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I changed "now outdated M109" to just M109. Just because one new weapon is superior to the paladin doesn't make it completley outdated- Moshe Constantine Hassan Al-Silverburg 07:17, 26 October 2005 (UTC)

1 Article name
2 Recent Israeli use
3 Abbreviations
4 M109A6 not exclusive to US?
5 Crew amount

[edit] Article name

This article is about the history of the M109 self-propelled howitzer. Only the M109A6 carries the name "Paladin" and I think personally that the article should be changed to M109 or M109 self-propelled howitzer. -- Thatguy96 16:48, 15 May 2006

I agree completely. I've gone ahead and made the move; I can't see any logical objection. TomTheHand 20:56, 15 May 2006 (UTC)

Please also change the redirects to the new article name - you seem to have forgotten this. (See What links here)--Denniss 21:16, 15 May 2006 (UTC)

I'll see if I can tackle that tomorrow if I have time and nobody else has the will. M109 howitzer has far more links than M109 Paladin anyway; we're in a better place redirect-wise after this move even without a single fix ;-) TomTheHand 02:19, 16 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Recent Israeli use

There should be something in this article about the recent use of this weapons system by the IDF in the 2006 Israel-Lebanon crisis, as it seems they are currently being used on-mass to Bombard southern Lebanon.--Hibernian 02:54, 17 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Abbreviations

What is an FDC? —Brim 02:39, 27 July 2006 (UTC)

Never mind. I answered my own question. —Brim 03:08, 27 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] M109A6 not exclusive to US?

"It has been continually upgraded and improved to today's current version, the M109A6 "Paladin" which is only used by the US Army."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Military_of_the_Republic_of_China states that "delivery of M109A6 units started in 2003"

I'm wondering which one is right. -- MiG 15:39, 20 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Crew amount

Info box states a crew of eight: chief, driver, 3 cannoneers, 3 gunners.

The text says The crew of the M109 consists of a section chief, driver, three cannoneers who prepare the ammunition, load, and fire the weapon, and two gunners who aim the cannon.The gunner aims the cannon left or right (deflection), the assistant gunner aims the cannon up and down (quadrant). The M109A6 Paladin needs only one cannoneer and two ammunition handlers for a total crew of six.

The first statement talks about two gunners, and the mention about the upgraded Paladin is really talking about five crew members: chief, driver, cannoneer and two ammunition handlers. Which one of these three is the right statement?

The crew size for the M109A6 is incorrect. The crew consists of one chief of section, one driver, one gunner, and a fourth cannoneer commonly referred to as the "number one man." —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.245.98.88 (talk) 02:58, 26 February 2008 (UTC)