Talk:Madonna-whore complex

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Contents 1 Redirects 2 Merged articles 3 Personal experience 4 Film Reference

[edit] Redirects

Was Freud's idea originally called (in English) "madonna prostitute"? And don't many people call it "virgin whore"? And syndrome sometimes, instead of complex. Just mentioning it in case anyone wants to put the redirects in. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.174.107.130 (talk) 17:22, 25 September 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Merged articles

I created the other article on the same topic at about the same time and don't see the merge as controversial so I'm going go ahead and do it right away. — mako 17:24, 4 January 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Personal experience

The article states that the "Madonna" and "Whore" are mutually exclusive states. From experience with real women, I do not believe this is objectively true. What appears to be true is this: The belief the "Madonna" and "Whore" are mutually exclusive states is what causes damage in relationships. The belief is self-limiting: believe these are mutually exclusive, they will be. It's self-fulfilling: believe that your "madonna" is above base, sexual impulses, she will certainly never act like the whore of your pornographic dreams. With you.

From personal experience it is possible to love, protect and treasure a woman with whom sexual relations are the stuff of fantasy. Hers and mine.

I don't know where to go with the article though. My personal experience apparently runs 180 degrees from society's expectations and from most men's experience. Attempting to draw a line dividing fact from fiction seems impossible.

Doolin 19:25, 28 December 2006 (UTC)

I suspect many people's personal experience is very different than what is described in this page. This page describes a psychological theory and it need not imply that it is correct. If that isn't clear from the text of the article, someone (you?) should edit it so that it is more clear. —mako๛ 18:43, 5 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Film Reference

Jean Eustache's 1973 film "La Maman et la putain", an artist's view on the subject under discussion. [[1] —Preceding unsigned comment added by Alex p14 (talk • contribs) 16:49, 4 May 2008 (UTC)