Talk:Magical objects in Harry Potter
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[edit] Fair use rationale for Image:The marauders map.jpg
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[edit] Beaded Handbag
I don't think Hermione's beaded handbag should be in the article. It is not a unique magical object, but one bewitched as any other object could be. If nobody responds in a few days, I'll assume that nobody disagrees. Malinaccier (talk • contribs) 01:15, 8 December 2007 (UTC)
- Alright, I'm deleting it. Malinaccier (talk) 01:54, 13 December 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Fair Warning
there is a lot of uncited information and fancruft in the article. I've removed some and tagged others. I'm going to wait a bit, and hope that a bunch of citations start showing up from reputable sources. If none does, I am going to start cleaning house. If the baby goes with the bathwater, so be it. :) - Arcayne (cast a spell) 11:17, 11 December 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Fictional
Is it really necessary to constantly repeat the word fictional? It is stated in the introduction that this article concerns a work of fiction. OrangeDog (talk) 22:11, 30 December 2007 (UTC)
- I have to agree. "Fictional" appears 70 times on the page after the initial opening, sometimes three times for a single item. I seriously doubt the removal would have people confuse them with a real "remembral" or "sneakoscope". -- Borameer ™ 23:12, 18 January 2008 (UTC)
- Furthermore, the series occasionally mentions objects or creatures that are (or are believed to be) fictional within the story, such as the cryptofauna sought by the Lovegoods. —Tamfang (talk) 23:07, 25 January 2008 (UTC)
Does anyone else have an input on this subject? If not, I will remove most instances of the word (except those fictional devices in the book), keeping the initial fictional heading for the books themselves. -- Borameer ™ 17:56, 28 January 2008 (UTC) Nevermind, Tamfang has already done this. Excellent work! -- Borameer ™ 17:58, 28 January 2008 (UTC)
[edit] Wizard's Chess
Could Wizard's chess be moved elsewhere here perhaps, or if that's not appropriate create a new page for it. ChessCreator (talk) 15:04, 16 February 2008 (UTC)
- No, as Wizard's chess is a game in the fictional world of Harry Potter therefore it's required in this article with any other magical object. --Jammy (talk) 18:24, 16 February 2008 (UTC)
- Okay. More info about the position is here from the composer if you are interested. ChessCreator (talk) 23:23, 22 February 2008 (UTC)
- Looked at creating Wizard's Chess as a separate article, but it seems it's not notable itself and would likely be later deleted, will add a little to the existing article. SunCreator (talk) 15:35, 24 April 2008 (UTC)
- Okay. More info about the position is here from the composer if you are interested. ChessCreator (talk) 23:23, 22 February 2008 (UTC)
[edit] Uses of Time-Turners
The tactical and strategical uses of Time-Turners should be fairly obvious, but here goes.
Tactical: if Time-Turners can go back only a matter of hours, someone can go back in time equipped with the known position of an enemy at a certain time. The Time-Turner can be used to scout and discover his position if it's not already known (if he can be discovered asleep, so much the better). A bunch of wizards then apparate behind the enemy and let loose the spells of their choice. Can also be used to help friends escape from danger, etc.
Strategical: if Time-Turners can go back decades, pick the enemy of your choice, and prevent his parents from meeting each other (if you have an understandable aversion to killing babies). The ultimate weapon, unanswerable unless the enemy and his friends are also equipped with them. Torve (talk) 10:17, 12 April 2008 (UTC)
- It's strongly implied in Prisoner that a Time-Turner cannot be used to change known events. —Tamfang (talk) 06:44, 16 May 2008 (UTC)
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- They can be used to change known events, otherwise, Hermione's comments about wizards who have messed around with time travel accidentally killing their past or future selves make little sense. Hermione stresses that it's illegal to change the past, not impossible. Notovny (talk) 18:11, 29 May 2008 (UTC)
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- It is impossible to change past events, because everything what the user of a time turner did in the past has already done by the user when he turns the time turner. Therefore it is impossible to resurrect dead people or save a house which has been burnt using a turner (no magical spell can save dead people). It is also impossible to a kill a person who is alive when the time turner is turned. He would be dead already. Dead people cannot use time turners, so it is impossible to for the user of time turner to kill his past self. The possibility of killing the user's past self is a white lie to keep the user from attempting something stupid. Sirius and Buckbeak were freed long before Harry and Hermione even thought about using a turner and Harry was saved by a mysterious person using a patronus (future Harry) - before Harry even knew what a time turner is.
- Another example: you leave a coin on a table. Someone steals it. You decide to use a time turner to see who stole it. You (future) decide to take the coin away for safety and a while later you realize that the "thief" was yourself. The past was not really changed. --85.156.238.210 (talk) 12:53, 5 June 2008 (UTC)
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