Talk:Lysander Spooner
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[edit] Libertarian v. Socialist
Today, Spooner is paradoxically a hero to libertarians (in the American sense), anarchists and socialists. This seems contradictory but is it really? American libertarianism has a lot in common with anarchism and one tendency of it even calls itself "anarcho-capitalism." Further, in the 19th Centuray, the divide between socialism and we today call libertarianism was not as great and there was a great deal of overlap.
I consider myself a libertarian and have a cousin who is essentially a Marxist. She was surprised when I mentioned Lysander Spooner in conversation on day because she thinks of him as a socialist. I think of him as a libertarian. We are both right. --Amcalabrese 18:12, 6 September 2007 (UTC)
- Well that's speculation. If he called himself a socialist then there should be a reference out there that says so. Socialism as we normally understand it calls for common ownership of the means of production. So it's a strange claim that needs a reference if it's true. Operation Spooner 18:47, 6 September 2007 (UTC)
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- I will track down a cite tonight if you wish. But the point is that what we undertsand as "socialism" today is not quite the same as what socialism was in 19th Century. Spooner was against the concentration of power, be it in government or large corporations. Hence, he looks like an anarchical socialist. Yet, he also started a company to compete against a government monopoly -- not the actions of a 21st Century socialist. In reality he was an anarchist and someone who opposed enforced collectivism. So to our modern sensibilities he is properly termed a libertarian. But to 19th Century sensibilities, he also was a socialist.--Amcalabrese 14:49, 7 September 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Citation Needed (Citation Needed)
I'm wondering if somebody (citation needed) could add in a few more (citation needed) tags as some parts (citation needed) of this article are quite sparse and are thus almost readable(citation needed). Some argue that Wikipedians like adding (citation needed) tags to articles (citation needed) but it makes the reading experience extremely disjointed (citation needed) as every few words the sentence is (citation needed) interrupted by (citation needed).
Additionally, many of the points where somebody seems to think a (citation) is (needed) seem unduly trivial (citation needed). —Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.71.30.178 (talk) 00:16, 7 September 2007 (UTC)
[edit] References
After adding a couple of references, I couldn't find anything else that looked like it needed authority, so I took the liberty of removing the "references needed". Somebody lemeno if this is not the right way to do this. Fitzaubrey 07:13, 13 September 2007 (UTC)
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