Talk:Luna Park Sydney

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[edit] Hopeful expansion and citation

Hopefully over the next few weeks I will be able to get my hands on the information needed to properly tune up this article. I'm just going to make a few things clear before I start, in the sense of fair play.

  1. Declared Interest: I am an employee at Luna Park Sydney, as an entry-level 'rides-monkey'. I will try and keep it NPOV, but I make absolutely no guarantees.
  2. Planned sources: The major source will be a large, detailed book on the history of Luna Park Sydney, on sale in the giftshop. I plan to back this up with information sourced from the historical indoctrination in my training manual, and brief information on specific sections of the park provided on "historical information boards" located throughout the park (How the frak am I going to cite these?)
  3. Images: I may take a small series of images displaying different sections of the park, although I will have to talk to my bosses. Use on Wikipedia may qualify as fair use under Luna Park's photography policy, but better safe than sorry.
  4. Planned expansion:
    • Flesh out the History section. A hell of a lot happened between 1979 and 2004, which could probably be better detailed than the current "opened and closed several times." line that makes up the entirety of these 25 years. Done. -- Saberwyn 09:25, 25 March 2006 (UTC)
    • Provide a list of the current rides, hopefully with wikilinks out to articles on each ride's type, and a little history if present and relevant. Done. -- Saberwyn 09:25, 25 March 2006 (UTC)
    • Write a section on the two Big Dipper rollercoasters, (at least the second of) which has seen a fair deal of controversy. I might even make this into an article, if I find enough information. Done. See Big Dipper (Australian roller coaster). -- Saberwyn 09:25, 25 March 2006 (UTC)

That's my plan and declarations, in black and white. Any comments or issues, either put them here, or on my talk page. -- Saberwyn 10:09, 23 February 2006 (UTC)


Done. Now what? -- Saberwyn 09:23, 25 March 2006 (UTC)
Looks really good! It's a huge improvement - well done!
Re "Now what?": Main thing that comes to mind maybe a few pictures? E.g. beg/borrow a digital camera, take pictures of each of the rides, and show them in a <gallery> somewhere in the article? -- All the best, Nickj (t) 03:31, 29 March 2006 (UTC)
Once a few odds and ends come together, I was going to get a small selection of piccies showing the Park layout (Face, Midway, Coney, Maloneys) and try to use more specific pictures for articles on the ride's type (ie Rotor (ride) and Wild Mouse roller coaster), wikilinking from the caption back here. -- Saberwyn 08:59, 29 March 2006 (UTC)
A great-looking article. Well done! Jeendan 05:36, 20 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Piccies

I've added a few here, and added a few more to articles on the ride types featured here (Rotor (ride) and Wild Mouse roller coaster at this point in time.

I plan to get an updated shot of the Face in the near future: they've made some temporary changes for the "Lunar Space Park" school-holiday carnival, as soon as the Face goes back to normal I'll go get snappy.

Is there anything anyone else wants (Historical pictures are going to be a royal arse to find, prepare, and include, but they can be tracked down by people not working at the Park with only a little effort) -- Saberwyn 13:06, 9 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] What is this ride called?

Hi, Can I please ask what this ride / game is called - the one shown in the foreground in this picture:

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The sign says "The wheel of joy", but it's a bit of a lame name, so hopefully that's not its real name.

It used to be called "King of the Castle" in the 1970's and early 1980's.

Whatever it is, it's tonnes of fun, and probably my favourite ride - just get on it with between 6 and 10 highly-competitive adult friends, and shove each other like all hell to be the last one left still on the spinning disc! ;-) -- All the best, Nickj (t) 00:42, 26 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Possible confusion

Harbourside Amusement Park opened in April 1982 (the change in name caused by a dispute between the current and previous owners, preventing use of the Luna Park name). The park ran until 1988. During this six year period, the Face was removed from the entry gates[...]

I read this to mean that the face was absent from 1982 to 1988, which surely isn't the case (or could my memories of at least a hundred visits to Luna Park during that period be so inaccurate? maybe!). Does anyone recall more specifically when the face was taken down, and for how long? Andoka 18:23, 26 December 2006 (UTC)

  • I've gone back over my sources, and yes, it was just a bad read. The line now reads "the Face was removed from the entry gates on two occasions..." Unfortunately, I don't have the specifics as to when. -- saberwyn 23:14, 26 December 2006 (UTC)

Thanks, that makes a lot more sense. One other thing that seem strange to me is the reference to the name Harbourside Amusement Park. Looking on the timeline at Luna Park's website, they do indeed say that was the name of the park from 82-88. What was the extent of the use of that name? The sign out the front said Luna Park, [hhttp://static.flickr.com/66/204614150_5155b6a06e_m.jpg this image] shows the scary 1980s face with Luna Park above it, and it was popularly known and referred to as Luna Park. The only online reference to the Harbourside name I can find is on that timeline. Was it only a business name, and not a trading name as such? The prize tickets awarded for throuing balls in the clown heads did say Harbourside Amusement, however. Does anyone have an reliable independent source to show that the park traded as Harbourside, or conversely advertised at the time as Luna Park? I'm looking but so far coming up empty. The official party line just seems misleading in this case. Andoka 11:33, 27 December 2006 (UTC)

Well, the official party line is all I have, Sorry. -- saberwyn 10:23, 29 December 2006 (UTC)
You will find that period is not really mentioned in the history of Luna Park, a lot of contravesry about who was involved...etc and the fallout of the Ghost Train incident made a lot of people angry about the park re-opening. --Mikecraig 22:30, 7 June 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Ghost Train

Considering the amount of material on the Ghost Train, particularly since the Saffron announcement, would it be worth splitting it out into an individual article... ie Ghost Train (Luna Park Sydney)?? -- saberwyn 06:58, 7 June 2007 (UTC)

Hmm interesting one...it is a "notable" event/tragedy. --Mikecraig 22:28, 7 June 2007 (UTC)
Seven people killed, park shut down immediately for several years, an inconclusive coronial inquiry, a Government inquiry into the coronial inquiry, hoohah over the memorial of the event, and in recent weeks the "revalation" that the mob did it... and all sourced. Can't see this faulting WP:N, and would serve well as a split-out subarticle, with the added advantage of tidying up the section the material is crrently contained in. -- saberwyn 05:47, 8 June 2007 (UTC)

[edit] FAC nomination

The article has been nominated for FAC by an IP address, who due to technical limitations is unable to proceed further with the process. I have attempted to contact the user responsible in order to find out what is going on, and will delete the FAC tag if there is no reply by Thursday 17 January. -- saberwyn 12:21, 13 January 2008 (UTC)

  • Thanks BuddingJournalist. -- saberwyn 08:35, 18 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Face photos

I've received a comment on my user page regarding the location of images of the previous faces: this is something that should be looked into in regards to expansion of the article. Any comments or suggestions on where such images may be legally (and preferrably freely) acquired from? -- saberwyn 03:32, 17 May 2008 (UTC)