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Traditional Chinese, Simplified Chinese and Pinyin are necessary for Chinese names

The usual practice of Wikipedia for including Traditional and Simplified Chinese and Pinyin is a proper way, because it has considered different users. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 91.104.18.220 (talk • contribs)

Simplified Chinese and Pinyin are NOT commonly and offically used in Macau SAR. You can see clearly that the Chinese language in the emblem of Macau (e.g. Image:COA of Macao.svg)is written in the traditional form of Chinese, so obviously it is nothing wrong indeed to exclude the simplified form. 74.12.181.126 23:30, 6 July 2007 (UTC)
Anyway, the information of Hanzi and Pinyin are necessary for Chinese names. It is the usual practice of Wikipedia, even the articles of "China" and "Taiwan" also included Traditional Chinese, Simplified Chinese and Pinyin.
the information of Hanzi and Pinyin are not necessary for Chinese names and I actually didn't see that this is the usual practise of Wikipedia. You can go to the topic of Names of Macau and write down the necessary information that includes both forms of writing. 74.12.181.126 13:14, 7 July 2007 (UTC)

Intro paragraph is unreadable

The intro paragraph is unreadable. I've asked a bunch of people, from grade school kids to adults, to read this paragraph, and only two of them were able to repeat the main content. All the other languages (four of them!), and links to audio, is important, but it is way too crowded. This is broken. I'm open to suggestions on how to fix this. SchmuckyTheCat

Why? It reads "Macau, officially the Macao Special Administrative Region of the People's Republic of China, is one of the two special administrative regions (SARs) of the People's Republic of China (PRC)."
Compare "Germany, officially the Federal Republic of Germany, is a country in west-central Europe." Iianq 17:41, 30 June 2007 (UTC)

Not quite. It says that, but every noun has the cantonese/traditional putonghau/simplified, and portugese translations and possibly a voice dub. Everything in parentheses needs to go somewhere else. SchmuckyTheCat

Compare with France, Germany, Portugal, Spain, or perhaps Switzerland too. Iianq 17:58, 30 June 2007 (UTC)

PRC and Macau after the Portuguese MFA coup

Can anyone point to a good source explaining the PRC's reasoning behind allowing the Portugese to continue to administer Macau after the MFA coup in Portugal? Was it, for instance, to avoid undue pressure on Britain (when most of Hong Kong would, after all, revert to China anyway)?

MOS problems

There are some MOS problems with the article. Particularly with the formats of the references. It would be better if they used the cite templates. Also, there are various bolding problems. Please read WP:MOSBOLD to see what ought to be bolded and what should not be bolded. Hong Qi Gong (Talk - Contribs) 04:50, 24 May 2007 (UTC)

Episcopal see

According to my reading of a poor reproduction scan of Macau, Illustrations of China and Its People, John Thomson (London,1873-1874), Macao was made into a see by pope Gregory III in 1580. However, it appears that unless there are other Gregory IIIs, the pope in question ought to have been Gregory XIII. Would anyone have any further info in this regard? Ohconfucius 04:09, 30 May 2007 (UTC)

GA review

I'm going to put this article on hold until the following have been address:

Name
  • "The gale miraculously ceased" - POV, try and find Y ref. added about Matsu + rm "miraculously".
Legislative body
  • Note 17 should be after a punctuatio mark, per WP:FOOT Y Done
Folk religion
  • In the middle paragraph, why is "and" enbolded? Y Done
Events & Festivals
  • This is just a personal preference, but surely it should be "and" instead of "&". Also, "Festival" should be with a lower case "F" as per WP:MoS. Y Done
  • "the biggest tournament of the year in Macau is the Macau Formula 3 Grand Prix in November". Again, a preference of WP:MOTOR and myself is that Formula Three are spelt as the world, not the number - It just looks better IMO. Also, on thing you could do is make a comparison of the F3 circuit with another street circuit, there are many you could use but the Circuit de Monaco would be a good choice, IMO. Y Done
  • At the moment, I'm a little "dry" on suggestions sorry. But one thing I could suggest is looking at other FA articles as examples, such as Australia.
Plans for the Future
  • This isn't really a section in the article, just a few things you could do if you wish to improve the article to FA.:
    • In the Politics section, why are there two links to the Politics of Macau article via the {{Mainarticle}} template? Y Done (i.e. repetitive links removed)
    • Keeping with the Politics section, I strongly suggest that the "Introduction" header gets taken away as the first paragraph to any new section should be an introduction IMO. Y Done

Anyway, apart from the "Plans for the Future" section, please can you see the concerns I've addressed and I'd be happy to pass this article as a Good Article. --Phill talk Edits Review this GA review! 09:55, 31 May 2007 (UTC)

Seeing as you addressed all my concerns, I will now pass this article. Good luck with improving the article to FA status! Remember to rate my GA review, see my signature - Thank you. --Phill talk Edits Review this GA review! 09:33, 4 June 2007 (UTC)


There are also some things that should not be bolded. Per WP:MOSBOLD, only table headers, definition lists, and volume numbers in some formats for bibliographic entries for journal articles should be bolded. Here are the texts that need to be unbolded:

  1. Sino-Portuguese Joint Declaration on the Question of Macau Y Done
  2. one country, two systems Y Done
  3. Civic and Municipal Affairs Bureau Y Done
  4. Secretariat for Administration and Justice Y Done
  5. City of Dreams Y Done

Also in the References section, there are several references that read "refer to such and such". I don't know if this conforms to WP:MOS. Hong Qi Gong (Talk - Contribs) 15:14, 31 May 2007 (UTC)


A few more comments for the GA review. Even though Macau is not a country, I suggest comparing this article to FA country articles like Australia, Japan, and Cameroon to see what needs to be improved. I've only done a high level review, but several things are apparent to me:

  • The lead does not provide a adequate overview of the article as required by WP:LEAD Y Done
  • The article has far too many subsection headers, resulting in the table of contents being overwhelming long.Y Done
  • The International rankings and Miscellaneous topics sections should be removed and any notable information merged into the other sections of the article. Partly done
  • Religion details probably belong in Demographics rather than Culture as per country articles.Y Done
  • The Culture section contains nothing about cuisine, sport, film, tv, radio, music, etc. Y Done
  • The Transportation section provides far too much detail. Y Done
  • The Legal system and judiciary section contains too much detail and should probably be merged into Government and politics.

(Caniago 13:11, 31 May 2007 (UTC))

It will surely re-arrange and improve them very soonest for upgrading from GA to FA standard .70.54.9.155 16:22, 31 May 2007 (UTC)
Some of these issues may not stop the article being awarded GA status, but things like the inadequate lead and the missing details regarding culture in my opinion need to be fixed before it is promoted. (Caniago 10:23, 1 June 2007 (UTC))Y Done
it takes time to sit down and figure out how to do it. For the part of culture, mostly you can find out from the topic of Culture of Macau. 70.54.9.155 14:59, 1 June 2007 (UTC)

GA Pass

This article has been reviewed as part of Wikipedia:WikiProject Good articles/Project quality task force. I believe the article currently meets the criteria and should remain listed as a Good article. The article history has been updated to reflect this review. Regards, Epbr123 14:39, 16 September 2007 (UTC)

Hospitals in Macau

I have tried to add a link to the Wikipedia page "List of Hospitals in Macau". For some reason it seems not to be coming up !

Professorial —Preceding unsigned comment added by Professorial (talk • contribs) 19:50, 14 October 2007 (UTC)