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[edit] Thanks for joining Wikipedia, MacRusgail

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[edit] Barnstar

I, V. Molotov, hereby give you this barnstar for participation in VfDs.

Image:Editors Barnstar.png Molotov (talk) 21:14, 19 September 2005 (UTC)

Thank you. First time I've been decorated. --MacRusgail 15:32, 23 September 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Minor Barnstar

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In recognition of your many good minor edits. Reyk 22:58, 22 October 2005 (UTC)

  • Thanks! --MacRusgail 22:58, 22 October 2005 (UTC)
  • My pleasure. You deserve it. Reyk 23:18, 22 October 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Dwelly project

Category:Dwelly This category is for articles incorporating text from “Dwelly’s [Scottish] Gaelic Dictionary” (1911) by Edward Dwelly, from that dictionary's encyclopedic entries (rather than just definitions). Where possible/suitable, an English translation is used as the title:

[edit] Done (22/03/06)

Aoghairean, Aois-dàna, Brownie (elf) (Uruisg), Canntaireachd, Ciud-siorraig, Clann-an-oistir, Clay-body (Corp-creadha), Còmhla-bhigein, Crann-nan-gad, Crois-iarna (Iron Cross is taken), Crom Dubh (Crum-dubh), Cuirm, Daugh (Dabhach), Druids' glass (Gloine), Druineach, Foot plough (Cas-chrom etc), Force-fire (Tein'-eigin), Half-foot, Lavellan (Labh-allan), liaghra], Long Èireannach, Lèine bhàn, MacGillonie (Sguaban-stothaidh), Matron's badge (Bréid), Muc-sheilch, Ounceland (Unga, Peighinn etc), Oxgang (do.), Pennyland (do.), Religion of the Yellow Stick (Creideamh...), Scottish Gaelic personal naming system (names appendix), Slinneanachd, Sunwise (deiseal), Taghairm, Traditional dyes of the Scottish Highlands (dath), Tulchan (Tulachan), Wonder tuft (Tom-an-ioghnaidh)

[edit] Also incorporating some text from Dwelly

[edit] To do

[edit] Additional

Improve Edward Dwelly's biography.

[edit] Catacol Whitebeams et al

The Special Barnstar
For your many contributions to improving articles about Scottish islands Ben MacDui (Talk) 20:53, 18 June 2007 (UTC)


[edit] Places needing images

Islands: Ascrib Islands, Soay, Isle Ornsay, Barra Isles, Fladda, Treshnish Isles, Stac Biorach, Inchmahome, Rough Island, Scotland, Eilean Liubhaird, Little Bernera, Muckle Green Holm, Rysa Little, Gunna, Kili Holm, Island Macaskin, Uynarey, Hermetray, Islands of Fleet, East Linga, Linga, Samphrey, Linga, Vementry, Gloup Holm, Uyea, Northmavine, Shetland, Brother Isle, Ramna Stacks, Handa, Scotland, North Ronaldsay, Yell (island), Grimsay,


Locations: Keith Inch, Cairn O' Mounth, King Edward, Aberdeenshire,

etc etc

Improved: Whalsay, Eday, Flotta

[edit] Soviet team

I've had a quick look and will take a more in depth look tomorrow. My initial thoughts are that you've made a pretty good start.

I think "national" is justified as the USSR was a independent country even if it was a state nation rather than a nation state. Unlike say the Lions, the African Leopards or Pacific Islanders which have national teams for their constituent members, the individual Republic's teams were not really treated as being "national" although Georgia managed to tour Zimbabwe in their own right.

The table with the ENC results I stole from Italian wiki. It's probably more appropriate to put the position that the Soviets finished each season. Believe it or not Italian wiki has the results for every season played. This is impossible to find anywhere in English.

My other thought is whether this article should be merged with the CIS one. I don't think the team was reconstituted so much as the name was changed and probably the anthem. It might be worth looking at whether other sports e.g. soccer, athletics have one article for the old USSR and one for the CIS or a joint article with the CIS being seen as the continuation of the old USSR team.GordyB 18:34, 3 September 2007 (UTC)

The Communists ought to have played league rather than union because it was a working class sport rather than union which in most places is popular mostly with the middle classes. They liked rugby union rather than league because it was much easier to be competitive against amateur teams, especially when their players weren't really amateur (a lot were in the military or the police and were given special preparation).
Romania were a semi-pro team playing against amateurs. They stopped being any good when Communism collapsed and their players needed to find real jobs and then professionalism was permitted (they never had the money to benefit). The likes of the USSR and Romania would never have been any good at league because they would have had to play against fully professional players.
Of the former USSR republics only Russia plays league to any extent. This is a post-Communist development and comes down to some oligarch or other who likes the sport. Yugoslavia played league before WW2 but Tito had league clubs forcibly converted into union ones.GordyB 21:20, 4 September 2007 (UTC)
On the subject of Georgia, Ukraine etc within the USSR. I would compare those teams to Australian or South African state teams (pre Super 12) or Irish provinces / Scots super-districts (pre Celtic league). They usually only ever played each other and rarely got to play against national teams and were never invited to tournaments for national teams. In the past states sometimes even went on foreign tours.GordyB 22:13, 4 September 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Discussion of serious, yes?

Hello my friend, apology from before discussion, but i would like to ask a serious question for my scottish friend.

As you support historic nation of Cornwall, would you support historic nation of Northumbria for independAnce? thank you. YESYESandmanygoals 10:04, 19 September 2007 (UTC)

No, because Northumbria has not been in continuous existence. Unlike Cornwall. There was no "Northumbria" 2/300 years ago. The current Northumbria is just a region set up by London penpushers. --MacRusgail 15:12, 19 September 2007 (UTC)
Not sure if this is right. Northumberland is just Northumbria with land taken away yes? like Berwick or Poland?
Anyway it is not likely happening as people of these lands are very integrated now i think, Lothian people are Scottish, North-east are confused slightly and yorkshire is yorkshire pudding i think. Thank you for discussion MacRusgail. YESYESandmanygoals 15:41, 19 September 2007 (UTC)
I come from the north east, and am Scottish. (Work that one out). --MacRusgail 15:51, 19 September 2007 (UTC)
It just means you are Russell Anderson, mask is slipping MacRusgail. YESYESandmanygoals 15:53, 19 September 2007 (UTC)
Who? I am from the North East. The real North East. Like Aberdeenshire. :) --MacRusgail 15:54, 19 September 2007 (UTC)
Haha political statement, don't tell the Geordies. saying you are REAL north-east could mean that you advocate the whole island being together, i know that you are not unionist (me too) so it's ok, but you know what i eamn i think, i guess i mean east-midlands then ok. Thank you Rus YESYESandmanygoals 16:02, 19 September 2007 (UTC)

OK sorry for bothering again but i have more questions Rus, i would like to ask of extreme north England, some of it used to be in old Scotland (nothumberland, cumberland, durham etc) - if there was a real movement to join Scotland (ofcourse it would have to be long way in future and be serious) would you support it? the people of this region is quite different to rest of england with culture, accent, dailect etc and has lot of commons with lowlands scot, thanks you Rus --YESYESandmanygoals 18:04, 19 September 2007 (UTC)

Hello again Rus, was wondering about this above question, am serious in asking it - i know right now it is many miles away but i was just interested inn if you would support this idea? and if it was happen would you welcome this people as Scots? thanks YESYESandmanygoals 11:00, 24 September 2007 (UTC)
Has been 10 days, please answer question, am asking serious for research not goading. YESYESandmanygoals 12:10, 29 September 2007 (UTC)
It shows of goading victory for you not to reply Rus YESYESandmanygoals 11:04, 1 October 2007 (UTC)

I'm on holiday!!! To answer your question, other than Berwick upon Tweed, I doubt the rest would want to join Scotland, but if there was a strong demand there, who knows... --MacRusgail 15:46, 1 October 2007 (UTC)

Sorry for disturb mate, did not know of your holiday, enjoy. It is great thought though, yes? I think this people have much Scottishness in personality (even if they maybe not know it), it would also be labbelled "English-Jocks" maybe, they are already called "Southern-Jocks" by many southerners so it is maybe destiny. I think in long future this is something that can happen, there is maybe no 'demand' but i think an underlying 'understanding' by these people. YESYESandmanygoals 15:59, 1 October 2007 (UTC)
Who is this looper? Anyway, i am from this region and i can definately say this wouldn't happen anytime soon, i would agree that we are maybe closer to the Scots than Southern England in most areas, but Scottish? No.
The biggest part of the 'gripe' is probably the verbal 'battering' that the English get from the Scots, obviously as 'English people' we are included in these insult-fests - even though most Scots don't hold us in the same regard as people south of here. It's an odd one, but ultimately you must be smacked off your tits if you think this could happen.
Whenever i've met Scots on holiday or wherever they've always had good banter and cracking humour, i see them very similar to the people of the North-East. Gazh 09:52, 2 October 2007 (UTC)
I am from the North East. And I don't mean Northumbria. :) --MacRusgail 16:17, 9 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Cornwall and the Danes

I removed the paragraph from Constitutional status of Cornwall not for the reasons you suggest (thanks for the knee-jerk assumptions though) but for those that I stated in the edit summary. Basically, it's a wreck. It completely misrepresents the nature of the conquests accomplished by Swein and Cnut, giving an account which would just about fit the Danish conquests of the ninth century but bears no resemblance to those of the eleventh. It implicitly misrepresents the events which followed Swein's death. It misrepresents the political organisation of England before, during and after the period of Danish rule. It includes some complete gibberish where part of a sentence seems to have gone astray, leaving the meaning of the residue mysterious. It provides no references in support of its main point, which it seems to suggest is based not on primary sources or historical analysis of the question but on a map drawn up by some unidentified modern historian, which is inaccurate in other respects. In the absence of any references I can only imagine what (if anything) else the central assertion may be based on.

In addition to this, the only relevant piece of evidence that I am aware of (though there may be others) indicates quite the opposite of what the paragraph asserts. This is a charter issued by Cnut in 1018, confirming one issued in 1016 by Edmund Ironside, which granted lands in Cornwall to Bishop Burhwold of St Germans for his lifetime and thereafter to the monastery at St Germans. The fact that the king had such lands to grant is suggestive; more strikingly, on condition that prayers are said for Cnut's soul, it frees this land of the obligations which would otherwise accompany its ownership, with the exception of those regarding military service. The existence of obligations to Cnut as king, attached to the holding of lands in Cornwall, would indicate that Cornwall was indeed under his direct rule. I have not yet added this piece of evidence to the article because I only know of it from descriptions and have not yet read the actual text or a full translation, and I wish to confirm whether it does indeed say what these descriptions suggest. If it does, it would seem to refute the claims made by this paragraph.

If you wish to retain this paragraph, I suggest that you rewrite it from scratch, and come up with some properly referenced sources to back it up.

You also reversed my revision of the caption to one of the maps on this page. Rather than change the caption I should really have removed the map entirely, but I was feeling conservative. It is irrelevant to the matters in question because, although undated, it seems to portray the situation at some point in the eighth century, after the conquest of Devon by Wessex but before that of Sussex and Essex by Mercia. As such, it relates to a period in which, as far as I know, nobody has ever suggested that there was any sort of English control over any part of Cornwall. It therefore has no bearing on the subject of the article, which hinges on developments in later periods (the same objection can be made to the inclusion of the map portraying the Roman era, and arguably the 802 map as well). The caption itself is a ludicrous statement of the blindingly obvious and completely irrelevant. It declares that the map shows Cornwall, Ireland, Wales and the Isle of Man as separate entities (as indeed they were at that time); oddly, it fails to point that it also shows Wessex, Sussex, Kent, Essex, East Anglia, Mercia and Northumbria as separate entities (as they also were). Therefore it portrays a number of territories which later became part of England and a number which did not; it has no bearing whatsoever on the question of which of these categories Cornwall belongs to!

Incidentally, I am baffled by the apparent belief that modern maps constitute historical evidence. I could draw a map showing twelfth-century Portugal to be part of Japan; it wouldn't make it so. Now, if you could find a map drawn in the eleventh century...

If you can justify the retention of these components of the article, please do so.

Zburh 01:11, 5 October 2007 (UTC)

In the absence of any response, and having checked the text mentioned above, I have reinstated these changes.

Zburh 01:51, 9 October 2007 (UTC)

Please stop reversing my edits and telling me not to remove referenced material when the material in question is not referenced, and innaccurate, irrelevant, nonsensical or strongly POV into the bargain. I have given you an explanation of why I made the changes I did, to which you have made no response. Why are you not prepared to discuss these points rationally? Zburh 15:45, 13 October 2007 (UTC)


[edit] YESYESandmanySockpuppets

Have a look at this. What do you think? Lurker (said · done) 13:38, 10 October 2007 (UTC)

Hardly a sockpuppet, more for light relief, plus i never really used to to make edits or to enforce points, and i never attempted to hide it, Lurker remove your Mod badge and resign, abysmal attempt at mixing it. 194.193.170.84 14:18, 10 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Scottish Islands Project

Hello. Thanks for the suggestion. I have joined up. Rosser 14:26, 13 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] List of freshwater islands in Scotland

Hi! I spotted the images you added after I created the image gallery this morning. I have moved two of the images into the gallery to keep the article format the same. One image I have deleted as an image of a priory is not really relevant to the article, which is basically a list of islands. It would be far better off used on a specific article either on the priory or the island it is on. I think there is a great danger here that the article could get swamped by too many images, having tried to keep the ones I placed there to show the lochs rather than individual islands. I have therefore placed an editors note to this effect and put a link in the section header to the wikimedia commons category on Scottish Lochs. That way a vast array of images can be accessed by the reader whilst keeping the article size relatively small. The only Loch I have been unable to locate an image for is Loch Avich, so if you can find one that could do with adding to the gallery, though with one of the others deleted to keep the page uniform, probably the first of the two on Loch lomond. Richard Harvey 14:16, 16 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Falklands History

Hi, hope you don't mind but I partially reverted one of your edits. I'd been planning to include some details but you beat me to it. Can I suggest that discussions on the construction of the airport belong with the Communication Agreement (1971) and not the hijacking incident. Justin talk 21:48, 20 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Scottish Islands project

Very interesting, I do not know, thank you. I will look at the amendments to french articles.

I import also photographs on Commons from Geograph when I develop an article. You may think to update some articles that were devoid of pictures.

Rémih 17:05, 21 October 2007 (UTC)

For yours Possible candidates for Good or Featured article status, you can translate fr:Stac Lee who is a french good article. Rémih 17:47, 21 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Ulva/Comments

Hi there, you've accidentally published this as a mainspace article when I presume you meant it to go on an article talk page or your own user space somewhere...! Kim Dent-Brown (Talk to me) 15:30, 22 October 2007 (UTC)

It's meant to go here - Talk:Ulva/Comments. I have put a prod notice on it. --MacRusgail 15:32, 22 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Events leading to the Falklands War

Hi MacRusgail, your recent contribution regarding Operation Journeyman [1] is a repetition of the original text. I'll suggest that you merge your new text with the old text.

Old text:
Operation Journeyman, the despatching of a small military force to the South Atlantic by Callaghan's Labour government, may have helped avert further action and subsequent reports from the Joint Intelligence Committee (JIC) in 1977, 1979 and 1981 suggested that "as long as [Argentina] calculated that the British Government were prepared to negotiate seriously on sovereignty, it was unlikely to resort to force." However, if "...negotiations broke down, or if Argentina concluded from them that there was no prospect of real progress towards a negotiated transfer of sovereignty, there would be a high risk of its then resorting to more forceful measures, including direct military action."[1]

Your text:
Operation Journeyman was a Royal Navy operation in which a naval taskforce was sent to the Falkland Islands in November 1977 to prevent an Argentine invasion. The operation was ordered by James Callaghan after fifty Argentine "scientists" landed on Southern Thule prompting fears of an Argentine invasion of the Falklands. The Argentinians set up a military base on Thule. It is likely the prompt action prevented a more serious attack. The force planned under heavy security was led by the nuclear submarine HMS Dreadnought and also consisted of two frigates, Alacrity and Phoebe, and the auxiliaries Resource and Olwen as support vessels. The Argentines rapidly became aware of the taskforce's presence but their forces remained on Thule and Callaghan decided against the use of force to evict them.

Furthermore the 50-men Operation Sol on Thule establishing Corbeta Uruguay is already mentioned earlier on in the text. You can be content with mentioning Operation Sol, then the reader will know what you mean.

A reader will find the present edition rather confusing. Necessary Evil 17:04, 29 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Irish language (and GD)

Siarach, coming out from a few conversations with others, I've created a Gaeilge task force to coordinate translations of Irish place names and other Irish-language related work. Since you seem to have an interest in this stuff, you might want to get involved. Also, do you know of any related Scottish project? Maybe starting one, or linking up, would be possible? In any case, maybe drop a line on the talk page so that we can all "get to know each other" as the man might say. --sony-youthpléigh 15:50, 30 October 2007 (UTC)

There isn't a Scottish equivalent. Gaelic names for some Scottish places are easy to get a hold of, particularly in the Highlands or where the derivation is obvious. In some cases, an ancient name has been used in articles, or an earlier

form e.g. St Andrews - of these I think only "Cill Rimhinn" is current. Even the Lallans name "Sanct Androis" has a medieval ring about it, I'd go for "Sanct Andraes", if "sanct" can be said to be current... The following articles may also be of interest -

--MacRusgail 18:07, 30 October 2007 (UTC) p.s. I think some of the biggest Gaelic related howlers must be in Celtic mythology articles, particularly where Encyclopedia Mythica is concerned - it has bizarre entries for all major world mythologies...

[edit] Thanks for the invitation

Hello MacRusgail,

my activities were caused by the fact that I was writing an article about Knock in County Mayo, Ireland for the german WP. When checking Wikicommons for photos I found some showing different sites but having similar names. So I made a little research on the the internet and wrote another two articles about two different "Knock Castles" in german WP. To gain correct interlinks I had to move articles in the english WP. As I live in southwest germany, close to Hahn airport, (near the village of Sohren, where they have Highland games every two years) it´s a little hard for me to write more about Scotland than what I can find in the internet. Thanks for the invitation anyway. Kallewirsch 21:57, 31 October 2007 (UTC)

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[edit] Maps

Thanks for your kind words about the new Falklands maps. Apcbg 18:44, 7 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Infoboxes

I am trying to convert Template:Infobox_Falkland_island into a working format along the lines of Template:Infobox_Scottish_island, but I am having no joy with it. Can someone help please? I have little experience with infoboxes. --MacRusgail 16:43, 10 November 2007 (UTC)

I recommend a start and request at WP:INFOBOX but WP:Infobox is also very useful. Edmund Patrick ( confer work) 19:27, 10 November 2007 (UTC)
Thank you! --MacRusgail 19:28, 10 November 2007 (UTC)
Your inquiry seems to be resolved so I've removed the helpme tag. Feel free to re add it if you need to. - Rjd0060 19:56, 10 November 2007 (UTC)
Thanks again, both of you... --MacRusgail 19:59, 10 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Erraid

Noted your addition of Arthràigh. I'm intrigued - can you give me the reference for this? Ta. Ben MacDuiTalk/Walk 19:14, 11 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Falkland Islands pictures

I'll try to find a Darwin picture, too. Apcbg 10:41, 13 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Jean Dorey

I wanted to know how it ended! Cheers, Angus McLellan (Talk) 16:34, 18 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Falkland Island Maps

You are of course correct, English does not necessarily equal British but I was actually referring to the English Language. However, I do prefer the version you just added because it reflects the context of the sovereignty dispute not the two languages.

The point I was trying to make was that the Spanish Language names are not necessarily the same as the Argentine names - Puerto Argentino for example is referred to as Puerto Stanley elsewhere (and there are others). Argentina invented many names for features/places that have never had a Spanish name. Thats why I made the distinction.

Anyway the article was improved, which is the main thing. Justin talk 11:25, 19 November 2007 (UTC)

Well, I'd used "Spanish language" rather than Argentine, because I know some of these names have currency in Latin America - although I agree with you about Puerto Argentino (which I gather not all supporters of the Argentine claim like anyway). The new map you put in is far superior to the old one I put in. You're right, a lot of the names are deliberately invented for political purposes. (same could be said about some of the British ones - including Stanley and Falkland), but others seem to be somewhat older. It's a small point, but a subtle one. There are also some English speakers I know of, who insist on using the Argentine names, e.g. some British leftists, Irish republicans etc. --MacRusgail (talk) 11:28, 19 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Bickering

Most of the time when we've edited the same articles I have respected your input as a valued contributor. If I think you've been wrong I've said so but I'm criticising the edit not yourself.

My objections to the addition to the History of the Falkland Islands article largely stem from the quote about Sheeps entrails. A) its trivia and B) its probably Urban Legend.

Telephony may be of historical interest and I did indicate I don't have a problem with that portion of the edit. I probably should have just removed the offending part but sometimes the UNDO button is easier (I know laziness on my part).

Rather than bickering and embarking on an edit war over this, can't we work together to improve the article? Justin talk 13:30, 19 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Please look at my discussion of Scottish Highlands page

Hey, you seem pretty on the ball for this sort of stuff, does my discussion topic on whether the religion section on Scottish Highlands needs some work seem legit to you? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.249.132.254 (talk) 03:50, 22 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Ulva

I have not had as much time this month as I would have liked, but you have done a great job. It should certainly be within a few tweaks of GA. I'd be happy to give it a proper sequential review once you think its in a relatively stable state. Ben MacDuiTalk/Walk 10:44, 24 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] More Mallimakery

You may want to provide a reference when/if you want to prevent your contributions being reverted by Mallimak:

--Mais oui! (talk) 06:54, 30 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Church of Scotland Cathedrals

I've replied on my talk page. Cheers! —Suxamethonium 15:11, 1 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Islands of the Clyde collaboration

Hello. Thanks for the information. Well done on the collaboration. Regards. Rosser 19:40, 4 December 2007 (UTC)

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[edit] Penwith Wikiproject & Cornwall Wikiproject

Hi, I see you are a member of the Cornwall Wikiproject. A proposal has been made to merge the Penwith Wikiproject into it. You can join in the debate here. Best wishes, DuncanHill (talk) 12:23, 5 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Esperanto

Saw your note re Eilean Aigas. You might be interested in the discussion about using audio files instead here. Ben MacDuiTalk/Walk 19:54, 5 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Devon flag

Tapadh leibh for your yellow stick on the Devon Flag page - Cheers me bud Stevebritgimp (talk) 22:23, 19 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Fergus

Please could you add a citation at Fergus (name) for Kerruish being derived from it? - Fayenatic (talk) 17:42, 29 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Novels Collaboration of the Month

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[edit] Disputed fair use rationale for Image:Mebyon kernow.jpeg

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I think I've sorted this, by adding fair-use templates for the two articles which make use of the image. DuncanHill (talk) 19:52, 2 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Recorded form

On recent edits to Papa, Shetland and South Havra your edit summary states "recorded form". I assume this refers to a written form in a primary source. I find it hard to grasp some your subtleties, although agree we should be as accurate as possible. The Orkneyinga Saga reference appears in some of the recent edits (mainly infoboxes). I do not have access to it, so can I ask you to add or remove as necessary. I gather it discusses more than Orkney names. Thanks. Finavon (talk) 20:00, 7 January 2008 (UTC)

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[edit] Happy New Year

Hello and Happy New Year, there's a new (well, new to non-admins) rollback feature that makes it easier to revert vandalism. Would you like me to enable it for you? There's a stupid bureaucratic process you can follow if you like, but since I disagree with it just let me know if you want it turned on, Angus McLellan (Talk) 21:11, 10 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Roy P

I spend so much time putting fact tags on articles it is pleasant surprise to see someone adding a reference without any new material. Can I assume that the good Mr. Pedersen's map provides Norse names for Orkney islands and backs up H-Smith? Ben MacDuiTalk/Walk 17:49, 11 January 2008 (UTC) PS I saw you vacationing in the Scilly Isles recently. I wondered if we should offer them a variant of the Island infobox template.

OK. I imagine you have seen his Gaelic map. As a matter of fact I am acquainted with the gentleman. Ben MacDuiTalk/Walk 18:27, 11 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Centralized TV Episode Discussion

Over the past months, TV episodes have been reverted by (to name a couple) TTN, Eusebeus and others. No centralized discussion has taken place, so I'm asking everyone who has been involved in this issue to voice their opinions here in this centralized spot, be they pro or anti. Discussion is here [3]. --Maniwar (talk) 19:31, 15 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Gaelic help

Hello.

Do you know what "Iar-thuath na Gàidhealtachd" means? I've seen it on a brochure for North West Highland Geopark, an article I'm working on. I'd be grateful if you could tell me what it means exactly. Lurker (said · done) 16:15, 25 January 2008 (UTC)

North-west Highlands. So obvious, eh? Deacon of Pndapetzim (Talk) 16:23, 25 January 2008 (UTC)
Thanks. I was thinking it was a translation of the park's name into Gaelic. Lurker (said · done) 16:27, 25 January 2008 (UTC)
Well, I dunno what "Geopark" would be; you'll have to wait for MacRusgail to come back for that. I'd be guessing that would be something like pàirc-gheòlas, but I dunno. Deacon of Pndapetzim (Talk) 16:47, 25 January 2008 (UTC)
North West Highlands Geopark doesn't have a Gaelic version of "geopark" in its name. Lochaber Geopark, however, is "pàirc-geòdha Loch Abair". I can work out "pairc", but does "geodha" mean "geography"? From placenames, "geodha" seems to mean "narrow sea inlet". But "park of the sea inlet" doesn't mean geopark. Lurker (said · done) 11:47, 2 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Reverts

Why did you revert my edits of Bac Mòr and Bac Beag? I made improvements to the layout, removed incorrect stub messages and used correct section headings. -- Alan Liefting-talk- 18:25, 29 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Query

Hi there. I'm curious about this edit you made. Why is Scotus not considered a surname? Google seems to suggest that it may be a surname. Or is Aaron Scotus really the equivalent of saying "Aaron the Scot"? (ps: I'm American, so forgive me for my ignorance in all things Scottish) BuddingJournalist 06:31, 1 February 2008 (UTC)

Yes, it's the equivalent of saying "Aaron the Scot". It's a nickname, rather than a surname. --MacRusgail (talk) 15:26, 1 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] No need to shout

I was awol last week, and I am catching up on some unfinished business, but I will get up-to-speed on Yell asap of course. Good spot on the dear old Duke btw. Ben MacDuiTalk/Walk 19:07, 1 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] RE: Here, here

I just wish all those people would clear off so's I wouldn't have to think about anything but writing articles. That's the thing I find most annoying ... all that many of those people do is distract real wikipedia content contributors from their work. Vandalism you can just revert ... but scores of tendentious idiots, well meaning simpletons and semi-deranged pov pushers who are protected and encouraged ... that's something which sucks up time ... those guys are bigger wikileeches than the vandals. Anyways, I'll stop there before one of the hundreds of 15 year olds with sysop privileges notices and posts a bunch of WP links on my talk page. Deacon of Pndapetzim (Talk) 21:51, 7 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Skerryvore

Ciamar a tha thu? If you have a mo could you look at this diff [4]? The translations of the small rocks are not as the source says and this may just be speculation. Thanks. Ben MacDuiTalk/Walk 08:33, 8 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Zburh

On a lighter note, I see that your user page bears the words, "You're better off talking to me!". Easier said than done... - Zburh (talk) 22:42, 9 February 2008 (UTC)

We already have talked. It's like listening to a scratched record. --MacRusgail (talk) 22:55, 9 February 2008 (UTC)
No, I have talked. You have ignored me, while continuing to reverse my edits with either misleading explanations or none at all. The only substantive response I can think of to any point I have raised, here or anywhere else, was your explanation on the article's discussion page of why you thought the map of Roman Britain was relevant to the article. When I made a counter-argument to that you went silent. Apart from that, there has been nothing from you.
As for scratched records, the only repetitive element in my remarks has been my requests for you to stop behaving in this way. If at any point you had been willing to enter into a reasonable discussion that would not have been necessary, but I am still waiting for that to happen.
Zburh (talk) 22:50, 10 February 2008 (UTC)

Had a look at the article and I see that, wonder of wonders, some references have begun to appear! Better late than never. The paragraph's general presentation of events is still tripe (multiple English kingdoms etc), but perhaps the main point is salvageable after all, assuming that the works referenced support that main point, with appropriate citation of primary sources. Could we have specific page references to the discussion of the Cornish situation in these books please?

In this new-found spirit of flexibility, might you explain the relevance of Richard of Cornwall?

Zburh (talk) 23:43, 10 February 2008 (UTC)

As one of the most powerful men in the Middle Ages, Richard's status must be of great interest in any constitutional debate. It appears that he had considerable autonomy in Cornwall, as well as substantial lands in England proper.--MacRusgail (talk) 23:52, 10 February 2008 (UTC)
The only element of his status that has any relevance to the constitutional status of Cornwall is his position specifically as Earl of Cornwall. The fact that this particular Earl also happened to hold other, completely unconnected offices as "King of the Romans", Count of Poitou and whatever else has no bearing on that position, any more than the constitutional status of Normandy was transformed by the fact that various medieval Dukes of Normandy also happened to hold a quite separate position as Kings of England (a position which placed them among the most powerful men in Europe), not to mention other offices added later such as Count of Anjou, Duke of Aquitaine etc. Constitutionally speaking, William the Bastard, King of England and an independent sovereign, was an entirely separate person from William the Bastard, Duke of Normandy and a vassal of the King of France. Only the nature of these men's position as Dukes of Normandy is relevant to the constitutional status of Normandy at that time, and the same goes for Richard and the Earldom of Cornwall.
Now, if Richard's constitutional position as Earl of Cornwall was identifiably different from that of any other Earl of Cornwall during this period, that fact would merit inclusion. If you have evidence that it did, you should add a discussion of these differences to the article, in place of the current paragraph. If not, there is no more reason to discuss him as an individual than there is to discuss Reginald de Dunstanville, Piers Gaveston or any of the other Earls who held the office between the Norman Conquest and the introduction of the title of Duke of Cornwall. Either way, irrelevant biographical details about the other lands and offices he happened to hold, let alone the buildings he constructed, have no place in this article.
Zburh (talk) 01:23, 11 February 2008 (UTC)

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[edit] Beinn a' Bhùird

  • Just a 'thanks' for 'correcting Gaidhlig spelling and giving pronounciation' on this article - I've only ever hear it pronounced 'voord' - BUT - my only source on this Watson (1975) gives the other one I added - so I was stuck. Do you use a book or other source? WikiWriter (talk) 12:49, 13 February 2008 (UTC)
  • Thanks for getting back - sorry - I didn't make myself clear, but Watson is saying that he's giving 'local' pronunciation, but I've spent a lot of time around Braemar and never heard any 'local' pronounce it other than as the 'voord' you gave. It could be - though - that he's giving the 'real-local' and 'real-oldie' pronunciation WikiWriter (talk) 17:54, 14 February 2008 (UTC)
  • Thanks for your suggestion - I'll keep it in mind WikiWriter (talk) 19:15, 14 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] -hou

You're right - that article already has a references section, which I somehow completely missed. You have my apologies. I've been tagging many unreferenced articles recently, and I must have just assumed this was one of them without bothering to check properly. Thanks for pointing it out; I'll be more careful in future. Terraxos (talk) 01:30, 14 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Roman in the gloamin'

I've been reading Moffat's Before Scotland and thought you'd appreciate the sentiment expressed on p 228. "The scandalous truth is that our education system has supplied us with a great deal more information about the Romans and Greeks than our own Celtic past. And what is more, older generations can decline amo, amas, amat… but they cannot work out how to pronounce the Gaelic names of half of Scotland's geography. It is nothing less than a national disgrace." Ben MacDuiTalk/Walk 13:32, 26 February 2008 (UTC)

He writes well, but please don't use Moffat as a source on wikipedia! Please! Not at least without double-checking with a decent sources. ;) Deacon of Pndapetzim (Talk) 13:43, 26 February 2008 (UTC)
How unreliable is he then? --MacRusgail (talk) 23:33, 26 February 2008 (UTC)
Pretty. He's frequently listed among academics (informally of course) as one of the many books to avoid. I had that Celtic Kingdoms book or whatever it's called (gave it to charity shop), and oh, it was full of so much nonsense. You'll be able to judge that for yourself if you read that. He's a journalist though I think, so he'll have decent enough research skills to get basic things right. Deacon of Pndapetzim (Talk) 00:32, 27 February 2008 (UTC)
The two books I've heard mocked are the Arthur and the Lost Kingdoms and Sea Kingdoms (the one I gave to charity), which I got an idea of myself. The disagreement ... are we talking about the seal in Archibald the Grim still? There really are quite good reasons why that's regarded as a negative depiction of Galwegians who were indeed frequently called "Wild Men" by Lothian and North English sources. But whenever someone finds a citation to support something you doubt, you can still change "it is" to "is thought by some" without removing the citation. Regards, Deacon of Pndapetzim (Talk) 01:49, 28 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] See also

Talk:Hekla. Ben MacDuiTalk/Walk 21:57, 26 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Whiteness

I apologize for my decision. I reasoned that given the marginal nature of the subject, all the information likely to be entered would fit in the mother article. Best regards. Adoniscik (talk) 17:26, 27 February 2008 (UTC)


[edit] My RfA

Image:David,larry.JPG My RFA
Thank you muchly for your support in my recent request for adminship, which was successfully closed on 76%, finishing at 73 supports, 23 opposes and 1 neutral. The supports were wonderful, and I will keep in mind the points made in the useful opposes and try to suppress the Larry David in me! Now I'm off to issue some cool down blocks, just to get my money's worth!

Kidding btw. All the best, Deacon of Pndapetzim (Talk) 11:27, 5 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] BTW

... you're long overdue a RfA nomination yourself. Tell me you'd accept it and I'll make one. Deacon of Pndapetzim (Talk) 13:36, 5 March 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for that. I don't believe you are that way though, or perceived that way. You've certainly not been any "less restrained" than myself in the last 3-6 months. I'm not totally familiar with everything you'd said around wiki, but all the signs I can find are good. Would you not reconsider? You, believe it or not, are needed in admin land for the same reasons you say I am and Kathryn is. All the best, Deacon of Pndapetzim (Talk) 15:24, 5 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] March 2008

Hello. Please don't forget to provide an edit summary. Thank you. Otolemur crassicaudatus (talk) 16:52, 5 March 2008 (UTC)

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[edit] Edinburgh Rugby Peer Review

Hi there, I was wondering if you could take a look at the Edinburgh Rugby article for peer review when you get the chance. I've decided to try and improve it, I've added some recent history and referencing but I'm fairly new to the whole editing process and was wondering if you could give me some pointers on what the most important issues are to correct. Cheers! PeemJim86 (talk · contribs)

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[edit] Your references on Constitutional status of Cornwall

I finally got round to checking the references which you added to back up that paragraph about Swein and Cnut. It was a bit of a chore, since you had not given page references, but I spent some of my valuable time trawling through the books. I was not impressed by what I found.

Have you ever actually seen these books, let alone read them? I thought a book called "The death of Harald Bluetooth" was on odd reference for this subject. Sure enough, the book makes only the briefest allusions to Swein's activities in England, and I could find no mention of Cornwall at all. As for Trow's book on Cnut, it not only fails to support the assertion made in this paragraph, but explicitly contradicts it, saying that Cnut's England was bordered on the north by Hadrian's Wall (wrong, of course, but that's not the issue here), on the west by Offa's Dike and everywhere else by the sea. The map, which was referenced to the Penguin Historical Atlas of the Vikings, is not from that book (which, incidentally, shows Cornwall as part of England in this period).

While I was checking these, I also looked up your reference to Snyder regarding the elusive Cadoc. Surprise surprise, I can find no reference to Cadoc in the book (which is another odd book for you to be citing in support of your position, since it presents Cornwall as having become part of England at a very early stage).

In short, your "references" are spurious, providing no foundation for the assertions in whose support they are cited. It is hard to credit that they can all be the result of innocent mistakes or misunderstandings. I am aware of the Wikipedia policy on assuming good faith, but I have trouble accounting for this behaviour except in terms of deliberate trickery. Until and unless I am given a convincing alternative explanation, that is the assumption I will be working on.

I will also be removing the material involved, since this fiasco returns matters to the situation before you introduced these references. I imagine that you resorted to this approach because you could not find any reputable source that would support the surreal version of events presented by the article as it stands. Zburh (talk) 16:31, 1 May 2008 (UTC)

This is a very serious accusation. I confess, some of these references were taken from elsewhere on wikipedia. However, I cannot say that you have been particularly intellectually honest on this matter, since you have repeatedly removed material. --MacRusgail (talk) 22:44, 1 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Do not remove or alter sourced info

It's against Wikipedia policy to remove sourced material, so consider this a warning. The common name in English is Persian Gulf, not the Gulf which is a shorter form of Persian Gulf, that's why the Wikipedia page is titled Persian Gulf as well. --07fan (talk) 19:06, 8 May 2008 (UTC)

Stupid or not, the full name in English language is Persian Gulf. National Geographic specifically states "Historically and commonly known as the Persian Gulf", and most publications in the English-speaking world use the term Persian Gulf, even the United Nations has a policy on this[5]. The Gulf is mostly used as a shorter form of Persian Gulf (ie Gulf War), not to dispute the full name Persian Gulf. It's only in UK where some publications use "the Gulf' for that purpose.--07fan (talk) 19:15, 8 May 2008 (UTC)
By removing sources and trying to impose your unreferenced version, you're disregarding several Wikipedia policies such as WP:No original research, and if you revert one more time, you will have also broken WP:3RR. If you continue in such manner, you will be blocked from editing. So please do not removed sourced material or repeatedly revert edits.--07fan (talk) 19:26, 8 May 2008 (UTC)
Yes, and people can read all about this fascinating subject over at Persian Gulf naming dispute. I didn't name the bloody rugby team. Perhaps people use the term the Gulf in order that they don't piss off Arabs or Persians. Please keep it over on the name dispute page. I had to provide a link as people kept on changing the page title to "Persian Gulf rugby team". However, that's not what they call themselves...
No "research" original or otherwise was involved. Just take it over to the relevant page and keep it off the rugby one. I have provided a link.

--MacRusgail (talk) 19:29, 8 May 2008 (UTC)

And you did the right thing to note the controversy in the article, in order keep the page stable because of the controversial name. However, the section is question should be sourced, and reflect realities. So I don't understand your insistence on original research, and removing sources.--07fan (talk) 19:40, 8 May 2008 (UTC)

For the second time, it is not "original research"! I appreciate the name is controversial. Both "Gulf" and "Persian Gulf" are in use - which I mentioned. I really want to keep the controversy off the page - I can understand why people are annoyed by it, but it's a no win situation. --MacRusgail (talk) 21:25, 8 May 2008 (UTC)

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[edit] Edgeøya

This article clearly states that "Edgeøya is an uninhabited Norwegian island". But at last mention "It is seldom visited today". This last sentence needs some more clarification. Seldom visited means what? Who visits and why? Otolemur crassicaudatus (talk) 12:28, 23 May 2008 (UTC)

Also if this island is uninhabited, then there should not be any port etc. Thus the people who occasionally visit the island, how they visit if there is no port or transportation in the island? Otolemur crassicaudatus (talk) 12:31, 23 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Lakes and lochs (sea lochs/freshwater lochs)

I responded to your comment at User_talk:Docu. -- User:Docu

[edit] Proposals for new Australian states

Can you come up with a more credible source than unitedstatesofaustralia.com about Fiji seeking union with Australia? I tried to find something as a reference, but I ended up finding another one about Papua New Guinea instead. There was a party advocating East Timor's integration with Australia in 1974, and there are references for that, but nothing about Fiji. Quiensabe (talk) 23:39, 25 May 2008 (UTC)

The proposals about Fiji were many a year ago - 19th century in fact.--MacRusgail (talk) 17:15, 27 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Falklands Placenames

That revert was completely unnecessary, I provided a citation and gave a fair chance for someone to come up with the same for the converse. Please don't do it again. Justin talk 19:08, 27 May 2008 (UTC)

I don't understand why you made the change. It's fairly obvious that supporters of the Argentine claim do not use "Port Stanley" or the name "Falklands". They don't like these names, and consider them alien impositions on claimed Argentine territory.--MacRusgail (talk) 19:10, 27 May 2008 (UTC)
Because if you look on the history page of Falkland Islands you might find that when I first started on Wikipedia I had an admin and the Red Hat gang up on me in an edit war, then I was the only one to get a block. Justin talk 19:14, 27 May 2008 (UTC)
That was probably a bit unfair on you, but I think you are wrong in this case. --MacRusgail (talk) 19:24, 27 May 2008 (UTC)
I found that there are sources that will support that the names associated with the Argentine occupation are considered offensive, they're by and large only used in Argentina. However, I can't find a single citation to support the converse and believe me I have tried. Justin talk 19:29, 27 May 2008 (UTC)
It's difficult to find direct evidence, but certainly, many of the English names are not used by Argentines (except perhaps for smaller features)--MacRusgail (talk) 19:36, 27 May 2008 (UTC)

UNINDENT

You might find it surprising but the use of English/Spanish placenames is not as simple as you suggest. Many veterans of the conflict refer to Stanley rather than Puerto Argentino. I can't find evidence the use of English names is considered offensive in the same way the "made up" names associated with the Argentine invasion are considered in the islands. Justin talk 20:00, 27 May 2008 (UTC)

I appreciate that, but not all veterans actually agree with the claim. That's the problem. Some of them came to disagree with it, thanks to the conflict itself. Others were probably lukewarm before they got drafted. --MacRusgail (talk) 20:04, 27 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] -hou

Just in case you're interested in this one...(improvement welcome!) --Sionnach 18:03, 31 May 2008 (UTC)

Probably should mention Norman language more, plus also the fact that the suffix -holm can be found in some Hebridean names, e.g. Lingeam.--MacRusgail (talk) 13:19, 1 June 2008 (UTC)
Lingeam? The only one I could find was "Linga Holm", which would be in Orkney and not in the Hebrides. Do you know of any other Hebridean place names with the suffix –holm? It would be an interesting fact I would like to add.--Sionnach 06:12, 3 June 2008 (UTC)
A lot of the names have been Gaelicised. Lingeam is the name of several very small Hebridean islands - I think they may be mentioned at Linga (disambiguation) --MacRusgail (talk) 15:13, 4 June 2008 (UTC)

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[edit] Jura

Hi. I'm not sure why you reverted my edits to the Jura article. Could you explain why you feel the title 'Literature and Film' is still appropriate, now that you have added the useful sentence about Gaelic poetry and song? And I do think the beginning of the para about Orwell reads oddly, with that unattributed quotation about 'the theses at the heart of his novel'. Perhaps you could give its source - that might help it make sense. Dhmellor (talk) 09:19, 8 June 2008 (UTC)

You've got the wrong end of the stick. I had no problem with the retitling (Poetry and song are still literature though...), but the fact that you had removed a sentence from the George Orwell bit which was referenced.--MacRusgail (talk) 13:17, 8 June 2008 (UTC)

In that case, could I suggest that you list Gordon Bowker's book fully in the bibliography. Also, the quotation should be referenced within the text, as outlined in Wikipedia: Style Guide. But it still seems over the top to use a quotation simply to point out that Orwell had actually conceived 1984 long before he wrote it on Jura. Dhmellor (talk) 10:20, 9 June 2008 (UTC)

[edit] List of places in Highlands

I can see why you put the link redirect in, as the naming of the article is incorrect, should be called List of places in Highland. Why didn't you drop the me a message though, as it could be clearly seen that i'm the sole editor on this list so far, and all it does peev me off when somebody comes flying in, without consulting other parties. I do plan to get the article name changed to the real name once the list is complete. scope_creep (talk) 11:09, 9 June 2008 (UTC)

Believe me, the fact that Highland Region has a sign in the middle of Drummochter Pass (half way up the Highlands) saying "Welcome to the Highlands" pisses me off. Not only are huge parts of the Highlands not in Highland region, but some Lowland places such as Caithness are in it... Good work, but please don't conflate the two.--MacRusgail (talk) 11:11, 9 June 2008 (UTC)
Me as well... The way I was building the Highland list, and all other list, was only those places inside the border of the council area. Each council has a map of wards, and a boundary map, which shows area covered, which I was using. You can tell by a quick glance at multimap/google and the council border map is a village/etc is in an area. Anyway quick question. I notice some folk building list of places that were putting the wards, constituents in as well. Is that normal practice? scope_creep (talk) 22:59, 9 June 2008 (UTC)