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[edit] Great work
I've been looking and it seems your contributions to Wikipedia have been very positive, and lots of good images too. Keep it up! GDonato (talk) 14:28, 9 July 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Invitation to Join WikiProject Crime
Would you like to upgrade from an honorary member to a full member of the Wikipedia:WikiProject Criminal Biography? Your work on the Mafia was greatly appreciated I think you would be a great asset to our project. As you said your an expert. Jmm6f488 07:43, 11 July 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Caruana Cuntrera articles and Halvorssen Hellum
The reference to their extradition from Venezuela is in the mouth of Venezuelan Senator Cristobal Fernandez Dalo in an article in July 1994 British GQ that i can email to you. I only have a PDF. Fernandez Dalo was the head of the commission on mafia and narcotics and money laundering in the Venezuelan Senate. He states Halvorssen as responsible for the investigation and extradition of them.70.23.3.191
[edit] Slaughter revisited
I appreciated the rationality with which you approached our previous discussion and particularly the appropriate and reasoned arguments you provided. Can you please weigh in on the use of 'slaughter' on Talk:The_Holocaust#NPOV_revisited?
[edit] The articles you contribute to have one huge failing
you barely cite any sources. you clearly are fascinated by the mafia. i suggest less adjectives, less POV and more actual research.70.18.194.64 05:51, 24 July 2007 (UTC)
- Dear whoever you are, your clearly new to Wikipedia. I think your remarks are a bit out of line. For instance your statement that the article on Calogero Vizzini lacks sources is simply not true. If you would bother to look at the bottom of the page you will find 12 sources and in the 27 references you will find more. That is considerably more than most articles on Wikipedia. A lot of the fact tags you added are in fact properly referenced. I suggest you read the references before you put a fact tag to it.
- For your information, look at the history tag at the top of the page and you will find who initiated an article and who contributed to it. In the case of the Luciano Leggio article, I did not start it and I have tried to give more sources and references.
- The first section of an article is an introduction to the topic and a short summary of what is in the rest of the article. You will find the sources and references there.
- Furthermore, you might lower your aggressive tone a bit. That is ussually not the way people communicate with each other. Wikipedia is a collective effort among civil people, not a battleground for insults.
- Your claim that there are too much adjectives and too much WP:POV in my contributions is also not true. If anything I try to avoid that and have deleted it as much as possible. I removed the tags you added where I think they are unfounded. I hope you will contribute more possitively in the future. - Mafia Expert 12:35, 24 July 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Your DYK nomination
I just wanted to make you aware of the fact that I have commented on your DYK nomination Girolamo Li Causi. The entry is unlikely to be used until the issue has been addressed. Please note that the top of the T:TDYK page asks nominators to: "Please check back for comments on your nomination. Responding to reasonable objections will help ensure that your article is listed."--Carabinieri 04:12, 13 September 2007 (UTC)
[edit] DYK: Gerlando Alberti
--PFHLai 03:26, 5 October 2007 (UTC)
[edit] DYK
--Carabinieri 15:56, 25 October 2007 (UTC)
[edit] DYK
--Carabinieri 13:35, 26 October 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Duplicate images uploaded
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[edit] DYK - Giuseppe Guttadauro
—Wknight94 (talk) 23:35, 31 October 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Disputed fair use rationale for Image:Lo Piccolo photofit.jpg
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[edit] Cosa Nostra
hi there,
i was just wondering why my edits were changed regarding the translation of Cosa Nostra? i added the phrase 'this thing of ours' to the page but it was removed. I am not questioning the accuracy of your change, however i was under the impression that 'this thing of ours' was a legitimate translation as it is used in various mafia based films and books, (namely The Sopranos and even a film called 'This Thing Of Ours'). Your explanation of your emission of my editing would be kindly appreciated
Danny —Preceding unsigned comment added by D4tis (talk • contribs) 16:02, 15 November 2007 (UTC)
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[edit] You are very welcome...
... and thank you for your high-quality and extensive work about cosa nostra and those who have fought this social cancer. --Analytikone 22:39, 2 December 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Image:Salvatore_Lo_Piccolo.jpg listed for deletion
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[edit] DYK
--EncycloPetey (talk) 14:45, 20 December 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Luciano Violante
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[edit] DYK
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[edit] Image copyright problem with Image:Libero Grassi.jpg
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[edit] Giuseppe Falsone
Why do you keep reverting the introduction to the incorrect form? Please see Wikipedia:Manual of Style (dates and numbers)#Dates of birth and death. MisfitToys (talk) 22:58, 5 January 2008 (UTC)
- Replying to your qestion on my talk page: see also Wikipedia:Manual of Style (biographies)#Opening paragraph. I've never seen the intro for an established article formatted the way the Falsone article is; when the place of birth is included, it's always noted as (born [date] in [place]), though I'll add that whenever articles are considered for FA status, there's seems to be an emphasis on removing the place of birth from the intro. MisfitToys (talk) 19:40, 7 January 2008 (UTC)
[edit] License tagging for Image:Jogo1.gif
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[edit] Calliopejen1 stamp purge of 2008
i was considering whether i should respond to each image just as you did, but couldn't decide whether it would dilute the impact of my statement. now that you've done it, before i plow ahead and join you, i was wondering if you know of a way to combine all of the stamp image nominations into one group? that way one vote could speak for the entire lot. --emerson7 01:50, 17 January 2008 (UTC)
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[edit] Totò Riina
In the article of BBC website there is written that Marino del Tronto where Riina was held in small proson-islands in Italy that is falsi. Marino del Tronto is in italian mainland and not in the north but in the central section of Italy. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Lucifero4 (talk • contribs) 12:54, 20 January 2008 (UTC)
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- The fact nobody uploaded a free image of Cuffaro in six months is not a good reason. Anyone might theorically take a photo of him since he's free, alive and well, and (as a politican) he is highly likely to attend public electoral speeches and manifestations, so a free alternative can be actually created and fair use becomes invalid (fails the first criterion). In any case, an admin will take a decision of his/her own in a couple of days, so I am neither available nor entitled to remove the notice. --Angelo (talk) 19:41, 26 January 2008 (UTC)
[edit] Image: 'Ndrangheta Code
If you think it may be of benefit, here is a higher resolution image,
from the same source [Family Crisis among the "Men of Honor"]:
Ndrangheta_code 1144x544 png image
That location is simply the only way I can think of to make the image available. I will delete it from that location within 2 weeks.
--RCopple (talk) 20:23, 11 February 2008 (UTC)
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[edit] Rollback
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[edit] Scampia feud copyright violations
Hi. Unfortunately I've had to revert a lot of well-referenced material in the Scampia feud article because some of it was copied directly from other sources. I was reluctant because you'd obviously put a lot of effort into finding the references, but you can't just copy stuff verbatim into Wikipedia like that. So feel free to rewrite the information in your own words - it's all there in the history still. However, I've proposed that the feud article be merged into the History section of the main Scampìa article, where it would benefit from the wider social and economic context of that article. Or at least the context that will come from that article when it's been expanded from its current fairly stubby state!
Two other minor things - it's helpful if you can tag the Talk pages of articles you work on with relevant WikiProjects, as I've done on eg Talk:Scampia feud. That way you bring the article to the attention of relevant specialists, who can work on expanding it. And just as a style thing, WP:SEEALSO discourages filling "See also" sections with links to articles already mentioned in the text of the article, it's more for related topics that don't fit naturally into the main text. Cheers FlagSteward (talk) 21:17, 30 March 2008 (UTC)
- I answered here - Mafia Expert (talk) 23:59, 3 April 2008 (UTC)
[edit] Pasquale Condello
--BorgQueen (talk) 17:04, 3 April 2008 (UTC)
[edit] RE your message about the redirect
You are slightly missing the point of a redirect - incorrect spelling in a redirect is absolutely permissable as it exists to pick up instances where a reader is trying to find an article but is spelling it incorrectly. e.g. Shakespear redirects to the correctly spelled Shakespeare and so on. This does not mean that Wikipedia is endorsing the incorrect spelling but is merely an acknowledgment that people mistype and make mistakes. Kind regards, nancy (talk) 10:40, 5 April 2008 (UTC)
[edit] 'ndrinas
That page is a redirect. It's very common to have redirects from alternate or even wrong spellings, to make navigation easier. It seems like a likely mistake for someone to make when looking for the subject, which is why multiple people have turned down your request to delete a redirect. Redirects are very cheap. Grandmasterka 17:46, 5 April 2008 (UTC)
[edit] Re: 'ndrine
A person not familiar with pluralisation of Italian words might naturally search for "'ndrinas". It is a convenience to them to have an entry for that word that redirects to "'ndrine". Like I said in the edit summary, it might be *wrong* but it's not *unlikely*. ... discospinster talk 19:46, 5 April 2008 (UTC)
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[edit] Mafia-SPECTRE alliance
What do you think? We'd kick ass together and the world would be shivering its its boots ♦Blofeld of SPECTRE♦ $1,000,000? 20:00, 10 April 2008 (UTC)
[edit] Your rollback use
Regarding this edit, you are not supposed to use rollback when reverting a legitimate edit. Use "undo" instead. And the user is doing a good work since the article shouldn't have a parent category and its subcategory together, unless there is a specific reason. Please see WP:CAT. --BorgQueen (talk) 10:37, 16 April 2008 (UTC)
[edit] The Mafia Artcile
Your truly a genius! Have you ever thought that a small bio with only a few facts will encourage the reader to go the larger article or maybe he might get the information what he needs just from the smaller bio. The amount of pathetic actions and bullshit that occur on this site by some of the administrators is exactly one reason why the organized crime/mafia section of the site has so many errors, false information and in some cases lack of important information regarding the article subject.
After you decidd that all the accurate information I added to the page was of no value and with that I point to my statement above which proves you wrong, I thought I might fix the other mistakes that you or some other Mafia Expert created in the Mafia Terminology" section, but I was blocked. What ever genius created that mixed up the terms relating to the hierarchies of the Sicilian Cosa Nostra (capo di tutti capi, consigliere), Calabrian Ndrnageta (capo-crimine, capo-bastone) and Sacra Corona Unita (sgarrista, picciotto and giovane d'onore), they even threw in a North American mafia term (caporegime).
For your information Italian mafia terms like capo-crimine are not traditional terms. That term or title is only used by the Calabrese mafia (the Ndrnagheta) and does not mean crime boss and capo-bastone does not mean club head and is not the underboss or seomnd in comand to the capo-crimine, he's the boss of the locale or crime family within the Ndrangheta. The crimine is the Ndrangheta council that is chosen every year to run various regions such as Reggio Calabria, Catanzaro, Cosenza, Crotone and Vibo Valentia.
Under American Cosa Nostra"' the same genius wrote that the American mafia known as La Cosa Nostra is an offshoot of the Sicilian mafia that emerged on the East Coast of the United States during the late 19th century. Are you kidding me or what? First of all the first Italian mafia groups were formed in the South, New Orleans to be exact and in the mid 1900s, around the mid 1860s. The Neapolitans were set up and organized around the same time as the Sicilians and there were also Calabrian mafia groups that emerged within the United States by the late 1800s. After the Cosa Nostra-Camora War that ended around 1919 (not Mafia-Camorra War, they were both mafia groups for the genius who coined that title) all the Italian mafia groups began to align themselves, but because the majority of American mafiosi and groups were Sicilian they went with the Sicilian structure, not because only the Sicilian mafia groups survived. In fact, the Genovese crime family was led by a majority of Calabrian and Neapolitan bosses and capos from 1932 up until the time Frank Costello and his regime were removed by Vito Genovese in 1957 and the Genovese himself was Neapolitan, not Sicilian.
- That is why the organization was called La Cosa Nostra, "This Thing of Ours", because of the mix of Italian crime groups as a whole, but dominated by a majarity of Sicilian bosses and Sicilian mafiosi. But even with that there is no proof that the Sicilian mafia in Sicily was called Cosa Nostra before the 1930s. In fact here is more proof to reinforce the notion that they took the name from the American mafia after WWII and the end of the fascist regime, before that the organization was called "The Honored Society like in Calabria. The Neapolitan Camorra is the oldest Italian mafia group and then the Calabrian Ndrangheta, only those two organization in Italy had their names for centuries, not the Sicilian mafia as I stated.
You guys do't know your as from a whole in the ground. You guys just spew the same regurgitated shit from books and articles that has been re-written over and over again for decades, do some real research and you'll see that basically 3/4 of the earliest American mafia history can be re-written and added to, while the rest of the information from the 1930s-60s is questionable at best, other than the basic stuff such as the names of the main players and what crime families and factions they belonged to and were affiliated with.
BTW, Mr. "Mafia Expert", once again Luciano Leggio is the former boss of the Corlonesi cla, not Luciano Liggio, that was an alias he used while he was on the run and a mistake made by an Italian newspaper. I see yopu allowed the correction I made to Michele Navarra, he was boss of the Corleonesi from around 1943, not the 1930s like the article stated earlier, Calogero Lo Blue was the boss before him. The Lo Blue clan is still prominent in Corleone, members of the family were the ones arrested for hiding Bernardo Provenzano and helping him. Michele "The Pope" Greco, cousin to Salvatore "Little Bird" Greco was the boss of the mafia clan of Croceverde, but he was the boss of the Ciaculli cosca, you people still don't understand the difference between clans and cosche do you? Benedetto "Nitto" Santapaola is no longer the most important boss in Catania, he and his clan started losing power by the late 1990s and within a few years of the new millennium the Ercolano-Mangion clan starting usuroping the power of the Santapola-Ferrera-Rome clan, the core clan of the Catania cosca tyhat once ruled undisputed. In fact it use to be the Santapaola-Ercolnao-Ferrera-Romeo clan, all of them are related, but Nitto Santapaola pout a hit out on Pippo Ercolano around 2004. Pippo is the father of Aldo Ercolano, Nitto's cousin and former right-hand-man who went to prison with him, but now they do not get along and hate each other because the new alliance the Ercolano clan has created with the Mangion clan through marriage has shifted power and influence in catania to them as they receive more support from other Catania clans not aligned with the Santapaolas. That is why Nitto wanted to hit his own cousin, because the Ercolano clan is continuously gaining power and influence, they have been since the early millennium, where have you been? In fact, the Ercolano-Mangion clan may have been the ones supporting the La Rocca clan when in 2004 they wanted to hit Umberto Di Fazio the "reggente" (acting boss) of the Canatia cosca for Nitto Santapaola since 1995. Di Fazio became a pentito immediately after being captured near the province of Enna because he new the majority support within the Catania mafia for Nitto and his clan was coming to an end and he was finished himself.
Go back to sleep gentlemen or do the Wikipedia readers a favor and do some research and maybe then you guys can fix all your mistakes because I'm done trying to fix all the mistakes I find. I have already gotten rid of my Buffalo crime family userpage. The organized crime/mafia section is a joke, but keep up the good work, Mr. Mafia Expert. If you ever become a college professor and start teach a course on the mafia let me know, I would love to check out the class!
Did I say keep up the good work, I meant keep up the bad work. When it Homes to the mafia I have forgotten the amount that you know. You better start doing some real research, that includes doesn't include just reading books, it includes early and current newspaper articles or archives, birth, immigration and death records and law enforcement records.
Maybe you should get a hold of author Phil Carlo (The Iceman) and ask him to assist you on correcting and adding information to the organized crime/mafia section of Wikipedia. His credibility is about the same as most of the organized crime/mafia section mediators on Wikipedia.
Little Joe Shots
- I don't know exactly what you’re trying to say here or who you are addressing. Your mind is as distorted as your spelling. - Mafia Expert (talk) 15:43, 22 April 2008 (UTC)
[edit] hey man
Pasquale Condello has relatives in Australia my grandmother was his sister when she herd the news of the arrest she broke down so i think you need to get you facts right —Preceding unsigned comment added by 58.104.91.91 (talk) 03:26, 26 April 2008 (UTC)
[edit] Birthplace
Ciao! A little not of style... according to WP:Manual of Style (don't know where exactly in that huge page), the birthplace can be put in-line iwtihn the article, while the birtdate should have frst "born June 5, 1930" etc. I w rote you this as I was you reverted my edit in this type at Corrado Carnevale. For the rest, compliment for your wonderful job here! Miezzega!! --Attilios (talk) 10:18, 29 April 2008 (UTC)
- Ciao again! I must not agree with you. I've checked the MOS, and found the page where it's precisely stated that places of birth must be in the following text, not along dates of b/d: see Manual of Style#dates and numbers. Ciao and good work! --Attilios (talk) 23:28, 29 April 2008 (UTC)
- Again, I reverted your de-edits at Giovanni Falcone. Be sure: far from me to start an edit war with such a good editor like you. If I did, it's for I'm sure of the style asked at that page which you maybe visited. Ciao and keep good working as usual. --Attilios (talk) 13:23, 3 May 2008 (UTC)
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