User talk:Maelor

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[edit] Great Photos of Sligo

I love the photos you took of Sligo, some very simple but eye-catching. Luckily the weather here was good on the Ba nk Holiday weekend. The.Q 15:42, 15 June 2006 (UTC)

Hi Q!
My photos are always simple, nothing arty-farty here! The weather was gorgeous but I appreciated the cool breeze at the top of Knocknarea!!! SligoLive was excellent.
--maelor 15:47, 15 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Informal advice

Hi. If you're new around here, it's probably best to avoid the subject of whether "traditional counties" exist or not (e.g. whether Merionethshire still exists). If anyone dares to suggest that it doesn't, then somebody will very (very) likely jump on it very quickly. This is a very touchy subject on Wikipedia: some people have very passionate views about it (see Talk:Traditional counties of England, for instance). Like I say, tread very carefully. In the meantime, keep up the good work, especially with the photographs! --RFBailey 18:35, 19 June 2006 (UTC)

Hi. I've already had some flack from the Flat Earth Society. "There are none so blind as those who will not see!"
Can you see anything wrong with replacing the phrase:
"It is the county town of the traditional county of Merionethshire (Meirionydd)."
with:
"It was the county town of the traditional county of Merionethshire (Meirionydd) but following the re-organisation of local government in 1974 it became part of the new county of Gwynedd."
--maelor 18:52, 19 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] "Traditional counties" vandalism

If you want to understand what is going on at the Welsh local government articles, you would be very well advised to read:

All of the "traditional counties" (sic) articles are being persistently targeted by members of these organisations.

Good luck in trying to bring some NPOV back to these topics. I am willing to assist, so please keep me informed of any vandalism incidents you spot. --Mais oui! 19:27, 19 June 2006 (UTC)

Thanks! I have already been following your discussions with the 'Flat Earth Society'.
--maelor 19:41, 19 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Some support

Hi there! Was just looking back at a message left for User:Mais oui! and found you had also left a message of simillar content! You seem to take an interest in the whole counties issue.

It is apparent that we hold the exact principles this matter, and trust you have read the official Wikipedia conventions (places) - which dictate that modern geography (as understood to be post 1974) is the one which we should indeed use. Historic counties should be placed as an afternote or secondary.

Do please becareful not to provoke arguements and/or become too frustrated with edit patterns - County Watch vandals can be highly targetted.

Anyway, like I said to Mais oui!, the County Watch vandals are very well organised, and can be highly focussed, should you ever need support or just a chat about this matter, do please feel free to message me, and don't forget we have the full backing of Wikipedia. Thanks for your time, keep up the good work, Jhamez84 22:39, 20 June 2006 (UTC)

Thanks Jhamez. Appreciated!
--maelor 14:15, 21 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Welcome to VandalProof!

Thank you for your interest in VandalProof, Maelor! You have now been added to the list of authorized users, so if you haven't already, simply download and install VandalProof from our main page. If you have any questions, please feel free to contact me or any other moderator, or you can post a message on the discussion page. - Glen 06:12, 22 June 2006 (UTC)

Thanks! An excellent tool.
--maelor 11:35, 22 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] John Rhys-Davies

According to the page here, he was born in Ammanford, Carmarthenshire, Wales but the IMDB says he was born in Salisbury, Wiltshire, England, UK. Do you know which is right? GusF 00:02, 24 June 2006 (UTC)

No idea, but he has a home page which is "coming soon". I guess we'll have to wait to find out? But a least I've removed the Manx People cat.
--maelor 23:04, 24 June 2006 (UTC)
I've taken a quick look and the Ammanford link looks correct (at least the BBC have it as do a lot of other web sites). So best to leave it at that?
--maelor 23:07, 24 June 2006 (UTC)
Screwed up badly! He was born in Salisbury. I misread it. Corrected.
--maelor 23:18, 24 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Flintshire

I don't think User:Owain is taking an anti-Welsh language stance by his edit on Flintshire. He has given an explaination of his edit which I agree with. The Welsh language name for the item has is best given in the article and including them all over the place in an English language article decreases readability. If you wish to promote the Welsh language, what would be more constructive is to expand the Welsh language version of the article at: Sir y Fflint - Wicipedia. I don't believe Owain is anti Welsh language, he has on numerous occasions, added Welsh to articles I've created and amended my Welsh. (Sloman 15:06, 28 June 2006 (UTC))

[edit] A chance for peace

Hi again, how are you? Hope you are keeping up the excellent work!

As someone who takes an interest in this field (and conversed with some of its affiliates), I thought I'd bring your attention to A proposal to delete the Traditional Counties Advocates user category.

I'll be as impartial as possible, and let you read the discussion and come to your own conclusions(!). It'd be great to have your input on this subject, however.

Hope all is well, Jhamez84 21:50, 3 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Crasdant

Helô Maelor, Sud wt ti?

Mi wna i sgwennu erthygl am Crasdant a gofyn i'r hogia ydyn nhw'n fodlon arni, a'i hanfon ymlaen. Iawn?

Telynor Cymru II

Diolch. --maelor 16:54, 4 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Database lag

We're having an issue with database lag at the moment -- I'm not a vandal, and in 35,000 edits I haven't vandalised yet, I promise. Sometimes when you rollback you seem to get the "wrong" version. Looks like it's fixed now. Cheers, Antandrus (talk) 15:45, 5 July 2006 (UTC)

Sorry that message was sent out by VP not me! I realise it was nothing to do with you. I had to rollback Handedness about 5 times due to vandalism by 82.32.145.31 --maelor 15:48, 5 July 2006 (UTC)
Wow--this is weird: [1] -- I've never had the admin rollback tool fail before. Thanks for your help vs. the AOL vandal. Happy editing, Antandrus (talk) 15:50, 5 July 2006 (UTC)
Hi again. I've just noticed you're an Admin so I'll leave it to you to sort out! --maelor 15:54, 5 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Call for consensus on fan site list on Andy Murray page

Hello Maelor,

You've probably noticed my (probably foolhardy) attempt to resolve the edit war on the Andy Murray page regarding fansites. The protagonists do not look about to resolve it among themselves, so I'd appreciate it if you and other regular editors could express your views on this part of the page, so that we can stop the war going forward, or at least block a protagonist who persists in it. Please come to the talk page here

The questions I've put are:

Please can I have the opinions of those who regularly edit this site:

1.Should there be a list of fansites?

2.Should it be ordered

a) alphabetically
b) by site's popularity or quality
c) by some other factor

3. If by popularity/quality how to judge this?

Thanks RobbieC 21:06, 5 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Hello Maelor

Are you named after the hospital? Proto///type 20:19, 11 July 2006 (UTC)

Duh! No the place Maelor
-- Maelor  20:21, 11 July 2006 (UTC)
Ohhh, ok. Not far off! Proto::type 11:33, 12 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Flags of Wales

Hi Maelor I can see all four of the flags in the Gallery on my PC. I wonder why three don't show on yours? Rhion 11:50, 16 July 2006 (UTC)

I always get problems when people use Galleries!!! I get the same problem with Firefox, IE7 and Opera.
Must be my system? I'll see if a can find any other refernces to the problem. Thanks.

-- Maelor  11:55, 16 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Overton-on-Dee

To answer your question the county borough page was pointing to 'Overton' (a disambig page) as was the Tim Vincent page. I changed them both to Overton, Wrexham not realising there was the abovenamed article already in existence. On creating the Overton, Wrexham page I then (at the last moment) discovered that Overton-on-Dee and Overton, Wrexham are the same place and made my new page into a redirect. Time then ran out to alter the other two - but I did do 'List of United Kingdom places' which is where I came in. Please look back and you will see I changed neither from Overton-on-Dee. Saga City 15:41, 16 July 2006 (UTC)

Apologies! My fault entirely. When I added to the Wrexham CB page on July 12 I gave an incorrect internal link! The bad link on the Tim Vincent page has been there since April. I just spotted your edit and hadn't checked back further.
-- Maelor  16:23, 16 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Vandal Proof abuse report

I am about to post a section of the questionable edit history. Though I would ask that you post links yourself to what you feel is abuse of vandalproof.

Links to page historys can be done in the following format. [<Url of page wanted><single space><short discription of problem>]
  • an example- [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Maelor&action=edit&section=new Link to post a new message to Maelor] which appears like this... Link to post a new message to Maelor.

Thank you for your concern. Eagle talk 22:35, 17 July 2006 (UTC)

Oh and respond on my talk page, thanks Eagle talk 22:36, 17 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Welsh music stub

Hi Maelor

Yes, I think a Welsh music stub would be a very good idea. Perhaps somebody could create one with a suitable little graphic - it might be a good idea to ask on the talk page of the Welsh Wikipedians Notice Board. Rhion 18:53, 19 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Ynys Môn Pronunciation

Sorry about the delay - I was away. The pronunciation by those living on the island ( as translated into english phonetics) is something like:- Un (as in bun - southern english version) iss ( as in hiss) Morn (as in morning) or Mawn (as in Dawn). I also struggle with IPA and the purists may well object !

Mrs Trellis 11:10, 21 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Blanking talk page

Please don't blank the contents of your talk page: it's considered bad form. If you want to remove "old stuff", it's better to create an archive instead. See Wikipedia:How to archive a talk page for how to do this. Sorry, --RFBailey 21:25, 10 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] image

Image:Llwybr clawdd offa.jpg - nice pic but:

  • why on earth have you uploaded it here? The Commons is the proper place so you can use in the Cymraeg wiki also.
  • you left a {{db-noncom}} tag in place and failed to apply a {{PD-self}} tag properly.

See for example en:Owen Morgan Edwards and cy:Owen Morgan Edwards using the same image - and would you please caption the image in the Cymraeg article - I hate to pollute the page with English. -- RHaworth 06:54, 20 August 2006 (UTC)

"A life spent making mistakes is not only more honorable, but more useful than a life spent doing nothing. (GBS)".
If you want changes made please adopt a more civil approach!
-- Maelor  11:06, 21 August 2006 (UTC)
Couldn't agree more ! Mrs Trellis 11:20, 21 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] WTF?

What's your problem with my Bush Quotes? 132.241.246.111 17:50, 22 August 2006 (UTC)

Ok I see what you mean and will give you the benefit of the doubt. Put it back in but others me decide it's not relevant. Have you considered registering with Wikipedia as anonymouus users are always treated with suspicion?
-- Maelor  17:55, 22 August 2006 (UTC)

Could you do it so I don't have to exceed the revert rule? 132.241.246.111 17:58, 22 August 2006 (UTC)

Hi again. I've checked with admins and they suggest that it needs re-writing. It's formatted badly for a WP article (which is why I reverted in the first place) because it needs an explanation as to why it's there (not just a quote). Can you integrate it into the content of the article and link to the external site?

-- Maelor  18:31, 22 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Aberdovey

See National Assembly for Wales, Ordnance Survey, &c. Owain (talk)

And as I have already pointed out, see The National Assembly document http://new.wales.gov.uk/topics/localgovernment/localauthorities/gwyneddcouncil/?lang=en (a bit more appropriate to local government than the flower show article?) gives Aberdyfi as does the BBC site http://www.bbc.co.uk/wales/northwest/sites/aberdyfi/
you should also take a look at the title of the article!!!
-- Maelor  14:41, 25 August 2006 (UTC)
You have already pointed those out. I have pointed out counter-examples that prove there is a well-known English-language name. As this is the English-language Wikipedia the English-language name should be used. As for the title of the article, you well know that you cannot use Wikipedia as a reference in Wikipedia. It can and will be moved to the correct Aberdovey. Owain (talk) 14:46, 25 August 2006 (UTC)
Any changes to an article title should, of course, be a matter for general discussion.
-- Maelor  15:21, 25 August 2006 (UTC)

Hi Maelor

I'll check this with Gwynedd Council - I suspect that Aberdyfi is now the official form but we'll see what the official list says. There probably won't be a reply until after the Bank Holiday now though. Rhion 15:25, 25 August 2006 (UTC)

Hi Maelor.
I've always written it Aberdyfi, and I'd assumed that "Aberdovey" had gone the way of "Caernarvon" and "Conway". So the Gwynedd council document you said that Owain cites surprises me. But there are also pages on their website that give Aberdyfi instead:
[2] or :[3] or :[4].
Their Gwynedd road map has both (with Aberdyfi first): :[5].
Puzzled by this, I asked a solicitor I know at the council, and she says "Aberdyfi" is the standard now, adding that "I think some of the English residents spell it Aberdovey, but I rarely see it these days". Not a formal statement on behalf of the council but still... And anyway, I certainly don't know anyone who writes "River Dovey" or "Dovey valley". Maybe we could change the beginning of the article from
Aberdyfi (formerly Aberdovey in English)
to
Aberdyfi (sometimes Aberdovey in English)
That seems the best solution to me. I'd certainly be against moving it to Aberdovey. garik 17:37, 25 August 2006 (UTC)
The person in charge of these things at Gwynedd is on leave this week. I've left her an e-mail. The general view from several members of Gwynedd staff is that it should be "Aberdyfi" on the English version of the Gwynedd web site too. The first person I asked, when told that "Aberdovey" appeared on the Council website responded "Oh my God, I hope it wasn't me that put it there!". Rhion 08:12, 29 August 2006 (UTC)
Thanks Rhion. I've also discovered that the local tourism brochure for the town (written in English) has "Aberdyfi" written in large letters across the front! Not a leg to stand on?
-- Maelor  14:48, 29 August 2006 (UTC)
Hi Maelor, I too have been making enquiries regarding Aberdyfi over the weekend, and was actually told by someone in Gwynedd Planning Dept that it is spelled "Aberdovey". However, said official went away to look at a map to check, and indeed my OS map spells it like this. Whatever the situation, it's clearly not as black & white as (e.g.) Dolgelley & Portmadoc which "officiall" became Dolgellau & Porthmadog in the 70's. Neither is it like Cardiff, which is really only "Caerdydd" to Welsh speakers. But whilst it is in this slightly grey area, by far the majority of references refer to Aberdyfi, as you say (no real point in referring to "speakers" - many say the place but don't need to spell it!) and I think that the suggestion to use "... sometimes Aberdovey" is an ideal solution. I'd like to know exactly what the town sign says though ... Hogyn Lleol 16:06, 29 August 2006 (UTC)
No idea about the road sign (but I could guess!) but take a look at http://www.aberdyfi.org/ and click on "Tourism Office". Look at the image there!
Also note their comment "Don't try 'Aberdovey' on Autoroute - you'll never find us!".
-- Maelor  17:38, 29 August 2006 (UTC)
Helo Maelor, Thought I'd let you know I fully support you on Aberdyfi. When I saw ABERDOVEY in the info box I changed it to ABERDYFI but a certain user changed it back to the anglicised spelling (three times!), even though the last time I compromised by putting ABERDYFI / ABERDOVEY (as it seems both are recognised by the P.O.). Why can't some people accept and respect the Welsh language? Does wikipedia have an official policy guideline on this issue, as i keeps recurring. Some users seem really concerned to keep the use of Welsh language personal and place names (i.e. the true names) to a bare minimum in Welsh articles. En.wikipedia is a widely used resource - with this attitude is it any wonder people from other countries seem surprised to find that Cymru actually has a language of its own?! How do we resolve this? I don't want to spend half my time on en.wikipedia undoing intolerant edits. Enaidmawr 16:18, 7 September 2006 (UTC)
Small revision. Bilingual version has actually survived 20 minutes so far! Enaidmawr 16:22, 7 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Atlantic Ocean

Well done! Your edit stalking and blind reverting of perfectly valid edits has resulted in the page being protected. If you'd like to explain yourself, I'm all ears. Owain (talk) 17:25, 25 August 2006 (UTC)

I requested that the article be protected in its original format. I have made no contribution to the article but respect the views of the people who did. The whole issue of your negative and highly biased edits of any references to England/Scotland/Wales and to outdated placenames is about to be taken to ANI.
-- Maelor  17:29, 25 August 2006 (UTC)
I protected the article as I see otherwise fine editors on the verge of breaking the three revert rule, please take it as a 'cool down' signal, I don't see any pointers in the Manual of Style, where's best to resolve the issue. --Alf melmac 17:39, 25 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Names of places

Saw your post on WP:AN/I. Have you tried looking at Wikipedia:Naming conventions (settlements)#United Kingdom? According to that guideline the convention for UK is to refer to settlements as [[placename]] unless disambiguation is needed and then it is [[placename, county]]. I'm not up on my counties in the UK, so can't provide any guidance beyond that. --Bobblehead 23:04, 28 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] WSMR

Yes thank you for pointing it out. Feel free to correct it if you want Simply south 21:51, 29 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Rhos & Ponciau

Hello Maelor,

I haven't been on Wikipedia for a while, however I did find a few things which may interest you:

This link has a photo of Prince Edwards visit to ponciau banks: http://www.ingenious.org.uk/See/Societyandwars/Socialandeconomiclife/?target=SeeLarge&ObjectID={CA84DD88-6F9C-5341-F270-6B4D48E2A522}&viewby=images

Also:

This page shows some evidence of Jacko's meaning Jacobites (See last paragraph):

http://www.ruabon.com/newbridge.html

Regards,

Jaseman125


[edit] Westwood House Vicarage La, Gresford, Wrexham, LL12 8US

Hi Maelor,

Do you have any idea where I can find the origins of the name Westwood House, Gresford, Wrexham?

Regards,

Eltharian 17 April 2007

[edit] WP:CVU status

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[edit] Bagadou

Hello Maelor,

Just to say thanks for your work in 'tidying up' the 'bagad' entry. It was I that adjusted the entry a few days before your latest edits, mainly correcting the list of recent champions while also tipping a wink at Quic-en-Groigne's recent (though relative) success.

Keep up the good work!

Steve

le Minihic sur Rance 24.02.2008

Trugarez vras! -- Maelor  12:01, 19 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] RE:Commons

When you move an image to commons, be sure to place the tag subst:ncd on the images.(Not bold though) If you change the name of the image, you put subst:ncd|"New Image Name.jpg" where the new image name is what you named it. They will automatically be deleted over time, and the pathways will be automatically fixed. Undeath (talk) 12:03, 28 March 2008 (UTC)

Thanks. I'm going to have to check a lot of moved images!!! -- Maelor  12:05, 28 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Dialling codes

Hi Maelor, sut mae? I don't know if the list of Wales dialling codes is on your watch list, but in case it isn't I thought maybe you'd be interested to know it has been moved to List of UK dialling codes covering Wales‎ (I kid you not!). Enaidmawr (talk) 22:46, 30 April 2008 (UTC)

Hi. It may be a pedantic change but technically he is correct, as all dialling codes in Wales are preceded by the international code +44. I think the change is acceptable. -- Maelor  15:28, 2 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Sospan Fach

Are you certain about "scramo"? I'm sure it was "scrapo" when I learnt it in school. Is this a north-south difference? Marky-Son (talk) 22:51, 1 June 2008 (UTC)

I agree!!! As you can see, someone keeps changing the words and I suspect that they are getting them from a book! The English version bore no resemblance to the Welsh. So I suspect a non-Welsh speaker. The Welsh for to scratch is crafu so I assume the word is some south-west dialectic version? The original word I put in was scrafo, which seems to match up with the dictionary entry? Anyway, lets change it back! -- Maelor  09:49, 2 June 2008 (UTC)