Talk:Lyudmila Pavlichenko

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Text was taken from a "Wikiverse" article wioth it's contents released under the GFDL

Contents 1 March 8 edits 2 Update 3 Copyright violation? 4 Nina numbers? 5 Fair use rationale for Image:Pav-1976-stamp.jpg 6 This her? 7 A song by Woody Guthrie

[edit] March 8 edits

First of all, let me thank a lot the author of the article on such an important and interesting topic.

I've cleaned the text a bit. Changed first name and patronymic according to Ukrainian language. Despite further career, Bila Tserkva and Kyiv were predominantly Ukrainian-speaking in1930s-1940s. Last name is spelled the same in both.

Authors of the article, please clarify the birth date 1916-07-12: was it a July 12, or December 7? Correct if needed. You know, I study English since my 7, but still can't get used to year-month-date. If the author is ex-Soviet, he may not either.

Removed excessive details

Somebody please check the links, categories and "see also" section - I'm no expert in sniping.

BTW:

• could somebody present this article for some selected anniversaries (as she was the greatest female sniper)?
• did anybody dig the issue of the "female mercenary snipers" in Chechen war? It is one of the favourite concepts of Russian propaganda there - but nobody seems to have seen any such sniperess (dead or captured).

Best wishes, AlexPU

[edit] Update

I added a picture and moved the article. Lyudmila Pavlichenko recived more hits on Google than the other name, which would indicate that the current name is the correct one. :) --Kross 00:05, Apr 23, 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Copyright violation?

Looks suspiciously like http://www.soviet-awards.com/digest/pavlichenko/pavlichenko1.htm where it is attributed to Henry Sakaida... JidGom June 29, 2005 12:18 (UTC)

As long as the wording is not exactly the same, the article should not be a copyright violation. The facts are in the public domain many of which were obtained from original Soviet publications and documents in the case of both articles.

BobW

[edit] Nina numbers?

This article claims that Pavlichenko had 309 kills, Nina's article claims the same number.... both claim that each one was the gratest fimale sniper ever... this is a contradiction between articles. Sitenl 00:14, 16 December 2005 (UTC)

I've removed that phrase as it sounds suspisciously PoV. 68.39.174.238 14:57, 16 December 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Fair use rationale for Image:Pav-1976-stamp.jpg

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[edit] This her?

Found it on 4chan, I don't know where image credit goes --Pewpewlazers 20:39, 2 September 2007 (UTC)

Image:Lyudmila Pavlichenko.jpg

• I doubt it. The rifle is not of her favorite type. Kulikovsky 05:06, 5 September 2007 (UTC)
• I'd have to agree it doesn't look like her, Pavlichenko was definitely not light-haired, and she was never awarded an Order of Glory - so whoever that sniper is, it's definitely not Pavlichenko. Sherurcij ^{(Speaker for the Dead)} 05:18, 5 September 2007 (UTC)
  • In fact, the same image currently appears as (allegedly?) being Roza Shanina, which would at least fit with the medal she's wearing. So that settles that. :) Sherurcij ^{(Speaker for the Dead)} 05:20, 5 September 2007 (UTC)

[edit] A song by Woody Guthrie

Woody had a song called "Miss Pavlichenko". If it is worth mentioning, the fact may be added to the article. CopperKettle (talk) 03:54, 8 June 2008 (UTC)