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This article was nominated for deletion on 2007-02-08. The result of the discussion was No consensus.

This article was nominated for deletion on 2006-07-07. The result of the discussion was no consensus.

Contents 1 Comments 2 Cites? 3 South Africa 4 Irrelevant 5 This is not Lusophobia 6 Lusophobia in Luxembourg

[edit] Comments

• A phobia is supposed to be either irrational, unfair or based on fear.

If you consider Keating's criticism of Portugese colonialism as unfair, you would need to explain why.

Furthermore, criticising the establishment of Portugese as the official language of East Timor should not be regarded as irrational, unfair or based on fear. What is irrational and unfair is choosing a language spoken by barely 5% of the population as the official language.

Kransky 07:49, 2 February 2006 (UTC)

What is irrational and unfair are observations made on the basis of ignorance and ««prejudice. You ignore the fact that Tetum (the most widely spoken language in East Timor, spoken by 80%), which derives a large amount of its vocabulary from Portuguese, is also an official language. The recent, renewed,attacks on this (and Portugual's involvement in East Timor) by The Australian is a case in point. Quiensabe 23:52, 23 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Cites?

I think this article needs (more?) cites for the use of the term. The article spends time defining it but not much on who has used it or in what context. A term needs to be notable to be defined here. If cites cannot be provided, this material should be merged somewhere else. Perhaps to Lusitanic ?? ++Lar: t/c 19:47, 27 May 2006 (UTC)

««The term Lusophobia was often used to describe nationalist sentiments in Brazil in the nineteenth century, with Liberal politicians in Rio de Janeiro and Pernambuco advocating the reduction of Portuguese involvement in the Brazilian economy.1»»

Was it used any where else than in the nineteenth century? If not the rest of the article makes no sense.

Reply: Just read the rest of the lusophobia page. It does make sense, specially nowadays. Joao —Preceding unsigned comment added by 89.214.39.120 (talk) 17:25, 19 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] South Africa

I grew up in South Africa where the white community frequently made "Portuguese jokes" and used racial epithets, the most common being "porro". The essentially sterotype was that Portuguese people were somehow dirty, stupid and- in the case of men- sexually predatory. The women were often alleged to be unattractive. Is this something that can be developed in ths article or is it merely my first hand experience?

you need to document using good sources. Search for what others have written about what you have experienced. Benjiboi 21:37, 7 July 2007 (UTC)

Yeah and now "white" South Africans (with average 5-10% Hottentot/Malay admixture) are being killed and raped by the angry black Bantu natives in the thousands and EMIGRATING EN MASSE WITH THEIR TAILS BETWEEN THEIR LEGS. I guess being a Porra isn´t so bad after all. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 85.243.0.106 (talk) 14:27, 1 September 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Irrelevant

There is a lot of irrelevant information added to this page that has nothing to do with lusophobia. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 89.180.101.236 (talk) 21:11, 27 September 2007 (UTC)

I disagree. It not irrelevant. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 89.214.35.18 (talk) 14:50, 19 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] This is not Lusophobia

"A research study from 2003, which indicated that among the then 15 European Union countries, Portuguese people led the most sedentary lifestyles, prompted the BBC to describe Portugal as the "laziest nation in Europe", [10] although sedentarism and laziness are relatively different concepts."

If it is the British suffer from Anglophobia

British students are laziest in Europe, claims report [1]

Britons are the laziest fat cats of Europe [2]

Bosses choosing committed foreign workers over lazy British' [3]

I am erasing the entry. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 89.180.57.58 (talk) 14:20, 20 November 2007 (UTC)

Racism is not the same as lusophobia. I am erasing two items because it is out of context. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 89.181.42.11 (talk) 20:39, 23 November 2007 (UTC)

There are Portuguese blond and blue eyed, though a minority. In Portugal, there's also racism. Sometimes racism is thrown against blond people as well. There is racism everywhere. Joao —Preceding unsigned comment added by 89.214.39.120 (talk) 17:28, 19 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Lusophobia in Luxembourg

In might be worth researching and mentioning lusophobia still happening now in Luxembourg. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 143.167.25.226 (talk) 14:54, 8 April 2008 (UTC)