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[edit] English dialect

Why was this article changed from American English to Queen's English? Macao doesn't have an official form of English, but street and academic English is usually American unless dealing with HKers. SchmuckyTheCat

It doesn't matter indeed. You may change any word from British English to American English, but please make sure that the spelling of English words consistent with either American or British spelling, depending upon the subject of the article. Examples include: flavour (B) (American: flavor), honour (B) (American: honor), harbour (B) (American: harbor), neighbor (A) (British: neighbour), meter (A) (British: metre), metre (B) (American: meter), defense (A) (British: defence), defence (B) (American: defense), recognize (A) (British: recognise), ization (A) (British: isation), isation (B) (American: ization), programme (B) (American: program ). Coloane 08:57, 13 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Minor edits

I made some minor edits in order to remove elements of anti-west propaganda which are typical of every single-party, authoritarian, formerly-communist central governements, but are not appreciated in truly encyclopedic articles. ("Occupied by", "obtained by bribing" are not neither accurate nor neutral descriptions of the historical events related with the Portuguese) Pularoid (talk) 13:28, 9 January 2008 (UTC)

Your comments are appreciated. But it escapes me as of why "occupied by" and "obtained by bribing" are not accurate nor neutral. For me "occupied by" and "administered" is just a matter of taste. But I have two independent sources that support the "bribing" fact. One is the book by Fung published by Joint Publishing (H.K.) Co., Ltd (an independent H.K. publisher). The other is the Macau Encyclopedia published by the Macau Foundation (in October 1999 under the Portuguese administration). It might not be the truth, but it's certainly verifiable. Josuechan (talk) 13:47, 9 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Dress Appearances

As I was just wondering, Did The Brutal Queue order had any effect on Mancau Han Chinese at the time when the Qing emperors came into power in 1644, many years after the Portuguese control of Mancau itself? I'm just curoius or wondoring myself, since I got to shortly before got to notice that, compare to Hong Kong. But otherwise, what effect did the Portuguese had on Han Chinese Hairdos and Clothing in Macau? And also, they don't menthion about this on the Mancau article and history of mancau article and such. So please answer me if you please.-Jana —Preceding unsigned comment added by 65.68.73.116 (talk) 22:21, 23 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] percentage of Lusophones

How many people speak portuguese, not "at home" but are able to communicate in portuguese fluenty and or effectively? Are there lusophone radio and tv stations? Arthurian Legend (talk) 02:16, 25 January 2008 (UTC)

According to the 2006 by-census, 2.4% of the population could speak Portuguese. Currently there is one only TV station that broadcasts in Portuguese. Josuechan (talk) 06:48, 25 January 2008 (UTC)

From my experience only Portuguese and Macanese can speak Portuguese language in Macau. The local chinese don't even know the streetnames in Portuguese language. Quite unusual. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 60.50.22.194 (talk) 07:38, 25 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Awkward third paragraph placement

It seems that the third paragraph would be a much better fit in either the Politics or Economy section, rather than in the initial section. Can someone check this and change it if you agree, and if I am mistaken, please explain why it belongs where it is so that I can better understand. Thank you, Baadcatj (talk) 06:26, 7 March 2008 (UTC)

I moved it. SchmuckyTheCat (talk)

[edit] Did the China-Macau border move?

Wondering if anyone can tell me if this border today at a different location from the one prior to handover in 1999 ie. it has moved a couple of metres north of the Portas do Cerco? Looking at old photos, the border seemed to have been exactly at the Portas do Cerco but today, the Macau immigration building is on the other side of the gate in what looked like Chinese territory prior to 1999. Am I correct? Slleong (talk) 17:16, 29 March 2008 (UTC)

Most borders have functional buildings that may be on one or both sides or even straddling the "line". In Macau, since the "border" is domestic it isn't considered important where specific buildings are. PRC laws apply on both sides and they'll just deal with any troubled situation without regard to which "side" has specific jurisdiction. The placement of border control buildings does not reflect where the line in the dirt actually is.SchmuckyTheCat (talk)
Point taken and I certainly realise this. My question is what you would call academic. I am keen to know where the line in the dirt actually is, whether the original pre-1999 border was at the Portas do Cerco or beyond where the new frontier checkpoint buildings is now. The People's Daily internet edition story on Monday, December 20, 1999, entitled "China: New Map Delineates Macao SAR Boundary Line" made me even more confused: "The northern boundary line of the Macao SAR connects with Gongbei Road of Zhuhai City in Guangdong Province. The area to the south of the arched door of Guanzha belongs to the Macao SAR, while the area to the north of the arched door of Guanzha up to the old flag building at the Zhuhai frontier checkpoint will remain the same as before." What does "remain the same as before" mean? Anyway, the borders between the mainland and its two special administrative regions are virtually international boundaries - passport checks, security controls, Chinese citizens do not have free movement across the border etc. Slleong (talk) 05:58, 8 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Macão

Hasn't it also been spelled Macão? 76.126.29.36 (talk) 19:41, 5 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Merger proposal

Can I suggest that we merge the article Historic Centre of Macau into this page? At the moment that article contains very little material and it seems to me that any attempt to expand it would just be reiterating the material in this article. The merger could be done along the lines of the article for Prague which is another major city with a UNESCO listed historic centre. I honestly see know reason for Historic Centre of Macau to exist as a separate article to Macau. Mutt (talk) 05:26, 21 April 2008 (UTC)

Oppose this. There's too much topic-specific content in the Historic Centre of Macau to merge into this already long article. --Oakshade (talk) 03:33, 12 May 2008 (UTC)
No way, this is a bad idea. Historic Centre should be expanded. SchmuckyTheCat (talk)

[edit] Macau and other parts of southern China in the Dutch Empire

Hello everyone! There is a discussion at Talk:Dutch Empire#Request For Comment: Map, because user Red4tribe has made a map of the Dutch Empire (Image:Dutch Empire 4.png) that includes Macau and other parts of southern China. Would you like to comment? Thank you. The Ogre (talk) 15:21, 26 April 2008 (UTC)


New Map(does not include macau) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Dutch_Empire_new.PNG http://www.colonialvoyage.com/ square=tradingpost (Red4tribe (talk) 16:40, 26 April 2008 (UTC))

Still OR, POV and unsourced (yours is not not a credible source). Please discuss stuff at Talk:Dutch Empire#Request For Comment: Map. This was just a request for comment, not a discussion. Thank you. The Ogre (talk) 16:43, 26 April 2008 (UTC)

http://www.colonialvoyage.com/
http://www.colonialvoyage.com/biblioDAfrica.html (credible source) (Red4tribe (talk) 16:51, 26 April 2008 (UTC))

[edit] WWII in Macao

This is quite an interesting period in Macao and maybe you could write about it. I don't have the sources, but I am aware of the fact that Portugal remained neutral during the WWII and so its colonies. Japan has respected it to a certain degree. There were few bombing raids on Macao though. Also, there was a huge influx of chinese from mainland to seek refuge in Macao. Food shortages and overpopulation led to many people starving (50-100 each day!). —Preceding unsigned comment added by 60.50.22.194 (talk) 07:47, 25 May 2008 (UTC)