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[edit] Leadership position tense makes me tense

"Luke now leads the New Jedi Order on Denon, the new capital of the Galactic Alliance."

Now leads? There is no 'now' in a fictional universe. --Saforrest 20:16, May 20, 2005 (UTC)

Uh...why not? Its just a figure of speech. --Kross 16:15, Jun 6, 2005 (UTC)
In a fictional universe, "now" usually refers to the last known event. I think it is correct here. --Sikon 11:35, 10 Jun 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Wrong, wrong!

The picture of the Jedi Masters' spirits! Why can't you use one from the old versions of the film? I know we're stuck with the revised ones, but the old picture IS the correct one. Luke's father should look like an old man, not Luke's younger cousin. The meaning of the picture gets all wrong (The older, wiser Anakin who has come to terms with himself, learned from his mistakes and earned his redemption vs the young one who has learned nothing). It looks like all his years as Vader have been simply undone, (and, some might say, that he's now ready to start again up the same path...) which is so NOT TRUE. He has redeemed himself, not become younger, and retains his painful experiences, he is just able to view them in a new light. Also, it simply feels wrong that Luke should have a father who is younger than himself.

Also, if HE became younger, why not (for example) Obi-Wan when HE became a spirit? User:Custodes

The official reason for the change is that the spirit is reflecting the "light side" version of the character. Since Kenobi died fighting for the side of good, he looks old, as opposed to Vader, who fell to the Dark Side as a young man; his spirit is then reverted to a young man. Like it or not, that's the rationale. EVula 14:39, 30 May 2006 (UTC)
Wasn't Young Anakin (from the haircut, it looks like the spirit's from around the time of Episode III) already sliding towards the Dark Side, right on the edge? The old Anakin, on the other hand, had left the Dark Side behind and embraced the light. He, too, died "fighting for the side of good". I can't see the logic in the change, but I guess we're stuck with it. User:Custodes
It should be the old Anakin, Lucasfilm messed up by putting the young Anakin in and they try to cover it up with senseless logic.Superstarwarsfan 16:37, 25 August 2006 (UTC)

ive heard that the force ghost takes the formof them at the peak of there power and because anakin had a power down when he lost his limbs...(if im wrong dont hate me)Hicups0002 17:34, 11 October 2006 (UTC)

I don't think so, Obi-Wan used to be much more powerfull twenty+ years before the movie so he should be young too if that were true Superstarwarsfan 18:16, 25 October 2006 (UTC)

The only why I can explain Anakin's manifestation as a young man im ROTJ was because that was how he last percieved himself before his horrific disfigurement. To explain better I'll refer to the Matrix. When Neo is in his first simulation after being freed in Matrix I, he has retured to how he appeared while in the Matrix because his simulated appearence is an extrapolation of his subconscience. Thus, Anakin spirit form has returned to it's youthfull form because that's how he subconsciously percieves himself. User:Hibbidyhai

Also he did not turned to the dark side of the force because that was anakin. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 209.129.62.2 (talk) 03:07, 29 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Luke's own lightsaber

I should point out that Luke had a different lightsaber in Episode VI instead of his father's lightsaber in Episode IV and V. Know that the Blue Lightsaber is actually Anakin's.

Do you agree that Luke *did* manage to create his own lightsaber prior to Episode VI?

In the EU, he tried between Episodes IV and V, but failed. The green ligntsaber in VI is the first one he built himself. --Sikon 11:43, 10 Jun 2005 (UTC)


[edit] Chosen One?

I may be wrong, but I think Anakin brought balance to the force when he killed the Jedi in Ep III. Palpatine + Vader = Yoda + Obi. Luke finished the Sith off with Anakin at the end. Am I interpreting this wrong?

I think you are absoulutly right. Thanks for sharing my thoughts!
Anakin brought balance to the force by killing all the Jedi on Star Wars episode III: Revenge of the Sith, and by killing Palpatine on Star Wars episode VI: Return of the Jedi.
Both sides, jedi and sith, have a prophecy of a "chosen one" who would bring balance to the force, but this has already been done before by the countless battles between the sith and the jedi. I think they both believe that by "balancing" the force the "choosen one" must totally defeat the other side. So in a way both Anakin and Luke brought balance as Luke helped Anakin in Ep. VI kill the Emperor and Darth Vader, who then becomes Anakin Skywalker again.
Lucas said that "bringing balance to the Force" meant exterminating followers of the Dark Side. Anakin fulfilled this prophecy by killing Palpatine and his own dark identity of Darth Vader. --Sikon 11:33, 10 Jun 2005 (UTC)
You are right on man, I totally agree with you. 07:13 January 25 2006 (UTC)

So the prophecy is true that Anakin was the chosen one since he was the one to kill the last Sith.66.160.55.133 22:21, 25 February 2006 (UTC)

That would be all well and good... if it weren't for Lumiya. I've long since come to the conclusion Lucas had no real idea of what the prophecy stuff was supposed to mean. --maru (talk) contribs 01:01, 26 February 2006 (UTC)

If you're going to bring up Shira (Lumiya), why not Lord Flint from the old Marvel run as well? Evidence in the comics book (can't remember the exact issue, sorry) seems to suggest that HE was the one intended to become the next Dark Lord of the Sith in case Skywalker would not. For one thing, it's his official title. That's what you get when you mix up the old and new run. In my book, the old Marvel comics shouldn't be part of the current continuity, that leaves far too many glitches and errors.

All that aside, the idea that "bringing balance to the Force" meant breaking it down to roughly equal shares of Light and Darkness seems plausible. But then of course, with all the other Darksiders around (Dark Jedi, Sovereign Protectors, Adepts...), that would have skewed the balance the other way around... Custodes


Anyone think that... maybe the jedis were wrong and the prophecy has yet to come to a full pass? It could still be set in motion, I mean, directors and writers like to throw people off.

[edit] Age

I thought that Luke was 18 years old in Episode 4, but this site has him listed as 19 years old. Input anyone?

The Episode IV script does indeed say he's 18 years old, but since Episode III takes place in 19 BBY, and Episode IV in 0 BBY, we can just assume that he didn't hit his 19th birthday yet.
I believe he was 18 per the entire EU chronology. --Gateman1997 07:42, 5 August 2005 (UTC)

NO HE WAS 20 YEARS OLD IDIOTS —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.143.44.99 (talk) 14:30, 30 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Did Vader comment about Luke's Lightsaber?

I realized that before Vader took Luke to the Death Star II before the emperor, that Vader commented something about Luke, and realized that it wasn't the same lightsaber he used when they first met. I think that the quote "Your skills are complete" should've been added because Vader realized that Luke passed the Lightsaber Creation trial.

Vader also mentions how Luke's lightsaber has better balance than Anakin's lightsaber. Does this mean Luke was as strong or stronger in the force than Anakin Skywalker??? 07:28 January 25 2006 (UTC)

Possibly. It could also simply means Luke's better at crafting weapons than Vader. --maru (talk) contribs 04:12, 26 January 2006 (UTC)
I don't recall the line about Luke's saber being better constructed, do you have a quote? Optimus Sledge 23:19, 18 March 2006 (UTC) 23:19, 18 March 2006 (UTC)
RotJ, on Endor, conversation between Vader and Luke. He comments on the new saber; I can't remember what exactly was said, but that's the conversation. EVula 20:25, 28 March 2006 (UTC)

The Imperial Officer escorting Luke hands the Lightsaber to Vader:

"He was armed only with this."

Vader takes it, and during the conversation between himself and Luke, Luke turns his back to Vader at which point Vader activates the lightsaber and says:

"I see you have constructed a new lightsaber."

Right now I can't recall which line he says, which is either:

"Your skills are complete."

or

Indeed you are as powerful as the Emperor has foreseen."

It's incredibly likely that he notices that Luke's new lightsaber is identical to Obi Wan's, and is obviously not Vader's original; which Luke used against his father during their battle in Empire Strikes Back.

I also remember that in the commentaries/extra materials for RotS, that Lucas talks about the lightsabers, noting that Obi Wan's is made to resemble Luke's from RotJ, because Luke would have constructed his own lightsaber based on designs he found in Obi Wan's home. TotalTommyTerror 19:37, 8 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] The must be a better picture...

Can't we at least get one that shows his face better?! --Anon.

What picture are you talking about, the one at the top of the page? --Scorpionman 7 July 2005 11:59 (UTC)

Probably. Whenever I see it I wince. Why not something with him closer to being a Jedi?--OctoberOmicron 23:55, 6 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Question

Shouldn't it be mentioned that in Luke's final duel with Darth Vader, Luke cuts off Vader's right hand? This could easily be conceived as revenge for when Vader did it in The Empire Strikes Back and the example of his deepest fall into the Dark Side. --Anon.

No. For both Luke and Vader, the right hand was cut because that was the hand the lightsaber was in; if either had been left handed, it would have been the left hand that was cut. It wasn't revenge, it was simple fighting strategy. EVula 20:27, 28 March 2006 (UTC)

Oh, come on! Vader wasn't fighting back, he wasn't even defending himself! There was no cause to cut of his hand except for revenge (or possibly pure malice, which I don't think should be attributed to Luke). Vader was already beaten at that point. Custodes

I always figured it was just "SLICE! Now we're even."

Luke cut off Vader's hand for revenge, then realized what he did and regretted it.Superstarwarsfan 16:40, 25 August 2006 (UTC)

Vader WAS defending himself. His saber was held in a defensive position, and Luke repeatedly struck at it out of rage. He eventually missed and hit Vader's wrist. His revenge, had Luke fully succumbed to the dark side, would be to kill him, not cut off his hand. Prometheus-X303- 22:35, 25 February 2007 (UTC)

I wouldn't say 'revenge' so much as pure rage. TotalTommyTerror 19:39, 8 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Family

Why is this list so long? Shouldn't it be kept to a minimum or at least a moderate list, instead of every single relative he has? I think a section like this only needs close family like his parents, sister, son, wife, uncles/aunts etc. (--212.139.199.85)

I disagree 100%, where else are you going to find out this information?Superstarwarsfan 16:41, 25 August 2006 (UTC)
A Star Wars-centric Wiki? 69.64.10.249 16:49, 18 June 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Space freighter?

I could have sworn that Luke's quote from IV was that his father was a navigator on a "spice freighter," not a space freighter. Am I wrong? -- me

Actually, his father was an evil Dark Lord, servant to a tyrannical Emperor. But yes, I believe it was spice.--Codenamecuckoo 08:36, 11 March 2006 (UTC)
A navigator on a spice freighter? That's what his uncle told him. His uncle didn't hold with his father's ideas; thought he should have stayed on Tatooine and not gotten involved. ;) The Wookieepedian 22:01, 11 March 2006 (UTC)
That was also my recollection. A quick check of the script (Revised Fourth Draft, January 15, 1976 [1] or [2]) reveals that we are remembering correctly:
LUKE: No, my father didn't fight in the wars. He was a navigator on a spice freighter. (emph. mine)
I'll make the appropriate change in the article. --Allan McInnes (talk) 18:49, 29 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] RfC/poll – Darth Vader/Anakin Skywalker: one article or two?

So, who's his daddy? What do you think? E Pluribus Anthony 19:35, 7 December 2005 (UTC)

I think Darth Plageuis was Anakin's father, not Darth Sidious. 07:04 January 25 2006 (UTC)
Father? Darth Plageuis and Darth Sidious were not even related to Anakin Skywalker, stupid. Anakin's real father is unknown, but, his stepfather was Cleigg Lars, you stupid loser. Weirdy 02:39, 24 April 2006 (UTC).
No personal attacks. The exact relation of Anakin Sr. to Plagueis and Sidious is unclear. --maru (talk) contribs 03:04, 24 April 2006 (UTC)

I believe Anakin is the Son of the Force since he was concieved by the will of the Force itself. This can make Luke as the Grandson of the Force. Leader Vladimir

Anakin was conceived out of nothing, like Jesus. Yet another parallel to the "Messiah"-ish ideas Lucas had about first Luke and then Anakin.

Going back on topic I think they should be one article, they are one person. Superstarwarsfan 16:42, 25 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Luke's Force Strength, Who do you think is Stronger????

I was just wondering, is there any reading material that states Luke's Force strength. I mean, does he have the Force strength of Palpatine or greater. My belief is that Luke was stronger in the Force than Palpatine. 06:37 Janurary 25 2006 (UTC)

No i believe palapatine was stronger at the time. (if only i could spell palpatine...)
I meant in general, not at the time of Return of the Jedi. 05:50 January 30 2006 (UTC)

Luke Skywalker in episode vi,Its a possibility that he could have gotten stronger by doing extra training,or near the end of the episode where the sith says,"I can feel your anger,take your weapon strike me down with all of your hatred and your journey to the dark side will be complete"!!

Also,Darth Vader said that he would turn his sister Leia to the dark side.This made Luke mad ,he showed no mercy.This is probably why he was so strong because of hatred.For Twice Palptine .... is right.

Shouldn't Anakin have been stronger in the Force than Luke, since he was a son of the Living Force itself? Wasn't that holy bloodline diluted when Anakin married a non-Force-sensitive? Or does Force sensitivity grow stronger with the generations?

For another thing, where does Force sensitivity come from? Is it genetical? A mutation? Where did it come from originally? Custodes

Luke became stronger then Vader in the EU because Vader had lost alot of medi-clorians when he was burned on Mustafar. (They explain this in that book that takes place right after episoide III, it's called Rise Lord Vader of something like that) in episode six, however, Luke was still learning so Vader was stronger. Superstarwarsfan 16:46, 25 August 2006 (UTC)

Ok as being a dark lord of the sith myself(lol) ill clear up a few things. Anikin In his original form could have become twice as powerful in the force then palpatine. But in his fight with obi-wan, He was confused, unsure how to adapt to his new powers(as seen in the scene when he was crying after he killed the sepertist leaders.)It threw him off after what he had done to pademae(cause he still had not completly fell to the darkside) So when he was fighting obi-wan he was only using about 2/3 of his full power at the time. After his tradgic defeat, he lost alot of his midiclorians which cut off alot of his conection with the force. so, instead of becoming twice as poweful as the emporer(which he said to yoda in EpisodeIII "Darht Vader will become stronger then the both of us" Some say he menat the both of us combined,still unsure.) He only could reach about 80% of what the the emperor could. Now luke on the other hand repersnets the power of what anikan could of been. He has the potential to become as strong or if not even stronger then what anikan could of been. Also it should be noted the lukes nephew Jacen Solo May even become more powerful then luke and even evuntully kill luke if jacen fully falls to the dark side andf becomes the new "Dark lord of the sith"[ Added by user sirbizzy]

In the EU (Like the New Jedi Order timeline) Luke Skywalker is ridiculously strong. Stronger then anything Anakin or Palpatine has ever shown. But that's just going by the EU, which I don't put much stock in. Since some of them tend to get WAY too carried away. Abalu 05:00, 22 May 2007 (UTC)Abalu

[edit] Undecipherable sentence

Under "Learning the ways of the Jedi" I find the following:

It can be said that the old Jedi Master pretends to have little confidence in the young man's potential, (which is the very reason the Skywalker babies were hidden and Luke especially to be raised by his family presumably also to escape the Jedi rhetoric that doomed the Order) but is persuaded to train him.

I am incapable of understanding what it means. Could anyone decipher/clarify/simplify this passage, please? McDutchie 02:23, 19 March 2006 (UTC)

I have to agree. I have absolutely no idea what has been written in the parenthesis. Can someone please reword this phrase?
It sounds like they mean the reason the Skywalkers were hid was because Yoda didn't trust them, and then adds that it MIGHT have been to keep them ALIVE. It makes no sense. 70.105.109.83 14:57, 14 April 2006 (UTC)

I'm taking it that this is saying the Skywalker children were hidden because of the sort of attitude ("Jedi rhetoric") the Jedi took towards certain (or maybe all) new "recruits." As exemplified by Yoda pretending to have little confidence in Luke or another good example would be the way Mace (and Yoda in Episode I) seemed to have something against Anakin and took advantage of any opportunity to let Anakin know that.--OctoberOmicron 23:49, 6 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Norse legend

Given Lucas's extreme interest in religious and mythical traditions, I would wager that the similarity to the Norse god "Loki Sky-Walker" is intentional. If anyone has solid proof of that, please contribute. - IstvanWolf 07:10, 15 April 2006 (UTC)

Unlikely, since he was originally supposed to be named Luke Starkiller. But who knows? Lucas may have changed the name for that very reason. But would he have named his hero after an evil Norse god? Custodes

I'm not sure, but it sounds possible. Superstarwarsfan 16:47, 25 August 2006 (UTC)

I remember (90% sure I heard Lucas say it himself or maybe in some article here) hearing that Luke Skywalker came from the name Lucas. Pronounce Luke S. and you get Lucas. Would have worked out the same way if the last name had remained StarKiller--OctoberOmicron 23:57, 6 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Removed deleted image(s)

Just a note to say that I have removed some [or an] image[s] from the page beacuse they were speediable under either:

Category:Images with no fair use rationale
Category:Images with no copyright tag
Category:Images with no source

Or similar category. Kilo-Lima|(talk) 16:16, 16 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Citations

Information from the movies, the novels and even games seem to be all mixed up here. There is no way for the reader to work out what bits of Luke's life come from what works. Citations would help that. DJ Clayworth 16:45, 30 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Luke's Height

I'm just wondering, but is the IMDB right about Mark Hamill's height? They list it as 5'9" Unless they're wrong about that, shouldn't Luke's height be the same? 67.71.141.103 15:25, 10 August 2006 (UTC)

Quoting from the footnote on Luke's height that appears in the article:
There is some debate over Luke's height. The official Lucasfilm Star Wars Databank entry for Luke Skywalker (accessed 2005-05-05) lists Luke's height as 1.72m. However, IMDB's Biography for Mark Hamill (accessed 2005-05-05) gives Mark Hamill's height as 1.75m (5' 9"). Estimates in Mark Hamill's entry at CelebHeights.com (accessed 2005-05-09) range between 5' 6" and 5' 8".
Right now the article gives Luke's official height - i.e. the one that Lucasfilm promulgates. That footnote points out that this official height is inconsistent with IMDB's (unsourced) height for Mark Hamill. Since the article is about "Luke Skywalker" the fictional person (not "Luke, as portrayed by Mark Hamill"), I think that the current approach is the right one to take. But if you have some idea for how we might handle this in a better way, I'd be happy to hear it. --Allan McInnes (talk) 17:40, 10 August 2006 (UTC)

Okay, I didn't see that for some reason. I guess sometimes it's easy to forget that the IMDB profiles are unsourced, and it's a mistake to just take as gospel something from one of those profiles. You're right, though - Hamill's own height is irrelevant, what matters is the character's official height. 70.49.242.100 19:55, 11 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Rank

Is Commander the highest rank Luke achieved in canon? Thedoorhinge 00:51, 14 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] What

Luke's dead??? Since when? And who is Jabba Hut Skywalker?-SSJ Gokan 17:04, 10 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Luke is no more huh....

So Luke is gone..... well... I guess it was going to happen sooner or later.

We'll miss Luke...


WHAT!?!?!?!?! WHEN DID THIS HAPPEN! TELL ME THE BOOK TITLE! (Just don't tell me how it happended) Superstarwarsfan 18:19, 25 October 2006 (UTC)

It has not been confirmed how he died....or if even if he did....we'll certainly miss him though.-SSJ Gokan 02:07, 21 November 2006 (UTC)


  • So.... it seems that he's not dead.... right??? But he did then... so be it...


OK, so in what book did it almost happen? Superstarwarsfan 01:08, 14 December 2006 (UTC)


  • I think it was Bloodlines.


  • I don't know, but it wasn't Bloodlines. (The only hint I've seen of Lukes' death was when he appears to Cade Skywalker as a Force-ghost in the Legacy comics.)

Well, eventually he would have to die. By the time of the Legay of the Force comic books, Luke had died, apparently so has his son Ben. Does it ever say how far removed the Skywalker of this series are from Luke and Ben?

[edit] Vandalism?

Anyone know why the words "Luke Skywalker is cool" are highlighted in orange in the little factbox? (No username, 23rd December 2006, 17:40 GMT) —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 81.145.240.116 (talk) 17:40, 23 December 2006 (UTC).

[edit] Luke and Leia weren't meant to be brothers and sisters?

I've heard lots of hearsay about the fact that when the first movie was made, Luke and Leia weren't meant to be related which is makes pictures such as this one make more sense. Is there any factual basis for this, or is it all conjecture? 68.1.177.143 05:31, 13 February 2007 (UTC)

Luke Skywalker was once Luke Starkiller, he also once a midget. There were lots of weird ideas I'm glad didn't make itinto the movies. User:Hibbidyhai

[edit] Defeated Palpatine?

and with help from Leia and her unborn children defeated Palpatine.

Shouldn't that be "defeated a resurrected Palpatine"? Prometheus-X303- 13:56, 17 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Prince Luke Skywalker

IF Leia is a Princess, then Luke is a Prince. I know that Queen Amidala gave birth to her two children (Luke and Leia) before she died, thusly making them a Prince and Princess of Naboo. Since Leia was adopted by a Queen after her mothers death, she was raised as a Princess, while Luke was not raised to the rank of Prince, which is sad, because since his mother WAS a Queen, that makes him a Prince.Princess Elisabeth Vantar 18:37, 25 February 2007 (UTC)

Leia is (was) princess of Alderaan, not Naboo. Prometheus-X303- 22:11, 25 February 2007 (UTC)

Also, the Queen of Naboo is an elected position, not a hereditary one. By the time of Episode 2-3 Padme' is now a Senator and there is a new Queen. User: Hibbidyhai

This is the type of discussion that belongs on a fan site, not here —Preceding unsigned comment added by Superstarwarsfan (talk • contribs) 01:34, 27 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Story Citations

Can somebody with knowledge about the subjects reference the stories/novel arcs where the current Skywalker events are happening in?

Such as his recent disturbing visions. It would be of interest (esp. to me) to know what serials these events are happening in.

Like mentioning that certain events happen in the New Jedi Order series of books, definitely of interest to anybody that wants to read more on the subject. TotalTommyTerror 19:44, 8 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Luke

Has it been explained how he dies yet?-SSJ Gokan 18:09, 9 March 2007 (UTC)

No, because he hasn't died yet. Arwen undomiel 22:14, 23 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] R2-D2 and C-3PO

Why are their names spelled out phonetically in the article rather than the way they were listed in the credits of the movies, with numbers and letter? Are we presumed to be unable to pronounce numbers and letters? Edison 01:35, 24 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Infobox

Shoulnd't Luke's infobox be blue since the Rebel Alliance doesn't technically exist anymore? I think I might change this, but if I'm wrong, and it should still be orange, please correct it. Arwen undomiel 22:14, 23 April 2007 (UTC)

Since they keep revisiting the same eras in other media (books, video games, board games, RolePlaying Games, etc), you're arguing linear progression on something that is most definitely not linear. The Rebel Alliance exists, was replaced by the New Republic, or hasn't come into existance yet depending on the property in question, not a single definative moment.69.64.10.249 16:54, 18 June 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Unreferenced

This article needs more references describing real world impact. I would advise taking a look at Harry Potter (character) for ideas. --Eyrian 20:01, 23 August 2007 (UTC)

WP:VER states:

Do not leave unsourced information in articles for too long, or at all in the case of information about living persons. As Jimmy Wales has put it:

I can NOT emphasize this enough. There seems to be a terrible bias among some editors that some sort of random speculative 'I heard it somewhere' pseudo information is to be tagged with a 'needs a cite' tag. Wrong. It should be removed, aggressively, unless it can be sourced. This is true of all information, but it is particularly true of negative information about living persons.

–Jimmy Wales [1]

I Can't believe this article is unreferenced. Somebody do a quick google search and get some refs!- -[The Spooky One] | [t c r] 04:15, 26 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] In-universe

Anyone seriously interested in improving the article should consider adding some real world related info, e.g. regarding the concept, creation, and/or function of the character within the Star Wars narrative etc. Please consult our writing about fiction guideline, which also includes a list of exemplary articles.

There are currently three featured articles on Star Wars characters: Palpatine, Padmé Amidala, and Jabba the Hutt. What sets them aside from most of the other SW character articles is the effort to write from the real world perspective. Pay particular attention to paragraphs like Jabba the Hutt#Concept and creation, Palpatine#Concept and creation, and Padmé Amidala#Characterization.

Also take a look at Darth Vader, which despite its lack of reliable, published third-party secondary sources features interesting sections on e.g. #Character creation and concepts and Darth Vader as a #Cultural figure.

Even though reliable sources may be tough to come up with, any effort to introduce coherently written real world aspects will be greatly appreciated, because it contributes to the depth of the article and accurate coverage of the topic, and thereby makes for an improved reading experience and increases the encyclopedic value of the article.

—AldeBaer 16:00, 7 September 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Strange Search result

Searching for Luke Skywalker on Google,I got a link to this page, but the summary wasn't from this page, as far as I can tell.

Luke Skywalker - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia - 10:13am Luke is a fatass from the planet the planet shit that likes to eat his boyfriend anakin skywalker. he is a giant faggot Luke Skywalker is a fictional ... en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Luke_Skywalker - 100k - Cached - Similar pages - Note this

Any idea where this vandalism is coming from?

JoshEnglish (talk) 18:19, 22 March 2008 (UTC)