Talk:Macaca
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Why does this page redirect to "Macaque" without mention of the racial slur ("Macaca") that was uttered in the 2006 congressional campaign by George Allen (R-VA) to a dark-skinned man who was videotaping him, which many say cost him the election? scotts 00:13, 10 November 2006 (UTC)
- I agree, and I'm going to change the redirect to Macaca (slur). Yes I know it's the name of a primate genus, but I guarantee you nobody typing "Macaca" into the Wikipedia search engine is looking for information about the Macaque monkey. Use common sense and try to imagine what the most frequently requested usage should be.--The Fat Man Who Never Came Back 14:35, 5 January 2007 (UTC)
- That was inappropriate. Just because *you* think that no one would be looking for the monkey, doesn't make it so. Five years from now, no one will remember the slur, but the monkey will still be around. I've reverted. If you want to make a change, make this a disambiguation page. - UtherSRG (talk) 14:45, 5 January 2007 (UTC)
- This is not my opinion but an easily inferred fact. UtherUSG, the fact that Macaca article did not inappropriately redirect to the macaque article until after the George Allen scandal is not a coincidence. No one cared about the word, no one began searching for it until after the incident. Do not attempt to argue that the vast majority of those searching for the word are not looking for information about George Allen and the slur. If you are as savvy with a crystal ball as you claim to be, come back in 5 years and then redirect the page.--The Fat Man Who Never Came Back 14:52, 5 January 2007 (UTC)
- Regardless, it was inappropriate to make it a 180 degree redirect. If you are going to change it, make it a disambiguation page. Otherwise, leave it as it is. - UtherSRG (talk) 15:00, 5 January 2007 (UTC)
- For now, I've created the dab page and fixed all incorrect Macaca links using "What links here." Ultimately, however, the Macaca (slur) article should be moved to Macaca. I will request the move shortly and have other wikipedia editors put it to a vote. --The Fat Man Who Never Came Back 17:01, 5 January 2007 (UTC)
- Regardless, it was inappropriate to make it a 180 degree redirect. If you are going to change it, make it a disambiguation page. Otherwise, leave it as it is. - UtherSRG (talk) 15:00, 5 January 2007 (UTC)
- This is not my opinion but an easily inferred fact. UtherUSG, the fact that Macaca article did not inappropriately redirect to the macaque article until after the George Allen scandal is not a coincidence. No one cared about the word, no one began searching for it until after the incident. Do not attempt to argue that the vast majority of those searching for the word are not looking for information about George Allen and the slur. If you are as savvy with a crystal ball as you claim to be, come back in 5 years and then redirect the page.--The Fat Man Who Never Came Back 14:52, 5 January 2007 (UTC)
- That was inappropriate. Just because *you* think that no one would be looking for the monkey, doesn't make it so. Five years from now, no one will remember the slur, but the monkey will still be around. I've reverted. If you want to make a change, make this a disambiguation page. - UtherSRG (talk) 14:45, 5 January 2007 (UTC)
