Talk:Macroglossum stellatarum

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[edit] Sightings

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[edit] Photos

I have two photos of what I presume are a hummingbird hawk-moth at http://saqataq.us/pics/20050729/4.html and http://saqataq.us/pics/20050729/5.html .. Would either of these be useful for the article? Note that the originals are 8MP images and so can be cropped quite a bit while retaining quality that's good enough for viewing via the web. Radsaq 23:09, 25 August 2005 (UTC)


Have been watching these little creatures in Kansas, US, for about the last three weeks. Not afraid of people. Mine have more color to them than the pictures though. The antene are bright yellow with red, yellow, and black wings and a striped colored back but other than the color they look just like the pictures.

[edit] Major editing needed

There are so many things wrong with this article I don't know where to start. I don't know what to DO! I WAS going to edit it but figured I'd post here first and then if nobody replied in a couple of days I'd edit it myself.... first, the term hummingbird moth doesn't just refer to one species, as there are many (Hemaris thysbe, Hemaris gracilis, Hemaris diffinis, Hemaris senta, etc). Secondly, I don't think that particular species (Macroglossum stellatarum) is even considered a hummingbird moth. Thirdly, the pictures don't match with the description, and are in fact another species (the second one anyway). This is what the real Macroglossum stellatarum lokos like: [[http://www.ybis.at/natur/tiere/schmbild/Pa180548.jpg . I didn't even check to see if the general facts were right... but there's definately some editing needed here! --TheAlphaWolf 22:37, 5 November 2005 (UTC) well, I decided to delete the second picture now :P --TheAlphaWolf 22:40, 5 November 2005 (UTC)

Hi! I agree there are problems with this article, mainly caused by good old transatlantic confusion I think! Macroglossum stellatarum is the Hummingbird Hawk-moth to we Brits and I'm fairly sure the remaining pic does depict this species. We call Hemaris spp "Bee Hawk-moths". It's all a bit of a tangle which is probably why I have avoided trying to sort it out. I think more than one article is required but what they are going to be called I have no idea. Any thoughts? Richard Barlow 15:32, 7 November 2005 (UTC)

aha! so that's why. Well, I was thinking maybe there should be a disambiguation page where hummingbird moth, hummingbird hawk-moth, bee hawk-moth etc. lead and then each one with its own article. That way if you search for any of those, you realize why they invented scientific names :-P --TheAlphaWolf 00:43, 8 November 2005 (UTC)

Sounds like a good idea. I'm going to be pretty busy over the next couple of weeks but I'll try to sort something when I can. If you want to give it a go, be my guest :) Richard Barlow 10:02, 8 November 2005 (UTC)
  • Instead of dismbiguation, let's refer to them by their scientific names. End of confusion. Satyrium 18:29, 2 September 2006 (UTC)

I think this transatlantic confusion brings up another good point, this article hast a strong European Bias, and has no mention of Hummingbird Moths in North or South America. Aufs klo 15:22, 9 September 2006 (UTC)

  • Well, here we are nearly a year later, and the article still lacks any reference to these critters existing in the Americas. 72.228.82.154 12:48, 6 August 2007 (UTC)
  • I've changed the range, since it's not listed here and there is no other ref. Jimfbleak 06:25, 7 August 2007 (UTC)
    • US was added to the range, but still unsourced, so reverted again. Jimfbleak 14:57, 8 August 2007 (UTC)
    • Apparently (a quick google says... bottom of this page) there was one record of the species in the Aleutian Islands from sometime between the '30s and '50s. Essentially the species' distribution does not include North America, so the hummingbird moths that people keep claiming should be in this article are actually other species, not M. stellatarum. As far as a drastic re-write goes, this article is the next on my list for a translation from the German, which is featured. I still have about a third of the Onychophora article left to do first, so it might be a little while coming, but I'm working on it. --YFB ¿ 23:46, 8 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] TMBG

bee bird moth —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.59.210.63 (talk) 04:50, 15 November 2007 (UTC)