisions, corrections, etc., to both the article and the temp page. Mel Etitis (Μελ Ετητης) 11:02, 13 May 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Groundnut

This page links to the disambiguation page groundnut, but I'm not sure which sense is intended. Can you help? Thanks. — Pekinensis 20:40, 9 July 2005 (UTC)

I've linked it to peanut. User:Nichalp/sg 08:03, July 10, 2005 (UTC)

Thank you. — Pekinensis 12:38, 10 July 2005 (UTC)

[edit] State animal

State animal: shekroo (giant squirrel): Ratufa Indica User:Nichalp/sg 12:15, July 11, 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Infobox

Some of the entries are a bit obscure; what do "2nd" and "3rd" mean in this context? And what does "area magnitude=11 mean? --Mel Etitis (Μελ Ετητης) 20:48, 17 July 2005 (UTC)

The numbers are the ranking of the state with respect to population and area. For the magnitude see: Orders of magnitude (area). These fields are modelled on the Template:Infobox Country. See the India and Sweden pages for the implementation. See also: Wikipedia:WikiProject Indian states. User:Nichalp/sg 07:24, July 18, 2005 (UTC)

Thanks. I suppose that the worry I have is that the average reader is going to be as puzzled as I was; the box doesn't explain, and the use isn't obvious. Anyone involved in editing Wikipedia infoboxes will probably know, but we need to make it easily understandable for readers. Any ideas how that might be done? --Mel Etitis (Μελ Ετητης) 10:11, 18 July 2005 (UTC)

I know, the magnitude part is not known to the average user. But on the other hand, most fields are largely static and shouldn't face frequent editing. States are rarely split or created, so the magnitude should be static. Its not possible to add comments to these auto templates; the best thing to do I suppose is to check out the talk page where the link is present to the states' wikiproject. User:Nichalp/sg 10:33, July 18, 2005 (UTC)

[edit] added a new template in the bottom

I have added a new template in the bottom. Any comments??? This could be made dynamic once consensus is rcvd.

The reason for the new template is that there is no single place in the main Maharashtra article where all major cities and districts is located. Also, I think the seal needs to brought down from the infobox

Pizzadeliveryboy 22:13, 21 January 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Maharashtra derives it's name from Mahars ?!?!?

The earlier revision of the article stated such arrant nonsense as the word "Maharashtra" is derived from the word "Mahar" !!!! As a Maratha, I take severe objection to this demeaning statement. No historian nor any researcher has mentioned this thing. This is somebody's fertile (or, futile) imagination at work. Just check the etymology section on the Maratha page. It gives the perfect etymological origin of Maharashtra. A word like "Mahar", which was used to demean the lower-caste people, a word which is no longer constitutionally correct is being used to describe our holy land, the "Maharashtra". It's someone's ploy of maligning the Marathi public. But we'll certainly not let them succeed.

As far as "Maha rathi" is concerned, it is mentioned in many great historians, scholars and researchers' works inc. Lokmanya Tilak. For your information, "Maha" means great and "rathi" means charioter. So, literally the meaning becomes "Land of the great charioters". New Rock Star 18:27, 24 January 2006 (UTC)

My mistake - I was reading it as Maha Ratta and not Mahar Ratta.....Mahar Ratta is surely wrong - I havent found a ref to that POV anywhere except in some personal page in tripod....so that will go. However, rathi too is wrong since the correct word for charrioteer is sarathi, not rathi....rathi means valiant/great warrior.

Pizzadeliveryboy 19:12, 25 January 2006 (UTC)

Actually, that is one of the possibilities suggested on Maharashtra Govt website itself. Take a look at this link:http://www.maharashtra.gov.in/english/community/community_geo_profileShow.php

Another theory I read somewhere else(I am not sure where but I think it was either the Pearson IAS guide or Manorama year book) was that it is a derivative of the "Rashtrakuta" empire that existed before the Islamic conquests of the Deccan. Given that the Rashrakuta empire was located over western Deccan plateau and included most of modern Maharashtra, I feel this posibility may also be counted --Deepak D'Souza 10:29, 1 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Audio

I hve replaced the computer generated voice with my own. I feel that the computer voice was not having he proper intonation & that an Indian voice would be much better here. Hope thats not a problem.

Thanks

Srikeit^{(talk ¦ ✉)} 05:23, 27 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] What about Culture?

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Surely Maharashtra has a substantial cultural identity, so why is there no mention of culture so far in this article?

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good idea. suggestions for this section

• Tilak, role in freedom struggle
• ganeshotsav and other religious festivals
• maratha empire
• maratha forts built by shivaji and little kids today
• maharashtrian cuisine
• shiv sena, thackeray family, saamna
• distinction of mumbaikars, coast and khandesh
• not much idea of vidarbha culture myself, but should be added

added by user:tejas81

[edit] Second Capital?

An anon (24.7.93.43 (talk · contribs)) has just added that Nagpur is the second capital of Maharashtra. I highly doubt that this is true, but can someone re-affirm this? I can't seem to find any reliable resources to refute this. Thanks --Srikeit ^{(Talk | Email)} 06:57, 19 June 2006 (UTC)

It's not the "second" capital. The winter session of the legislative is held in Nagpur, so it can be called as a winter legislative capital. I've heard reports that Nagpur was supposed to be a "backup" capital, but no sources to back it up. We'll have to revert. =Nichalp «Talk»= 10:37, 19 June 2006 (UTC)

Thanks Nichalp. --Srikeit ^{(Talk | Email)} 10:41, 19 June 2006 (UTC)

I ("anon") was the person who wrote Nagpur is the second capital of Maharashtra. I grew up in Nagpur and it is correct that the winter session of the legislative assembly is held in Nagpur. I have always believed this ... but here are two references: Govt web site for Nagpur: http://nagpur.nic.in/ - check history section, last line (1960). Maharashtra IT Parks, Nagpur History Page: http://www.maharashtraitparks.com/itparks_about_nag.htm

Later,

- Neeraj,

"Second" capital would be too vague without expanding on the exact status. (Compare with Jammu/Srinagar) Mentioning it as the winter legislative capital would be the correct thing to say. =Nichalp «Talk»= 06:06, 26 June 2006 (UTC)

I think that is far. I made that change.

- N.

Let me rekindle this discussion. Nagpur is in fact the Second Capital of Maharashtra. History has it that Vidarbha had decided to join Maharashtra during the first state reorganization because of Nagpur pact. You can get a complete discussion of this from Indian Governments Rajya Sabha session dialogs mentioned here ^[1]. Open this link and search Nagpur. You would get it. I would try to find a better proof if you need more. I would changing the status of Nagpur in the article soon if I do not see anymore arguments. If you have anything more drop a message at gppande (talk) 14:14, 20 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Is Maharastra the largest state in India?

I see conflicting data throughout the article in terms of size of Maharastra. I do know for sure that Maharastra is not the largest state ofIndia, also as per the area_rank feild my belief seems to be true. But somehow there are places in the article which it be the largest and provide numbers according to the claim. Can someone provide a proper reference about actual size of Maharastra and how it compares to the rest of states in India? Kedar 23:52, 27 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Head up ass

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maharashtra says: Later, Maharashtra became a part of the Magadha empire, ruled by the Buddhist emperor Ashoka. But Magadha is on opposite coast, and covered link is geography, not an empire. Don't give non-sense links! —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 24.147.210.74 (talk) 17:28, 12 March 2007 (UTC).

[edit] Leading industrial state.

There is a contradiction in the articles refering to the states of Maharashtra and Gujarat. Both are listed by Wikipedia as the countries leading industrial state.

Maharashtra's is India's leading industrial state contributing 13% of national industrial output. 64.14% of the people are employed in agriculture and allied activities. Almost 46% of the GSDP is contributed by industry

Gujarat is a state in the Republic of India. With 19.8% of the country's total industrial output, it is the most industrialized state in India. 141.109.96.97 20:13, 7 April 2007 (UTC) Although I'm not sure if the numbers are correct, assuming that they are the distinction given to Maharashtra in this article is false.

[edit] Problem with map in Firefox 2.0.0.4

I'm using Firefox 2.0.0.4 and the map is not showing up in the main infobox at the top of the article. If I hover over it, it appears to be a link, and if I click on it I get the map on its page. Other SVG maps, such as for Andhra Pradesh or Karnataka, do show up just fine, but all I see is an empty box where this one should be. --38.115.151.134 22:53, 19 June 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Said what?

This paragraph is obtuse:

Prabhu Ramchandra touched this land previously known as 'Dandaka-Aranya' (Deep woods). Shri. Prabhu Ramchndra commenced his attack on Lanka from this land. Over the centuries, gradually this Dandaka-Aranya turned into the sacred Maharashtra. Religion, Philosophy, Technology, Arts, Knowledge, Bravery evolved here for centuries...Many dynasties from Satvahan to Shilahaar including Rashtrakut, Chalukya, Aadhin, Saindrikya, Kalchuri, Vakatak, Kadamba, Pallav etc. ruled Maharashtra rituously. Poets created Kavya-Kailas in this land. Sculptures crafted Kailas-kavya in black stones of Maharashtra.

Touched? Rituously?

and jumbled.

DrLeonP 08:10, 1 July 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for pointing the whole paragraph as obtuse. I was about to delete the whole paragraph. but thought I should mention it here first, wait for replies and then proceed to delete. "Prabhu raamchandra" is not exactly fit for history. The rest of the paragraph also sounds like a marketing pitch. The Kavya-Kailas and Kailas-kavya is 'brilliant' word play but not appropriate for wikipedia. I will delete the paragraph in a week if nobody replies with reasons why it should be kept. --Kaveri 19:00, 31 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Music

HI Kaveri, i have removed the new subsection related to music as it has been already been put under Entertainment. Incase you still want to havea seperate section for music. Then i think you wil have to edit the Entertainment secion too. in my opinion just club them and add your info (Asro 07:05, 2 August 2007 (UTC))

Well, I wanted to write about all the genres of music, especially classical Hindustani. Maharashtra after early 20th century became an important place for hindustani vocal and has remained so. I wanted to write about that. I think music should be part of culture than entertainment. Also, I was trying to follow the structure of some other states. I didn't pursue it further as I did not have enough time to rearrange the exsting content. But will do that in a week. Will leave a post here about what I intend to do before I actually rearrange content. --Kaveri 17:51, 6 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Vandalism

There was an attempt to 'Kannadize' the article. I have corrected the opening paragraph of the article. Please remember we are INDIANS and we should respect the other regions of the country which do not speak the same language as ours. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Sam.khawse (talk • contribs) 21:22, 30 September 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Forts and Trekking Spots

The list of forts in Maharashtra has been moved to a dedicated list page (needs work) to reduce the size of the article. An enthusiastic editor has also dumped the following list of trekking spots there. I thought it would be a waste to delete them. And so they are moved to below until we can find something better to do with them. - Mayuresh 16:32, 7 October 2007 (UTC)

101 Trekking spots in Sahyadris

[edit] Bombay Skyline

The B/W picture of the skyline is vertically stretched, the buildings are actually somewhat shorter. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 59.183.179.10 (talk) 20:03, 28 February 2008 (UTC)