Talk:Magdalen College, Oxford

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Some mention of the fuss over the Laura Spence business? [ -- 195.157.146.246 13:18, 8 Nov 2004 (UTC)]

It was a nonsense PR tabloid fluff piece artificially created scandal designed for Mail readers to wring their hands over. Irrelevent, IMO.
James F. (talk) 13:28, 8 Nov 2004 (UTC)
To James F.: did you know that Magdalen College admission tutor Andrew Hobson used to be head of classics at your high school? :-) Arbitrary username 19:40, 3 August 2006 (UTC)
Think it's irrelevant to this page, but was fairly notable from a historical point of view. Miles underwood 16:25, 15 April 2006 (UTC)
I have created a page on it at Laura Spence Affair. I tend to agree with those who do not think it worth mentioning on the Magdelan page (as Magdelan itself was not the target of the row, more the whole Oxford University), but thought I'd post on here so that - if anyone chose to talk about it - they could be aware of the article's existence in the future Smeddlesboy 13:04, 15 October 2006 (UTC)

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[edit] History

"Magdalen College was founded 1458 in Oxford by William of Waynflete, Bishop of Winchester, originally as Magdalen. New educational ideas of the Renaissance era as well as new methods of teaching were tried out."

Was going to clean up the second sentence and a little research showd that not only was it poor grammar, but that it was lifted directly from the college's website.

My replacement sentence is far from satisfactory and the section far from complete. Perhaps someone who knows something about the college could help?

Also corrected the date per the college's website

Ben 22:00, 2005 Feb 25 (UTC)

[edit] Redirects

I've proposed a change of use for the Magdalen College and Magdalene College pages (currently disambiguation pages) over at Talk:Magdalen College, but it's not yet attracted any comment either for or against. Any thoughts? TSP 17:15, 24 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Current academics include John Stein, but the link is to a different John Stein. The Magdalen one is a physiologist, which the referred to one is a jazz muscian.

[edit] Laura Spence

I would second the above request for some mention of the Laura Spence case. The issue here is not anyone's POV on who was at fault, but simply a question of notability. Government ministers became involved, and the story was all over the mainstream media. Arbitrary username 19:27, 3 August 2006 (UTC)

see my comment above and the page at Laura Spence Affair Smeddlesboy 13:04, 15 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Edward VIII

Did Edward VIII really attend M.C.O? There is no mention of this on his wikipedia page, and furthermore, on Prince Charles' page it states that Charles was the first royal to attend university.--Jamesmh2006 03:30, 25 April 2007 (UTC)

I believe Charles was the first to attend "normally", meaning mostly in the same was as any other student. Note that Edward VII was in Oxford 1859-60, nominally a student at Christ Church; in practice he lived outside the college and was tutored seperately. George V never attended a university - solid naval career - but Edward VIII did indeed go to Magdalen, and lived there, for two years; I believe he left without taking a degree, which wasn't uncommon in those days. Shimgray | talk | 23:59, 11 October 2007 (UTC)

Can't find a good source for Edward VIII, but in any case other members of royalty have attended not only university but M.C.O. For example, Prince Arthur, the older brother of Henry VIII, spent a significant amount of time there, and Catherine of Aragon's original wedding tapestries are still hanging in the college. Prince Charles's assertion may depend on a certain definition of the word 'attend' which wasn't necessarily applicable until well after the Medieval period. This brings up a broader problem with wikipedia listings for Oxbridge colleges, which is that a great deal of important/interesting history about the colleges is 'well known' but difficult to document with sources other than internal documents kept by the colleges themselves. Not sure what to do about it - for now I'm holding off adding anything to the page though. John Borne 20:31, 30 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] pronunciation

the pronunciation was ambiguous. please correct me if I made mistake in clarifying it. as it is now, it's MAWD-leen. Or is the second vowel reduced? kwami (talk) 05:24, 21 December 2007 (UTC)

The second vowel is reduced, it's pronounced "MAWD-lin" not "MAWD-leen" but I don't know enough about IPA to correct it, although it looks like you may have already corrected your first edit. Hannaphrael (talk) 22:31, 4 January 2008 (UTC)
Thanks. I had gone ahead and changed the given pronunciation, because it seemed so unlikely. kwami (talk) 00:56, 5 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Hobbes

Can Hobbes be added to the alumni list?, he did attend Magdalen Hall (buildings are now part of Magdalen), and recieved his B.A. in 1608. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.21.45.159 (talk) 12:47, 4 May 2008 (UTC)