Talk:Magnus V of Norway

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[edit] First Norwegian Crowning

...[Magnus] was the first Norwegian king to be crowned

In what sense? Was he the first to wear a crown, or the first to have a crowning ceremony? Was there no "becoming king" ceremony before? Top.Squark (talk) 13:17, 23 May 2008 (UTC)

Previously kings had been "elected" by acclamation at the things Fornadan (t) 10:05, 24 May 2008 (UTC)

So, no thing was held for the coronation of Magnus? Do I understand correctly that the main novelty of "crowning" is the involvement of a high ranking Christian priest (probably a bishop or an archbishop)? Top.Squark (talk) 13:25, 24 May 2008 (UTC)

According to the article about Magnus VII, the later was

...acclaimed as hereditary king of Norway at the thing of Haugathing...

so that tradition was not over.Top.Squark (talk) 13:33, 24 May 2008 (UTC)

The coronation (crowning) was a religious ceremony. It would be precided over by the archbishop, or in some cases, a papal legate (cardinal). It was not necessary to be crowned to be a king, but it signified that you had the church on your side. It didn't really have that much to do with becoming king, at this point. You became king by being acclaimed ("hylla" in Norwegian) at the Thing. This continued to be the case after the coronation ceremony was introduced, several kings after Magnus V were in fact never crowned, and Haakon Haakonsson was only crowned after 30 years on the throne, in 1247. So the coronation was a secondary event. Not until the 15th century had the system developed to the point where the king was not considered to really have taken the throne until after his coronation.--Barend (talk) 13:04, 25 May 2008 (UTC)