Talk:Macon, Georgia

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there're probably better news sources to link to rather than "WMCC News" - someone's blog "Scouring the News for the Ridiculous and Upsetting in Macon, Georgia"


Is Macon really a major hub of inland trade of shipping? The Ocmulgee River is too shallow, narrow, and has too much sediment-buildup for such activities, and there are no shipping ports that i know of, nor have i seen any ships. --Matrixboy84 14:54, 31 July 2006 (UTC)

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[edit] Modern History

Has Macon had any? Could someone add it?

What about old history. Where is the mention of the city name derived from the French city? Migdejong 01:08, 19 December 2006 (UTC)
Actually, the name of the city comes from Senator Nathaniel Macon, as the article explains. Several other cities and counties in the US are also named for Macon, who was quite a big deal in the early republic. The name of the French city Mâcon is coincidence. Hope this helps! --SuperNova |T|C| 08:27, 19 December 2006 (UTC)


[edit] Demographics

We can upgrade this article by inserting references/citations for new info. This may be particularly important for phrases using the words "black" or "white" which may be potentially inflammatory. I don't doubt the truth of the phrase regarding migration, but we need solid evidence, outside our own observations, to support this.Student7 18:25, 9 January 2007 (UTC)

I removed all that. It was poorly written, and just not really accurate. I appreciate your effort in asking for a citation, but it sounded to me like someone wanted to make a "Here's how I see it..." post using Wikipedia, so I wouldn't hold my breath on a reference. I'm sure one could find reliable sources to attest to some form of white flight, but until said source is produced -- as part of an encyclopedia-style piece of writing -- that block of text should just stay out. --SuperNova |T|C| 09:08, 10 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Surrounding Cities and Towns

We currently have articles on various cities and towns. Also on counties. If this new list is either for "metropolitan area" or "cities abutting Macon", I don't understand it's purpose. Let those cities/towns describe themselves. I agree that usually MSP articles start taking credit for outlying suburbs, but maybe then, the section should be renamed. Student7 02:24, 23 March 2007 (UTC)

All metropolitan articles have the same deficiency - hard to tell where the city leaves off and where the MSP begins. With the listing of "Fort Valley CC" as a Macon college, it kind of drives that home. Shouldn't the distinction be made more clear, either through sectioning or maybe a separate article? Student7 19:28, 24 April 2007 (UTC)


[edit] RE: Worst City in 2006

In the Google Earth snapshot of Macon it is mentioned that the city was voted the "Worst City in 2006." I could not find any detailed information on what list this came from. Can you please supply that information?

Thanks! —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Luvbasbal (talk • contribs) 16:20, 26 March 2007 (UTC).

Wow! Talk about asking a key question! I just entered a stub on economy. The study was a real one, not a blog or anything. That really surprised me. Also a potential resource for those of us working on other cities. Thanks for the question! Student7 21:01, 26 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] External links

I've removed the 'cleanup spam' tag and added a message to editors in the external links section regarding adding links to it. The only links that should be in the external links section of the city article are only those that relate directly to the city itself (e.g. city government, chamber of commerce, convention & visitors' bureau, etc). Links to schools, businesses, real estate offices, and other entities within the city are not appropriate for that section. Instead, consider adding a link to that to a wikipedia article about the school or business, if it is notable, then add content to the article itself and link to the article. But keep in mind that articles on schools and businesses must meet certain standards of notability. If the only reason you're adding the link is to promote your website, this violates Wikipedia's External Link Policy. Dr. Cash 22:07, 10 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Does Macon have a flag?

Does Macon have a flag? If so, could someone put it on here? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Soglad2005 (talkcontribs) 02:24, 21 April 2007 (UTC).

Yes, it is red with a blue diagonal bar and I think a shield or something. I cannot find it online, unfortunately, but when I am in town later this week, I'll see if I can find a version or make one. Good idea! --SuperNova |T|C| 05:36, 9 May 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Sports

Neither the Knights nor the Whoopee are active anymore; the Whoopee folded years ago and were replaced by the Trax, which have also folded, so that section should be cleaned up. Does Macon have any minor-league basketball? (GLG, 5/8/07)

One site claims Macon will add a team this year. [1] Student7 19:04, 8 May 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Gwizzlies???

What in the hell are the Gwizzlies? No one is gonna take this city seriously when we have a basketball team name sounding like its being pronounced by a 5 y/o. We should petition. At least let it be "The Grizzlies". —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Soglad2005 (talkcontribs) 02:58, 12 May 2007 (UTC).


[edit] Airport

"Middle Georgia Regional Airport provides air service between Macon and many national and international destinations." ??? Only in Mayor Ellis's most delusional dreams. The only air service to MCN is from ATL on ASA. Bravenav 06:54, 19 May 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Notable people

I think we need a standard for who qualifies for inclusion as "famous/notable people from Macon". In other articles with similar sections, a rule of thumb that I've used in the past is that only people notable enough to have a Wikipedia article should be listed under notable people. Thoughts? --SuperNova |T|C| 20:15, 16 June 2007 (UTC)

I like your idea, particularly when extended to the metro area. The problem I find is getting a standard for all that is trustworthy.
I've been trying to edit a tiny state. Everybody who ever played pro ball is in there even if they only played for a year. Should that be the case? I guess if they have an article they ought to be prominent someplace! For a state, they could always be bumped down to a region, county or town. In Macon, it could be at the the school level but otherwise there's no place for them to go.
Also, editors have dumped articles into Wikipedia from 19th century compendiums (maybe paid!) of local bios. The bios read well, the people seem nice enough, but they never really DID anything noteworthy - they were a physician or schoolteacher or somesuch and did their job. So even having an article may not be a sufficient criterion. So discussing it is a great idea! Student7 21:32, 16 June 2007 (UTC)
More thoughts: The people need to be either recognizable outside of Macon or, after reading about them, we can appreciate why they are on the list. IMO the following people shouldn't make it: Mayors (every city has one, Macon has had dozens), Councilmen, representatives to the state assembly from Macon only (not unique), techically county commisioners could but kind of ridiculous at the metro level. People with local impact only excluded: local clergymen, local doctors, local teachers, they have to have had some impact outside Macon, not inside. It's relatively easy to come up with a standard for politicians, but harder for other people.Student7 22:15, 16 June 2007 (UTC)
You are in the middle of moving notable people, a great idea! Suggest moving the section name to the bottom of the article - supposed to be about the city not about people. Keeping Lanier and maybe the CNO and a few really super prominent people that no one can argue with.
The new list will be ignored after awhile unfortunately, but at least it won't clutter up the Macon article any longer.Student7 14:33, 17 June 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Purple-ish

I recently heard "The Color Purple" movie was shot in Macon. I was wondering if this was true and if so it really needs to be put on the page.

[edit] Great pics, keep 'em comin'.

Great pics, keep 'em comin'.

[edit] Neighborhoods and Downtown.

I think we should list and make articles about the different neighborhoods in Macon and surrounding area. I also think we should make an article about downtown, list the notable buildings (or what little there is). There are great pictures of the buildings in downtown Macon at www.emporis.com.

[edit] The Macon Seal or Symbol...

Does Macon have one and if so can someone find it and put it on here? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Soglad2005 (talkcontribs) 11:37, 1 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Two Airports

Doesn't Macon have two airports? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Macondude (talkcontribs) 15:49, 6 October 2007 (UTC)

Yes, Macon has two airports. One is for commercial aircraft (Middle Ga. Regional) on the other is for private aircraft (Herbert Smart). Dawg1279 (talk) 06:39, 14 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Metropolitan area

Doesn't Macon actually have a metro area smaller than the one presented? You can see it for yourself that Metro Macon's population is only about 230,000 at Table of United States Metropolitan Statistical Areas. Maybe you can make a distinction between this one and the CSA that you have in the article. naw, thats wrong. its about 400,000...surprisingly. lol —Preceding unsigned comment added by Macondude (talkcontribs) 19:15, 3 November 2007 (UTC)

The analysis of population says that Macon is the "sixth," "fifth" and "third" largest, but only gives two cities that are larger. The sentences are confusing. I agree with mentioning only two cities. But maybe the other claims should be restructured in some way. I wasn't really sure what the paragraph was getting at or I would have tried to rewrite them myself! I'm pretty sure now that all the sentences meant "in Georgia," but mentioning only two cities larger gives the reader pause. Student7 (talk) 10:59, 3 April 2008 (UTC)

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[edit] Attractions

We need to get rid (disperse) this section. It is not part of WikiProject Cities/Guideline for good reason. It attracts spam-like items. Need to put under economy/industry where appropriate or cultural/museums or maybe just get rid of it. Student7 (talk) 16:43, 21 February 2008 (UTC)