Talk:Lynn Westmoreland
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[edit] Interview on Colbert Report
I didn't delete the section because it wasn't verifiable or POV. I deleted it because it is pointless. Do we need a transciption of the interview including word for word (including the uhs and ums) each commandment he could remember? Do we also need to know Colbert asked him if he could think of any better place to put the commandments? And then his reponse? How are these tiny useless detailed relevant? I have fixed the article again. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 141.211.4.18 (talk • contribs) at 8:51, 17 June 2006
Westmoreland named three commandments, not four. Other than that, I agree with the edit. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.78.140.226 (talk • contribs) at 11:13, 17 June 2006
No, it is absolutly relevant that he couldn't name the very same commandments he wanted to display publicly. It goes beyond a mere gaffe and bespeaks of his interest in rallying conservative voters over an issue he himself didn't know but sought political gain from. That would be like a professor testing students on a subject she doesn't know well or a pastor who doesn't practice what he preaches. I've added the incident and transcript. philosopher2king 2/17/08
Question: The text states that Westmoreland is one of two congressmen not to introduce any legislation, but isn't the bill to display the ten commandments technically some kind of legislation? It's a bill right? —Preceding unsigned comment added by PeterGryphon (talk • contribs) at 10:56, 6 August 2006
During the Colbert interview Westmoreland says he has not introduced any legislation. "Colbert: You have not introduced a single piece of legislation since you entered Congress. Westmoreland: That's correct." I guess co-sponsoring a bill is different then introducing it.--Skroha 01:39, 13 August 2006 (UTC)
A little off topic, but after a quick Google search I found this: “Co-Sponsor - A member or members that add his or her name formally in support of another members bill. In the House a member can become a co-sponsor of a bill at any point up to the time the last authorized committee considers it.” --Skroha 01:56, 13 August 2006 (UTC)
[edit] The assertion that the video was spliced
The article now states the following:
- Westmoreland's press secretary stated that Westmoreland actually got up to about seven of the Ten Commandments before petering out, but that the video was edited before it was shown on the Colbert Report.
Is there any external verification as to whether this is true or false? Has Colbert or anyone on his show commented on this?
If you watch the video at [1] carefully, it does look edited. Colbert is counting Westmoreland's commandments on his fingers, and he gets up to three. The camera cuts to Westmoreland, and when it returns to Colbert he isn't holding up fingers anymore. It's possible that Colbert dropped his hands quickly, but why would he do that when his counting on his fingers was part of the joke? OTOH, that's just my interpretation (in violation of WP:NOR), and I'm hoping something definitive has been said about this.
The clip is pretty famous now, so if it really was edited we shouldn't perpetuate the fraud on Wikipedia! — Lawrence King (talk) 09:27, 29 November 2006 (UTC)
I know this is a few years after your conversation took place but I've added the proper link verifying he got seven and not four of the commandments right (still pretty embarrassing since he co-sponsored that legislation but I'm not here to judge - I'll leave that to the Christian right! :P). Fair is fair. To whoever fixed my mishap while loading the new link: Thanks! 2/22/08 Philosopher2king. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Philosopher2king (talk • contribs) 03:10, 23 February 2008 (UTC)
According to CNN, Westmoreland names 3 commandments but got one wrong (so he named 2 commandments correctly). There is no cited source for Westmorland naming more than that, and so it should not be claimed in this wiki article that he names more than 2. See [2] If there is a good source for saying he got 7, then put it up. But as of now, there is no such source.
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BetacommandBot (talk) 09:23, 21 January 2008 (UTC)