Talk:Luis Posada Carriles/Archive 2

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"terrorist" campaigns

Regardless of what I think regarding whether or not Posada is a terrorist, I think it's inappropriate for WP to use that word except under attribution (a campaign that Cuba calls terrorist), esp. not in the first sentence. For more on why, see Wikipedia:Words to avoid. DanKeshet 00:51, May 23, 2005 (UTC)

I too strongly oppose describing groups or individuals as terrorists in the editorial voice because it is a highly subjective matter. However, I think is is acceptable to label an act terrorism. Most people agree that blowing up an airplane or whatever is a terrorist act, whoever does it. This is the approach we've used in Shining Path for example. -- Viajero | Talk 09:14, 23 May 2005 (UTC)

I agree. So we should revert the Category reference here? Or is this change leading toward elimination of the category "terrorist"? DJ Silverfish 14:47, 23 May 2005 (UTC)

sigh... those damn categories. We just voted to get rid of Category:Terrorist organizations. Now we are voting on its subcategories which should have been deleted with the parent category. (see: Wikipedia:Categories_for_deletion/Log/2005_May_20, please vote). Category:Terrorists will have to be listed as well. -- Viajero | Talk 15:58, 23 May 2005 (UTC)

re: Is he a terrorist? American definition - "The calculated use of violence or threat of violence to attain goals that are political, religious or ideological in nature...through intimidation, coercion or instilling fear." British definition - "Terrorism is the use, or threat, of action which is violent, damaging or disrupting, and is intended to influence the government or intimidate the public and is for the purpose of advancing a political, religious or ideological cause." -- LamontCranston 13:06, 22 January 2006 (UTC)

The word "terrorist" describes a person's motive, not their action. Blowing up a plane full of civilians is not necessarily an act of terrorism. If Wikipedia is to be neutral, it can not call people terrorists. Someone who bombs something or someone is a bomber, not a terrorist. Someone who shoots up a convoy or car with a machine gun is a gunner. Someone who hijacks a plane and flies it into a building is a hijacker committing an attack. It doesn't pander to their cause, it doesn't aid or comfort them, it's just a statement of fact. Unless you can get inside someone's head and know *exactly* why they did what they did, "terrorism" is a guess. Dave420 04:24, 28 August 2006 (UTC)

Interesting Article

An interesting article was published today about Carriles, Bosch, and related topics. See: [1]

Ze miguel 09:27, 28 April 2006 (UTC)

Canada

As reported on CBC Evening News (nothing yet on their website), the US has sounded out Canada as a possible place to extradite Carriles, and were refused. Someone may want to add this to the article. --T. Mazzei 02:18, 19 October 2006 (UTC)